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tab62

« on: September 14, 2012, 12:59 »
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Hey MSGers,

The other day while uploading pics on one of the MS companies I noticed an elderly lady sticking a gun in her mouth- the title was something like "Time to End This"

I thought the MS companies would reject this type of photo? Just glad my 10 year daughter wasn't next to me when I was uploading pics to this company...



Wim

« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2012, 13:06 »
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Commercial value my friend, mother in law bday card  8)

velocicarpo

« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2012, 13:08 »
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Yeah, I saw this too. The concept of the image did not bother me but the quality and composition was really baaaaaaaaad....it should have been rejected.

« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2012, 13:19 »
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The other day while uploading pics on one of the MS companies I noticed an elderly lady sticking a gun in her mouth- the title was something like "Time to End This"

I thought the MS companies would reject this type of photo? Just glad my 10 year daughter wasn't next to me when I was uploading pics to this company...

Ah diddums. Maybe you should write to Istock and give them a list of subject matters that they should not accept because of your precious sensibilities? Maybe you should control what your daughter views rather than leaving that responsibility to Istock?

tab62

« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2012, 22:01 »
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It was deposit photos and the quality was poor! Plus her index finger wasn't even on the trigger thus iStock would reject it! I do like the mother-in- law bday card idea lol!

« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2012, 22:24 »
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What happened to freedom of speech?

CD123

« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2012, 00:02 »
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What happened to freedom of speech?
Not that I am against the photo in question (there might be a commercial use for it somewhere), but that happened to be what the publishers of the dying Princess Diana pictures also said.

I am pro "responsible" publishing of material (even freedom of speech need a good taste test by responsible people - although they might have "the right" to publish),
« Last Edit: September 15, 2012, 00:04 by CD123 »

« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2012, 00:58 »
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Hey MSGers,

The other day while uploading pics on one of the MS companies I noticed an elderly lady sticking a gun in her mouth- the title was something like "Time to End This"

I thought the MS companies would reject this type of photo? Just glad my 10 year daughter wasn't next to me when I was uploading pics to this company...

"...but you know what the funniest thing about Europe is? It's the little differences..."
It would never cross my mind (as well as mind of absolute majority of Europeans - I hope) that studio photograph of someone pretending suicide could be considered by anybody as offensive.

« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2012, 03:01 »
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It would never cross my mind (as well as mind of absolute majority of Europeans - I hope) that studio photograph of someone pretending suicide could be considered by anybody as offensive.


I haven't seen the photo (Is it worse than these http://depositphotos.com/search/suicide.html#st=0 ), but if it is a clearly staged studio photo I cannot understand why someone would consider this offensive... It might be an example of bad taste or low commercial value, but not "offensive". And yes, I'm from Europe :)

And you cannot protect your 10 year old daughter forever, I'm sure she'll soon start to understand that people do take their own lives in this cruel world.

but that happened to be what the publishers of the dying Princess Diana pictures also said.


How can you even compare a staged studio shot to a real persone dying?
« Last Edit: September 15, 2012, 03:05 by Perry »

CD123

« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2012, 03:24 »
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It would never cross my mind (as well as mind of absolute majority of Europeans - I hope) that studio photograph of someone pretending suicide could be considered by anybody as offensive.


I haven't seen the photo (Is it worse than these http://depositphotos.com/search/suicide.html#st=0 ), but if it is a clearly staged studio photo I cannot understand why someone would consider this offensive... It might be an example of bad taste or low commercial value, but not "offensive". And yes, I'm from Europe :)

And you cannot protect your 10 year old daughter forever, I'm sure she'll soon start to understand that people do take their own lives in this cruel world.

but that happened to be what the publishers of the dying Princess Diana pictures also said.


How can you even compare a staged studio shot to a real persone dying?


I was not comparing, I was referring to the statement about freedom of speech and how I think it should be managed in respect of "sensitive material".
« Last Edit: September 15, 2012, 03:26 by CD123 »

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2012, 07:11 »
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This thread reminded me of this photo:
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-2627838-child-violence.php?st=6ee2991
The tog burst onto iStock in a huge mass of enthusiasm on the forums.
I do remember that he posted that as a result of the above picture, he had an 'uncomfortable' time as the child had mentioned it to a teacher (presumably without any explanation about 'stock photography', who had contacted the police and he had the police at his door grilling him, about it.
But I can't find that thread from his profile page.
Anyone remember that discussion? The photo was uploaded in Dec 06, so presumably the discussion must have been just after that. That seemed to be his first upload, then he chose some 'safer' options, and faded out quite quickly after that.

BTW, I guess if the photo is really offensive, you can ask for it to have the 'adult content' filter put on it, though I'm not sure if it applies to anything other than sex.

« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2012, 08:31 »
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To bring it down to earth:
Suicides happen.
Media needs photos of suicides.
Photos are provided by photographers.

Its better the media choose a "homemade" stock photo, than a photo of the real thing.

I also have suicide photos in my port.
I really cant understand that anyone can be offended by a photo, or a drawing.
To take offence is something you choose, or let loose.
You can easily choose not to.

And offence taken because of moral reasons, is the route right to the inquisition.

And I hate that.

velocicarpo

« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2012, 08:52 »
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It would never cross my mind (as well as mind of absolute majority of Europeans - I hope) that studio photograph of someone pretending suicide could be considered by anybody as offensive.


I haven't seen the photo (Is it worse than these http://depositphotos.com/search/suicide.html#st=0 ), but if it is a clearly staged studio photo I cannot understand why someone would consider this offensive... It might be an example of bad taste or low commercial value, but not "offensive". And yes, I'm from Europe :)

And you cannot protect your 10 year old daughter forever, I'm sure she'll soon start to understand that people do take their own lives in this cruel world.

but that happened to be what the publishers of the dying Princess Diana pictures also said.


How can you even compare a staged studio shot to a real persone dying?


Exactly my thoughts...

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2012, 09:26 »
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The other day while uploading pics on one of the MS companies I noticed an elderly lady sticking a gun in her mouth- the title was something like "Time to End This"

I thought the MS companies would reject this type of photo? Just glad my 10 year daughter wasn't next to me when I was uploading pics to this company...

Ah diddums. Maybe you should write to Istock and give them a list of subject matters that they should not accept because of your precious sensibilities? Maybe you should control what your daughter views rather than leaving that responsibility to Istock?

Agreed. As clearly you have blocked her acccess to all news editorial sites, and don't let her see television news broadcasts or look at newspapers.

I do think that children should be protected, and each parent must decide where they want to draw the line, and at what age, as they have best knowledge of their own children.
Conversely, if you protect a child too much, they are going to have a very grim shock when they first encounter the harsh truths about life.

« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2012, 11:09 »
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Nobody can tell tab62 how to raise his/her child/children!

I used to work in the social field (home and youth educator - I don't know if this is the correct translation, anyway) and I can see that as a parent you want to protect your child.

However, pretending that this is a perfect world where everything is just fine and dandy isn't of much help for the kid's development either. Kids need to be confronted with difficult and sometimes confusing situations in order to let them learn how to process their feelings.

When my great-grand-parents died I was just 5 or 6 and my parents didn't make a big deal out of it and I was explained the whole thing as best as one could to a 5 year old. Sure it was quite abstract to comprehend the concept of death but I was well aware that they were gone from this place we all live in here on earth.

Death is part of life. It's very important to make children understand that. I've met people who try to avoid the topic about death at all costs because they've never really been confronted with deaths within their own family etc. This could lead to severe anxiety issues and behavioral problems.

Not that I want to advocate any borderline online resources that show explicit scenes of accidents and the likes where people pass away caught on video or images but I can say it sure opened my mind in terms of how much life is worth, how much more we need to pay attention in our daily lives to protect ourselves.

I have no intentions of showing my kid a video of someone committing suicide on video - hell no.

However, if my kid would give me a hard time buckling up in the back seat every time we drive I know that when I would show him or her a video of a kid being ejected from a crashing car that this would be the last instance having buckle-up issues.

This is life, real life, many people around us have seen accidents first hand with their own eyes. It wasn't their choice to be in that spot at a certain time but all the witnesses who go through such a disturbing scenario will deeply remember AND come to their own conclusions of how to try to prevent a situation for themselves that they have seen before.

Knowing is half the battle!

Sorry if I have offended anyone and I understand that not everyone (or not a lot of people) agree(s) with what I wrote but these are my 2 cents.

tab62

« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2012, 11:52 »
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thank you on the kids and parenting. Also my older sister and mom attempted suicide in their lives as well- both with overduse of sleeping meds. Thank God they told us when they took the pills and both were rushed to the hospital in time. Now they live very happy and successful lives and feel stupid in what they did...

« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2012, 12:09 »
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thank you on the kids and parenting. Also my older sister and mom attempted suicide in their lives as well- both with overduse of sleeping meds. Thank God they told us when they took the pills and both were rushed to the hospital in time. Now they live very happy and successful lives and feel stupid in what they did...
It's not the first time that I hear the suicide survivors now look at life from a completely different angle and understand the silliness of that "permanent solution" to a temporary problem.

It's good to hear they survived and turned their lives around! I'm happy for them and their families.

I also experienced a failed suicide attempt in my family but it didn't result in a re-evaluation of life, unfortunately. Tough to deal with, especially for the children and spouse.

Anywho, as long as the entire family is up to date about what happens I believe the children within the families feel much more involved and as a part of the family than trying to keep them away from such "bad news".

Best to you and your family.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2012, 12:11 by click_click »


CD123

« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2012, 14:42 »
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It would never cross my mind (as well as mind of absolute majority of Europeans - I hope) that studio photograph of someone pretending suicide could be considered by anybody as offensive.


I haven't seen the photo (Is it worse than these http://depositphotos.com/search/suicide.html#st=0 ), but if it is a clearly staged studio photo I cannot understand why someone would consider this offensive... It might be an example of bad taste or low commercial value, but not "offensive". And yes, I'm from Europe :)

And you cannot protect your 10 year old daughter forever, I'm sure she'll soon start to understand that people do take their own lives in this cruel world.

but that happened to be what the publishers of the dying Princess Diana pictures also said.


How can you even compare a staged studio shot to a real persone dying?


Exactly my thoughts...


Asked and answered......

CD123

« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2012, 14:47 »
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Nobody can tell tab62 how to raise his/her child/children!

I used to work in the social field (home and youth educator - I don't know if this is the correct translation, anyway) and I can see that as a parent you want to protect your child.

However, pretending that this is a perfect world where everything is just fine and dandy isn't of much help for the kid's development either. Kids need to be confronted with difficult and sometimes confusing situations in order to let them learn how to process their feelings.

When my great-grand-parents died I was just 5 or 6 and my parents didn't make a big deal out of it and I was explained the whole thing as best as one could to a 5 year old. Sure it was quite abstract to comprehend the concept of death but I was well aware that they were gone from this place we all live in here on earth.

Death is part of life. It's very important to make children understand that. I've met people who try to avoid the topic about death at all costs because they've never really been confronted with deaths within their own family etc. This could lead to severe anxiety issues and behavioral problems.

Not that I want to advocate any borderline online resources that show explicit scenes of accidents and the likes where people pass away caught on video or images but I can say it sure opened my mind in terms of how much life is worth, how much more we need to pay attention in our daily lives to protect ourselves.

I have no intentions of showing my kid a video of someone committing suicide on video - hell no.

However, if my kid would give me a hard time buckling up in the back seat every time we drive I know that when I would show him or her a video of a kid being ejected from a crashing car that this would be the last instance having buckle-up issues.

This is life, real life, many people around us have seen accidents first hand with their own eyes. It wasn't their choice to be in that spot at a certain time but all the witnesses who go through such a disturbing scenario will deeply remember AND come to their own conclusions of how to try to prevent a situation for themselves that they have seen before.

Knowing is half the battle!

Sorry if I have offended anyone and I understand that not everyone (or not a lot of people) agree(s) with what I wrote but these are my 2 cents.

+1 Always better to address this issues as and when it comes up and deal with it, than to try to protect so hard that your kid is never ready for what happens in real life.

I was highjacked with an AK47 in my face a few years back and had to train my (then) 5 year old boy thereafter not to try and resist if it happens while he is in the car and what to do. Not nice, but the reality of something that happens in my country every day.  :'(
« Last Edit: September 15, 2012, 14:52 by CD123 »

« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2012, 11:19 »
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One more thing: If that stock photo is like the worst thing a 10 year old could stumble upon while browsing internet, you must be very naive. The net is full of very, very bad and nasty stuff, much worse than some stock photo.



CD123

« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2012, 15:14 »
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I just answered my own question:

http://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photo-smoking-addiction-concept-child-puffing-cigar-image22044080

Here is one from the same series that was approved...go figure eh?

http://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photo-zombie-child-image20932870


To top it the reviewer refusing your picture might have approved one with a kid with a gun against his head....?  ::)


 

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