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Microstock Photography Forum - General => General Stock Discussion => Topic started by: Axel Lauer on April 30, 2014, 05:37
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Since that DP / Shotshop-scandal we had a look to agencies we had contact in the past and what shell i say - we found the next one you should have a very close look at.
www.photaki.com (http://www.photaki.com)
Although we cancelled our account in June 2013 they still sell our images.
And on top - they locked us out of our account
Here is the link to our port:
http://www.photaki.es/fotografo/rightlight (http://www.photaki.es/fotografo/rightlight)
The next "agency" you better should put under surveilance
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Incredible. That looks like plain robbery.
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Are the images just not empty shells? Can you get through the whole checkout and download the full res?
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We tried to buy them this morning and it was possible to put them into our shoppingcart.
Maybe you see empty shells right now because they started to delete them since we sent them a harsh mail and putted our lawyer into CC.
Oh Boy......
i can become so furios if i come across injustice , unfairness or stupidity that my temper might kill me one day.
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I was able to put Shotshop images in the shopping cart, but I couldnt pay for it. Maybe its the same here. they just let the thumbnails sit there.
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Are the images just not empty shells? Can you get through the whole checkout and download the full res?
Why are Alex images there and how do they have right to show them for free? You defend theives now?
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Maybe we should get a ranking on fair and unfair agencies. Afraid the list of unfair agencies is much longer :(
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happy to read at msg threads. i saw them in right side poll and thought about sell images there.
Now its done for me :)
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I'm having a bad experience with Photaki
I'm a contributor since 2011. I think my account was hacked or someone is using it without my permission changing my data and even my name in the invoice field
unfortunally I cannot modify the new (hacked) identity
Surname: echeverry
Name: orlando
?????
I'm trying to get in touch with Photaki support...still waiting for a Reply
hey Mister Pablo where are Thou
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Old thread alert!
I'm having a bad experience with Photaki
I'm a contributor since 2011. I think my account was hacked or someone is using it without my permission changing my data and even my name in the invoice field
unfortunally I cannot modify the new (hacked) identity
Surname: echeverry
Name: orlando
?????
I'm trying to get in touch with Photaki support...still waiting for a Reply
hey Mister Pablo where are Thou
Somehow I missed this thread and didn't knew about Photaki's scam behaviour!
Now I reached 50 euro and tried to request payment! Unfortunately I experienced the same as marcovarro! My name is permanently changed to:
Surname: echeverry
Name: orlando
Photaki didn't reply to my e-mails and now I'm sure they are stealing my money!!! >:(
Leaf, please remove Photaki from the list to prevent other contributors to upload there!
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Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I just discovered the founder of Photaki, Pablo Blanes, is also the founder of Freepik, which as I pointed out in another thread is a huge collection of copies of best-selling vectors offered for free, while it seems he makes money as a Shutterstock affiliate. It looks like they have an entire staff of people who just copy best-selling vectors. Not sure what Photaki is about...I just did a quick search here. Scott Braut is one of his "connections" on LinkedIn.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/pabloblanes (https://www.linkedin.com/in/pabloblanes)
https://www.facebook.com/Freepik/?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/Freepik/?fref=ts)
I'm confused, I must say. Does Shutterstock have a relationship with this person? Are they OK with him making almost exact copies of our work?
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Oh dear. Not good. Well at least I know to avoid photaki now too. Good catch.
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Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I just discovered the founder of Photaki, Pablo Blanes, is also the founder of Freepik, which as I pointed out in another thread is a huge collection of copies of best-selling vectors offered for free, while it seems he makes money as a Shutterstock affiliate. It looks like they have an entire staff of people who just copy best-selling vectors. Not sure what Photaki is about...I just did a quick search here. Scott Braut is one of his "connections" on LinkedIn.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/pabloblanes (https://www.linkedin.com/in/pabloblanes)
https://www.facebook.com/Freepik/?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/Freepik/?fref=ts)
I'm confused, I must say. Does Shutterstock have a relationship with this person? Are they OK with him making almost exact copies of our work?
OMG!!!!
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I demanded they take down a ripoff of one of my illustrations via their Facebook page. Their response:
"Freepik Hi Michele. We will delete this picture right now. Sorry for the inconveniences. We are investigating what has happened. For further information, please contact [email protected]"
So, illustrators, if you find your work there...and you will...I recommend a post on Facebook.
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Did you also point out that a member of their staff seems to have sat down with your SS portfolio in front of them and copied it image by image, sorted by "Popular"?
I am sure they were completely unaware of how their whole business model operates
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"Freepik Please write to [email protected] with all the information about that matter. We are very very sorry. We have designs from more than 100 designers all over the world. And they are supposed not to copy anybody's designs. The copyright is the most important thing to us. Please tell us what images are copied and we will remove them all."
I told them they need to take down the entire site.
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Hi everyone,
I am Luisa Mateos, Head of Marketing Communication at Freepik. I'm copying the message that I've posted in another thread:
Michele, first of all, we want to inform you that the images which you've indicated have been deactivated and we have taken actions against the person who has designed them.
Certainly the designer was inspired in your work and so we decided to take them off Freepik. We review each design and we always demand that the designs should be original, but in this case we have been deceived too.
I also would like to explain to all Freepik´s business model for you to understand where our revenues come from and what has happened with Shelma.
The site began as a search engine of free images and it used to take free images from the internet and it used to index them.
Then we started to produce our own content. For this we have a team of designers, from different locations around the world, who work with us creating exclusive resources.
Finally, we recently launched a system of contributors, where designers can upload their content and earn money for every download they get through their illustrations. In this case, the content is not exclusive of Freepik and each resource is credited to the author. As a result, this is a very beneficial system and all designers who work through this system are very satisfied with their earnings. Sometimes even earning more than in other stock websites.
The companies main earnings come from the advertisements we do with Shutterstock and Google Adsense, and of course with the premium plans we offer. With this premium plans, users can use the illustrations of Freepik without any attribution. (Our images are free, but you need to credit the author, whereas the premium subscribers can use them without any attribution).
As you can see, our business model of offering free images is unique compared to other companies business model and it is beneficial for both users and designers. We'd love to know your point of view regarding this and please do not hesistate in asking any questions or doubts you would have regarding this..
Sorry again, Michele.
Best regards
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I am also posting it twice in case it is missed:
The site began as a search engine of free images and it used to take free images from the internet and it used to index them.
So you don't do this any more? because I just took a look and it seems like you have still got work pulled from sites clearly violating people's copyright. Here are two examples I found after looking for 1 minute that you have pulled from allfreedownload.com
Yours:
http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/cute-cartoon-animals-zoo-vector-graphics_684648.htm (http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/cute-cartoon-animals-zoo-vector-graphics_684648.htm)
The actual owner:
http://www.123rf.com/photo_3429873_stock-photo.html (http://www.123rf.com/photo_3429873_stock-photo.html)
Yours:
http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/free-vector-misc-fine-drums-art_676795.htm (http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/free-vector-misc-fine-drums-art_676795.htm)
The actual owner:
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-48535954/stock-vector-vector-drums.html?src=pp-photo-33926740 (http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-48535954/stock-vector-vector-drums.html?src=pp-photo-33926740)
There have been 3 million plus downloads from your site of files from just this one warez site, most of these are likely in violation of artists copyright (in my opinion).
It is no good hiding behind the DMCA waiting for artists to get in touch with takedown notices when your whole model is based on giving away other people's work in violation of their copyright. Artists can't spend their whole time looking through your millions of images. Shame.
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Almost the entire site is copies of best-selling vectors. It's not just me. The other vectors on freepik are copies of other artists' best selling work—I recognize them immediately from Shutterstock. There's simply no way 100+ designers from around the world are spontaneously creating almost exact replicas of top sellers from Shutterstock. Clearly freepik's company policy is to hire people to copy bestselling work and offer it for free, and then advertise our real work on Shutterstock to make money from those sales.
It may be beneficial for you, but you take away our earnings with your free copies on the one hand and make money from our work on Shutterstock with the other. So it's sure not beneficial for us.
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Almost the entire site is copies of best-selling vectors. It's not just me. The other vectors on freepik are copies of other artists' best selling work—I recognize them immediately from Shutterstock. There's simply no way 100+ designers from around the world are spontaneously creating almost exact replicas of top sellers from Shutterstock. Clearly freepik's company policy is to hire people to copy bestselling work and offer it for free, and then advertise our real work on Shutterstock to make money from those sales.
It may be beneficial for you, but you take away our earnings with your free copies on the one hand and make money from our work on Shutterstock with the other. So it's sure not beneficial for us.
The copies are one thing, then there's also the work that is actual other artist's work, that I have described and linked to. It's all an awful mess.
And to think that they are now recruiting stock artists and could become a new stock site, their success based on the masses of traffic generated as described here. It's too depressing to think about.
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I am also posting it twice in case it is missed:
The site began as a search engine of free images and it used to take free images from the internet and it used to index them.
So you don't do this any more? because I just took a look and it seems like you have still got work pulled from sites clearly violating people's copyright. Here are two examples I found after looking for 1 minute that you have pulled from allfreedownload.com
Yours:
[url]http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/cute-cartoon-animals-zoo-vector-graphics_684648.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/cute-cartoon-animals-zoo-vector-graphics_684648.htm[/url])
The actual owner:
[url]http://www.123rf.com/photo_3429873_stock-photo.html[/url] ([url]http://www.123rf.com/photo_3429873_stock-photo.html[/url])
Yours:
[url]http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/free-vector-misc-fine-drums-art_676795.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/free-vector-misc-fine-drums-art_676795.htm[/url])
The actual owner:
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-48535954/stock-vector-vector-drums.html?src=pp-photo-33926740[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-48535954/stock-vector-vector-drums.html?src=pp-photo-33926740[/url])
There have been 3 million plus downloads from your site of files from just this one warez site, most of these are likely in violation of artists copyright (in my opinion).
It is no good hiding behind the DMCA waiting for artists to get in touch with takedown notices when your whole model is based on giving away other people's work in violation of their copyright. Artists can't spend their whole time looking through your millions of images. Shame.
I'm sure Freepik will say that they are just indexing allfreedownload.com (the real site has dashes between the words) and the voilation is not theirs. And I think they have point. The allfreedownload.com is a major violator, but the use the Shutterstock API, so they have been vetted and apporved by Shutterstock. If Shutterstock shut down their API access, they would not exist. Shutterstock is funding sites like this who are very careless with their content. So complain to Shutterstock, not Freepik.
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The same as AFD and others will say they are just allowing users to upload content and the violation is not theirs. The fact is Freepik knows exactly what they are doing and the sort of places the content is coming from, just like AFD and the like do.
You are correct though, there is enough blame to go round.
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I mostly agree, but again, the affiliation with Shutterstock is the funding mechanism - for both sites, actually. Complaining to Shutterstock may get them to crack down.
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I mostly agree, but again, the affiliation with Shutterstock is the funding mechanism - for both sites, actually. Complaining to Shutterstock may get them to crack down.
and do you think that shutterstock will really take the hands off.?
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Hello again everyone,
Justanotherphotographer, we do not do this anymore. However, there are resources that are still indexed, like the examples that you have indicated and we have already erased.
We take seriously every copyright infringement and we invest a lot of money in creating our own content. Therefore, whenever we detect plagiarism, we take measures immediatly removing the content and correcting our working methods, but it is inevitable that some case go unnoticed.
Shelma, I can ensure you that we never ask for replicas from Shutterstock and whenever we have detected a plagiarism of any sort, we have immediately terminated the contract with the designer as we do not tolerate these actions. We work with many authors and one of our core values is to respect the work of designers. Those working exclusively for us know how we are react in terms of copies.
As for the contributors, there are more and more people interested in our system. Having your illustrations in Freepik doesnt mean that the sales of your images in other banks decrease but, in fact, it is a way to monetize files for which a designer was no longer generating any income in other platforms. Designers like you have tried it and they are very satisfied.
Really, we'd love to have your collaboration. We would like you to give us a chance, get to know us, as now you know how much we strive to make your work be respected by others.
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You take the images down, move the elements around and put them right back up again.
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Hello again everyone,
Justanotherphotographer, we do not do this anymore. However, there are resources that are still indexed, like the examples that you have indicated and we have already erased.
We take seriously every copyright infringement and we invest a lot of money in creating our own content. Therefore, whenever we detect plagiarism, we take measures immediatly removing the content and correcting our working methods, but it is inevitable that some case go unnoticed.
Shelma, I can ensure you that we never ask for replicas from Shutterstock and whenever we have detected a plagiarism of any sort, we have immediately terminated the contract with the designer as we do not tolerate these actions. We work with many authors and one of our core values is to respect the work of designers. Those working exclusively for us know how we are react in terms of copies.
As for the contributors, there are more and more people interested in our system. Having your illustrations in Freepik doesnt mean that the sales of your images in other banks decrease but, in fact, it is a way to monetize files for which a designer was no longer generating any income in other platforms. Designers like you have tried it and they are very satisfied.
Really, we'd love to have your collaboration. We would like you to give us a chance, get to know us, as now you know how much we strive to make your work be respected by others.
So are you saying that contributors are placing their illustrations on Freepik and giving them away for free, with the hopes that they will ride on your search placement coattails, etc. and then make sales from sites like Shutterstock? Because you should know that most of the people who are on this forum, and really, most people who are in business to make money, will NEVER give their images away for free. I can't speak for everybody, but my whole point of putting images on microstock agencies is to sell. I never give away images for free. It's bad enough having to watch thieves steal, and see people post high resolution image sizes of my images on their website, making them available for all for free.
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Hello again everyone,
Justanotherphotographer, we do not do this anymore. However, there are resources that are still indexed, like the examples that you have indicated and we have already erased.
We take seriously every copyright infringement and we invest a lot of money in creating our own content. Therefore, whenever we detect plagiarism, we take measures immediatly removing the content and correcting our working methods, but it is inevitable that some case go unnoticed.
Shelma, I can ensure you that we never ask for replicas from Shutterstock and whenever we have detected a plagiarism of any sort, we have immediately terminated the contract with the designer as we do not tolerate these actions. We work with many authors and one of our core values is to respect the work of designers. Those working exclusively for us know how we are react in terms of copies.
As for the contributors, there are more and more people interested in our system. Having your illustrations in Freepik doesnt mean that the sales of your images in other banks decrease but, in fact, it is a way to monetize files for which a designer was no longer generating any income in other platforms. Designers like you have tried it and they are very satisfied.
Really, we'd love to have your collaboration. We would like you to give us a chance, get to know us, as now you know how much we strive to make your work be respected by others.
So are you saying that contributors are placing their illustrations on Freepik and giving them away for free, with the hopes that they will ride on your search placement coattails, etc. and then make sales from sites like Shutterstock? Because you should know that most of the people who are on this forum, and really, most people who are in business to make money, will NEVER give their images away for free. I can't speak for everybody, but my whole point of putting images on microstock agencies is to sell. I never give away images for free. It's bad enough having to watch thieves steal, and see people post high resolution image sizes of my images on their website, making them available for all for free.
We pay to designers $5 per 1000 downloads.
Here you have a success story: http://www.freepik.com/blog/kirsty-pargeter-how-to-earn-money-with-your-designs/ (http://www.freepik.com/blog/kirsty-pargeter-how-to-earn-money-with-your-designs/)
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We pay to designers $5 per 1000 downloads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLNrLI3OBwg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLNrLI3OBwg)
Where's the minus button when you need it?
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Kirsty Pargeter is one of the most successful illustrators around. For her to make $207 since Dec. 9 on one image, that means that 41,000+ people have downloaded that one image (if she gets the $5 per 1000 downloads deal). (I hope I did the math right...not my strong suit).
That sounds like a whole lot of downloads, but if anyone can do it, it would be her. Since she is your spokesperson, perhaps she gets a sweeter deal?
I can't imagine that most illustrators that go on your site will make that much money. There are a lot of talented illustrators that come here, maybe they can provide more insight, but getting 41,000+ downloads in one month for one image sounds pretty incredible. Please, illustrators, correct me if I am way off base.
My point is...$5 for every 1000 downloads is almost like putting your images there for free.
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Hmmm. Somewhat successful, I'd say. Many of the illustrators here are far more successful. $207 is a couple of good SODs on Shutterstock. Totally doable with a popular holiday image—and you don't have to give the milk away on Freepik.
I just imagine if buyers knew they could get all her images for free, it would kill her income very quickly.
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We pay to all contributors $5 for every 1000 downloads. We know that this is a new business model, but It's just another way to earn money with your illustrations and you can try it when you want :) (Please mail us to marketing(at)freepik.com)
And the most important. We want that you know that we take seriously every copyright infringement. Therefore, whenever we detect plagiarism, we take measures immediatly removing the content and correcting our working methods, but it is inevitable that some case go unnoticed. This happens in all banks and, in fact, we sometimes are also victims of plagiarism.
Shelma, if you need we can talk by Hangout or Skype but, if not, we will leave this matter to our lawyers, because publishing false accusations is an illegal act.
Thanks so much and we keep in touch for everything you need
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So how does this new business model work?
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For them "business", for designers s**t
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lawyers
Blah blah blah lawyers
You continue to leave copies of my illustrations on your site(s). I've pointed them out to you and you take them down, move elements around and put them back up. Here you've changed the curve of the handles slightly and replaced the ribbon:
http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/shopping-bag-for-black-friday_759528.htm#term=black%20friday%20shopping%20bag&page=1&position=6 (http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/shopping-bag-for-black-friday_759528.htm#term=black%20friday%20shopping%20bag&page=1&position=6)
Then you've come up with more iterations, with gifts in the bag, evergreens behind the bag, blue tags on the bag...a thumb of the nose, I suppose. Why don't you just take this particular stupid bag down and be done with it?
I do see you seem to have deleted some of the most obvious copies of Shutterstock work, though. I'm glad for that, especially with Easter coming up. Though you still have a very close copy of a very popular Easter Bunny (not mine) appearing here and there.
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-178928885/stock-vector-have-yourself-a-very-happy-easter-easter-bunny-ears-vector.html?src=8FAtiGi2Vzqv2ZELqMuYyA-1-1 (http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-178928885/stock-vector-have-yourself-a-very-happy-easter-easter-bunny-ears-vector.html?src=8FAtiGi2Vzqv2ZELqMuYyA-1-1)
http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/lovely-easter-bunny_766342.htm#term=easter&page=1&position=17 (http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/lovely-easter-bunny_766342.htm#term=easter&page=1&position=17)
Is Lena Pan working with you?
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-152546006/stock-vector-halloween-party-design-template-with-pumpkin-and-place-for-text.html?src=tFb7fol9TZ9gehCt8Iy6Bg-1-7 (http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-152546006/stock-vector-halloween-party-design-template-with-pumpkin-and-place-for-text.html?src=tFb7fol9TZ9gehCt8Iy6Bg-1-7)
http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/halloween-vector-party-template_610074.htm#term=halloween%20party&page=11&position=7 (http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/halloween-vector-party-template_610074.htm#term=halloween%20party&page=11&position=7)
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sharpshot, skyfish:
It's "new" because you earn money for the downloads. We offer high quality resources to our users and they can use them for free (with attribution) or they can subscribe and use them without credits.
The users can download your resources free, but you will earn a lot of money. And this is the novelty.
http://www.freepik.com/blog/kirsty-pargeter-how-to-earn-money-with-your-designs/ (http://www.freepik.com/blog/kirsty-pargeter-how-to-earn-money-with-your-designs/)
It isn't a s**t, I can assure you. We're telling you how Freepik works, and we do it with respect. One person has accused us of uncertain things and we wanted explain it personally in this forum and inform you about our new system of contributors.
if you do not want to try it, you do not have to do it :) But we think that it's a fantastique way to monetize your illustrations.
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...Is Lena Pan working with you?
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-152546006/stock-vector-halloween-party-design-template-with-pumpkin-and-place-for-text.html?src=tFb7fol9TZ9gehCt8Iy6Bg-1-7[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-152546006/stock-vector-halloween-party-design-template-with-pumpkin-and-place-for-text.html?src=tFb7fol9TZ9gehCt8Iy6Bg-1-7[/url])
[url]http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/halloween-vector-party-template_610074.htm#term=halloween%20party&page=11&position=7[/url] ([url]http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/halloween-vector-party-template_610074.htm#term=halloween%20party&page=11&position=7[/url])
So the graphic on FreePik is credited to CG Vector (http://www.whois.com/whois/cgvector.com)
http://www.cgvector.com/free-vector-of-halloween-party-template/ (http://www.cgvector.com/free-vector-of-halloween-party-template/)
CG Vector appears to be loaded with copies of Shutterstock vectors, for example:
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-155501288/stock-vector-retro-thanksgiving-card-with-pumpkins.html (http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-155501288/stock-vector-retro-thanksgiving-card-with-pumpkins.html)
http://www.cgvector.com/free-vector-pumpkin-thanksgiving-card/ (http://www.cgvector.com/free-vector-pumpkin-thanksgiving-card/)
So if FreePik wants to be taken seriously as a legitimate source of graphics - and offering work that's been stolen or plagiarized puts FreePik's customers at legal risk as well - it should remove anything from CG Vector until it has a chance to verify ownership.
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The users can download your resources free, but you will earn a lot of money. And this is the novelty.
I must be really dense, because this statement seems to contradict itself. If users can download my resources for free, how do I earn a lot of money? $5 per 1000 downloads is not a lot of money, for one thing, and I don't get what you mean with that "free" word.
Doesn't really matter, I am not an illustrator and wouldn't upload here anyway. I'm just trying to get what is going on.
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...Is Lena Pan working with you?
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-152546006/stock-vector-halloween-party-design-template-with-pumpkin-and-place-for-text.html?src=tFb7fol9TZ9gehCt8Iy6Bg-1-7[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-152546006/stock-vector-halloween-party-design-template-with-pumpkin-and-place-for-text.html?src=tFb7fol9TZ9gehCt8Iy6Bg-1-7[/url])
[url]http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/halloween-vector-party-template_610074.htm#term=halloween%20party&page=11&position=7[/url] ([url]http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/halloween-vector-party-template_610074.htm#term=halloween%20party&page=11&position=7[/url])
So the graphic on FreePik is credited to CG Vector ([url]http://www.whois.com/whois/cgvector.com[/url])
[url]http://www.cgvector.com/free-vector-of-halloween-party-template/[/url] ([url]http://www.cgvector.com/free-vector-of-halloween-party-template/[/url])
CG Vector appears to be loaded with copies of Shutterstock vectors, for example:
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-155501288/stock-vector-retro-thanksgiving-card-with-pumpkins.html[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-155501288/stock-vector-retro-thanksgiving-card-with-pumpkins.html[/url])
[url]http://www.cgvector.com/free-vector-pumpkin-thanksgiving-card/[/url] ([url]http://www.cgvector.com/free-vector-pumpkin-thanksgiving-card/[/url])
So if FreePik wants to be taken seriously as a legitimate source of graphics - and offering work that's been stolen or plagiarized puts FreePik's customers at legal risk as well - it should remove anything from CG Vector until it has a chance to verify ownership.
Thank you Jo Ann Snover. It's correct. In this or in another forum we have explained that Freepik was a search engine that compiled content from other sites.
And this resource was taken from Vecteezy (you can see in the right column, under the download button). We haven't the resource in our servers; we only redirects our users to vecteezy.
But, of course, we are going to delete it. As we said you, "whenever we detect plagiarism, we take measures immediatly removing the content, but it is inevitable that some case go unnoticed."
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This guy is like Martin Shkreli. He has an answer for everything, but never quite addresses the real questions. Even if we wanted to play DMCA whack-a-mole, how would we even find out if any of our stuff was there?
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The users can download your resources free, but you will earn a lot of money. And this is the novelty.
I must be really dense, because this statement seems to contradict itself. If users can download my resources for free, how do I earn a lot of money? $5 per 1000 downloads is not a lot of money, for one thing, and I don't get what you mean with that "free" word.
Doesn't really matter, I am not an illustrator and wouldn't upload here anyway. I'm just trying to get what is going on.
First of all, sorry for my english. I know it isn't perfect :-[
I will try to explain it better. The users can download your resources for free, but you earn a lot of money because we will pay to you per downloads.
For example, this illustration was uploaded 4 days ago and it has +9000 downloads. (it's an exclusive resource designed by freepik, but imagine that is yours).
http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/hand-drawn-roses-and-leaves-pattern_836794.htm (http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/hand-drawn-roses-and-leaves-pattern_836794.htm)
You would have won $ 45 in 4 days, and this amount continues growing, of course. And, also, you could to have the illustration in other banks, because it's a non-exclusive agreement.
How about it? Here you have more info: http://www.freepik.com/become-a-contributor (http://www.freepik.com/become-a-contributor)
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This guy is like Martin Shkreli. He has an answer for everything, but never quite addresses the real questions. Even if we wanted to play DMCA whack-a-mole, how would we even find out if any of our stuff was there?
How do you do it in other sites? You are artists, I guess that you have always this problem, not only in Freepik. We are also often victims of plagiarism, and we find it when someone tell us or when we I seek our images on Google.
But, really, the copies on Freepik are exceptions.
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a lot of money? 0.005c per download. are you sick in the head?
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The users can download your resources free, but you will earn a lot of money. And this is the novelty.
I must be really dense, because this statement seems to contradict itself. If users can download my resources for free, how do I earn a lot of money? $5 per 1000 downloads is not a lot of money, for one thing, and I don't get what you mean with that "free" word.
Doesn't really matter, I am not an illustrator and wouldn't upload here anyway. I'm just trying to get what is going on.
First of all, sorry for my english. I know it isn't perfect :-[ :-)
I will try to explain it better. The users can download your resources for free, but you earn a lot of money because we will pay to you per downloads.
For example, this illustration was uploaded 4 days ago and it has +9000 downloads. (it's an exclusive resource designed by freepik, but imagine that is yours).
[url]http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/hand-drawn-roses-and-leaves-pattern_836794.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/hand-drawn-roses-and-leaves-pattern_836794.htm[/url])
You would have won $ 45 in 4 days, and this amount continues growing, of course. And, also, you could to have the illustration in other banks, because it's a non-exclusive agreement.
How about it? Here you have more info: [url]http://www.freepik.com/become-a-contributor[/url] ([url]http://www.freepik.com/become-a-contributor[/url])
Which all begs the question: how is Freepix making money?
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Monty-m-gue, we have subscribers to Freepik and we have advertising in our site.
We have 10 million users around the world.
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a lot of money? 0.005c per download. are you sick in the head?
Please, read this interview: http://www.freepik.com/blog/kirsty-pargeter-how-to-earn-money-with-your-designs/ (http://www.freepik.com/blog/kirsty-pargeter-how-to-earn-money-with-your-designs/)
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9000 downloads 45 dollar
nuff said
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Freepik, you mentioned that the free downloads require attribution whereas the paid subscribers are not required to include attribution.
Attribution is rather worthless however I am curious as to what steps you take, if any, to assure that those hundreds of thousands of free downloads are properly attributed?
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$5 for 1000 downloads. HOW WONDERFUL. LOL LOL I'm going to quit spending all day in the park with a metal detector, and become a "designer", it pays about the same.
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This is going to be a losing battle in the forum for Freepik, but the reality is that they have a business model, and it's working, and they are paying people to participate, which is more than most sketchy free outlets. The copying is worrisome, and they have grown to a point where it is difficult to police. That needs to be addressed. People download things a ton because they are free. You can make $45 quickly with free downloads, or you can complain about being one of 60 million elements (many very similar) in Shutterstock and hope that your work gets picked a few times. There are userbases that are addressed by each model. Do you think that this graphic being downloaded 9000 times is depriving you of 9000 legitimate licenses? No.
Freepik is here to discuss the model, and you can be crappy and make sure that no sites bother to defend themselves in the future, or you can examine the changing landscape of how media is distributed and, since it's not going away, see how it can be ethically improved. Yes, this model is a threat to other models, which were threats to the models before.
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A big part of the problem is, we can't even understand the 'model'. I see a thread about 'the next crook', read a dozen posts, and can't even figure out what this new site is doing. Something about scraping supposedly 'free' images from other sites, or maybe via an API, or maybe they're submitted by 'designers', and they're attributed, or not, or they're free, or they're paying .001 cent per download, and they're responsible for plagiarism, or they're not, and someone demanded Photaki take down their images, and they said they would, but they didn't, or maybe they did but they showed up again.
The way these 'redistributors' win is by wearing us down. Bottom line, DMCA puts the responsibility on the victim, and nobody has the time to run down all the possible infringements on the planet, or figure out the latest convoluted 'business model' which seems to me - on the surface - to be yet another 'model' for making money by reselling the work of other people, thinly repackaged, without their knowledge, while skating just inside some zone of legality, according to someone's interpretation. .
If anyone manages to figure out Freepik, please lay it out for the rest of us.
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Okay. Freepik make most of their cash via sending people to SS plus a little from subscriptions. The benefit for the subscriber is that they won't have to attribute if they pay for a subscription. That is where their income comes from.
The problem is the work on the site. Up until recently the library was mostly made up of work they pulled off of other sites via a search engine. Many of the sites they index are, some would say, questionable.
On to the present library. They claim to no longer add work from these other sites, but still have work from them as linked to in this and other threads. They also have a large staff producing "original" work. Again see previous examples and make your mind up about how original. Finally they have also started approaching artists to contribute work for x amount per 1000 downloads.
That is the model. I am sure feepik will correct me if I am wrong. Their library is there for you to examine and compare to SS. You can make up your own mind if you want to accept payment from a company that has built it's traffic in this way.
Eta "freepik" so it is clear which site I am referring to.
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Is the 80% the .001 same deal? http://www.photaki.com/make-money (http://www.photaki.com/make-money)
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Photaki is something else, but has the same owner. My post is in answer to the question about freepik
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Photaki is something else, but has the same owner. My post is in answer to the question about freepik
See what I mean about confusing? I'll correct my previous post.
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I would guess to say they have an agreement with shutterstock that the traffic they bring to SS for new users and downloads gives them a certain commission off the sale.
Everyone wants free stuff but when they see what is available to purchase and if it is right for a project of sorts, they will shell out the money to get that image.
I just searched one query and my image was second on the shutterstock sponsored images that came up. If this avenue is bringing in more sales to me on shutterstock, it's hard for me to complain but I do worry about copying other artists work and trying to keep the sales within that site to take the bigger cut. Thank God I make stuff that's hard to copy.
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There was something about using Google AdSense in the info I read, that would bring in a bit of money. Still doesn't make me want to try it.
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How about the fact that there are 9,000 copies of your same image floating around on the web without any credits?
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How about the fact that there are 9,000 copies of your same image floating around on the web without any credits?
Once you upload to any microstock site and set your work out into the web, you have lost ownership and control. I don't see how people think they can have any ownership once they upload and sell out to the middle or low sites. These places have all the rights and you have just sold out.
People in search of will 25c pimp their work anyplace and then wonder why it's stolen and resold on 9000 other places, with no credit. Top Tier - Big 4 or stop your crying about theft.
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1- 9000 images downloaded... who and where people have credited... do you have any proofs?
2- If they were in subscription, so they do not require any attribution.. so according to you we have sold (given free) 1 image 9000 times and have freely given 9000 commercial without attribution licenses. Now users will use this design as they want. So according to the deal we have given 9000 commercial licenses for merely $45...
3- Are we destroying the industry?
4- I am sure people sometimes earn $70-$100 in single download from shutterstock, now guess if we get 9000 same downloads at ss.
5- Who is really making money here? freepik or designers? and the main question is... is it really about money here?
6- There are lot of designs which are exact copy (not plagarism.. exact copy) of other users from various websites. When someone shares the link to you, you guys say that it is inevitable and we are very very sorry...?? man if we upload 100s of other users designs to shutterstock and say sorry to them and say it is inevitable.. do you think shutterstock will wipe tears of designers who lost their designs in such scam.
7- Its a old website started from design robbery and now trying to coverup things..? This is what I can see right now.
8 - Can I die peacefully in this world >:(
Edit:
What you guys have to say for this.. I am sorry ?
"http://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/60919-another-site-with-tons-of-stolen-illustrations"
P.S. I am afraid of lawsuits and lawyers
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Also what happens when a buyer licenses your work for cash on another site then finds out they could have got it for free? Refund at a minimum, also a very annoyed buyer who wont be buying any more images.
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How about the fact that there are 9,000 copies of your same image floating around on the web without any credits?
Once you upload to any microstock site and set your work out into the web, you have lost ownership and control. I don't see how people think they can have any ownership once they upload and sell out to the middle or low sites. These places have all the rights and you have just sold out.
People in search of will 25c pimp their work anyplace and then wonder why it's stolen and resold on 9000 other places, with no credit. Top Tier - Big 4 or stop your crying about theft.
I disagree, the thieves mostly use istock and SS. They probably use stolen credit card details until somebody notices. Some of them have even advertised their stolen images as SS or istock collections.
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Vector
Shutterstock: http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-121913818/stock-vector-vector-illustration-of-a-single-detailed-security-camera-icon-isolated-on-soft-background.html?src=RqtuFZtSjYbeWG_gUfp4pg-1-33 (http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-121913818/stock-vector-vector-illustration-of-a-single-detailed-security-camera-icon-isolated-on-soft-background.html?src=RqtuFZtSjYbeWG_gUfp4pg-1-33)
Freepik: http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/realistic-camera-lens_789214.htm#term=photo&page=3&position=36 (http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/realistic-camera-lens_789214.htm#term=photo&page=3&position=36)
Photo
Creative Market: https://creativemarket.com/Bells/44448-Remember-when-film-was-developed (https://creativemarket.com/Bells/44448-Remember-when-film-was-developed)
FreePik: http://www.freepik.com/free-photo/cartoon-stickers_758481.htm#term=photo&page=6&position=6 (http://www.freepik.com/free-photo/cartoon-stickers_758481.htm#term=photo&page=6&position=6)
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Vector
Shutterstock: [url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-121913818/stock-vector-vector-illustration-of-a-single-detailed-security-camera-icon-isolated-on-soft-background.html?src=RqtuFZtSjYbeWG_gUfp4pg-1-33[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-121913818/stock-vector-vector-illustration-of-a-single-detailed-security-camera-icon-isolated-on-soft-background.html?src=RqtuFZtSjYbeWG_gUfp4pg-1-33[/url])
Freepik: [url]http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/realistic-camera-lens_789214.htm#term=photo&page=3&position=36[/url] ([url]http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/realistic-camera-lens_789214.htm#term=photo&page=3&position=36[/url])
Photo
Creative Market: [url]https://creativemarket.com/Bells/44448-Remember-when-film-was-developed[/url] ([url]https://creativemarket.com/Bells/44448-Remember-when-film-was-developed[/url])
FreePik: [url]http://www.freepik.com/free-photo/cartoon-stickers_758481.htm#term=photo&page=6&position=6[/url] ([url]http://www.freepik.com/free-photo/cartoon-stickers_758481.htm#term=photo&page=6&position=6[/url])
Unbelievable how that guy can come in here and threaten legal action when he himself should be looking in a mirror. I hope SS takes some action. This is utterly disgusting.
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I think the photo may have been uploaded by the owner. Just by the user name on freepik.
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a lot of money? 0.005c per download. are you sick in the head?
Please, read this interview: [url]http://www.freepik.com/blog/kirsty-pargeter-how-to-earn-money-with-your-designs/[/url] ([url]http://www.freepik.com/blog/kirsty-pargeter-how-to-earn-money-with-your-designs/[/url])
You mean: ad disguised as an interview, surely? Why would anyone who sells at SS, Fotolia or iStock also be a contributor for Freepik? It's even worse than shooting yourself in the foot. She must be getting paid for this interview, or she is completely clueless.
Also, the copycatting and plagiarism is a major issue on this site and therefore it should be taken down immediately. Freepik is a disgrace to the industry. They even dare to threaten us with lawyers, while it's us that should be suing them.
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Vector
Shutterstock: [url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-121913818/stock-vector-vector-illustration-of-a-single-detailed-security-camera-icon-isolated-on-soft-background.html?src=RqtuFZtSjYbeWG_gUfp4pg-1-33[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-121913818/stock-vector-vector-illustration-of-a-single-detailed-security-camera-icon-isolated-on-soft-background.html?src=RqtuFZtSjYbeWG_gUfp4pg-1-33[/url])
Freepik: [url]http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/realistic-camera-lens_789214.htm#term=photo&page=3&position=36[/url] ([url]http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/realistic-camera-lens_789214.htm#term=photo&page=3&position=36[/url])
Photo
Creative Market: [url]https://creativemarket.com/Bells/44448-Remember-when-film-was-developed[/url] ([url]https://creativemarket.com/Bells/44448-Remember-when-film-was-developed[/url])
FreePik: [url]http://www.freepik.com/free-photo/cartoon-stickers_758481.htm#term=photo&page=6&position=6[/url] ([url]http://www.freepik.com/free-photo/cartoon-stickers_758481.htm#term=photo&page=6&position=6[/url])
Unbelievable how that guy can come in here and threaten legal action when he himself should be looking in a mirror. I hope SS takes some action. This is utterly disgusting.
Just hot air I'm sure. What's really disgusting is seeing SS steadily deteriorate by taking on shadowy "partners", who in turn have even more shadowy "designers", and so on.
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I think the photo may have been uploaded by the owner. Just by the user name on freepik.
Yes, could be. Sad, then. I guess there's no way to tell if you're losing sales in one place because you're giving your work away for free in another. I did see some Unsplash photos on FreePik, but again, maybe the Unsplash people are also uploading there, since they give their photos away free anyway.
It's a sad business model all around. But at least they're deleting copies of our work as we point it out.
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Vector
Shutterstock: [url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-121913818/stock-vector-vector-illustration-of-a-single-detailed-security-camera-icon-isolated-on-soft-background.html?src=RqtuFZtSjYbeWG_gUfp4pg-1-33[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-121913818/stock-vector-vector-illustration-of-a-single-detailed-security-camera-icon-isolated-on-soft-background.html?src=RqtuFZtSjYbeWG_gUfp4pg-1-33[/url])
Freepik: [url]http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/realistic-camera-lens_789214.htm#term=photo&page=3&position=36[/url] ([url]http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/realistic-camera-lens_789214.htm#term=photo&page=3&position=36[/url])
Photo
Creative Market: [url]https://creativemarket.com/Bells/44448-Remember-when-film-was-developed[/url] ([url]https://creativemarket.com/Bells/44448-Remember-when-film-was-developed[/url])
FreePik: [url]http://www.freepik.com/free-photo/cartoon-stickers_758481.htm#term=photo&page=6&position=6[/url] ([url]http://www.freepik.com/free-photo/cartoon-stickers_758481.htm#term=photo&page=6&position=6[/url])
Yeah, the photo is totally fine. Ryan McGwire seems to give all his work away at http://www.gratisography.com (http://www.gratisography.com)
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Vector
Shutterstock: [url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-121913818/stock-vector-vector-illustration-of-a-single-detailed-security-camera-icon-isolated-on-soft-background.html?src=RqtuFZtSjYbeWG_gUfp4pg-1-33[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-121913818/stock-vector-vector-illustration-of-a-single-detailed-security-camera-icon-isolated-on-soft-background.html?src=RqtuFZtSjYbeWG_gUfp4pg-1-33[/url])
Freepik: [url]http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/realistic-camera-lens_789214.htm#term=photo&page=3&position=36[/url] ([url]http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/realistic-camera-lens_789214.htm#term=photo&page=3&position=36[/url])
Photo
Creative Market: [url]https://creativemarket.com/Bells/44448-Remember-when-film-was-developed[/url] ([url]https://creativemarket.com/Bells/44448-Remember-when-film-was-developed[/url])
FreePik: [url]http://www.freepik.com/free-photo/cartoon-stickers_758481.htm#term=photo&page=6&position=6[/url] ([url]http://www.freepik.com/free-photo/cartoon-stickers_758481.htm#term=photo&page=6&position=6[/url])
Shelma, the author of this image (http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/realistic-camera-lens_789214.htm (http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/realistic-camera-lens_789214.htm)) is contributor of Freepik, and we have the distribution rights for this image. Please, if you have any plagiarism case of your work, send it us, but if you are looking for examples of other authors note that we have many contributors before falsely accusing.
The second example, as others have said, is content indexed by Freepik from http://gratisography.com (http://gratisography.com)
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Hi! Interesting. Are you partners also of soso.nipic.com?
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@Freepik, do you accept photos, icons or psd, png files from contributors also?
Thank you.
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@Freepik, do you accept photos, icons or psd, png files from contributors also?
Thank you.
You actually want to send your work to these people...??!!!!
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@Freepik, do you accept photos, icons or psd, png files from contributors also?
Thank you.
You actually want to send your work to these people...??!!!!
1. Just asking.
2. Long time ago (~8-10 years) I've uploaded about 1K images to Morguefile and to shc.hu, just to donate for free images that no one stock agency accepted: too small size or some other problems. Anyway they're sitting there and are being downloaded daily without any revenue to me.
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Vector
Shutterstock: [url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-121913818/stock-vector-vector-illustration-of-a-single-detailed-security-camera-icon-isolated-on-soft-background.html?src=RqtuFZtSjYbeWG_gUfp4pg-1-33[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-121913818/stock-vector-vector-illustration-of-a-single-detailed-security-camera-icon-isolated-on-soft-background.html?src=RqtuFZtSjYbeWG_gUfp4pg-1-33[/url])
Freepik: [url]http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/realistic-camera-lens_789214.htm#term=photo&page=3&position=36[/url] ([url]http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/realistic-camera-lens_789214.htm#term=photo&page=3&position=36[/url])
Photo
Creative Market: [url]https://creativemarket.com/Bells/44448-Remember-when-film-was-developed[/url] ([url]https://creativemarket.com/Bells/44448-Remember-when-film-was-developed[/url])
FreePik: [url]http://www.freepik.com/free-photo/cartoon-stickers_758481.htm#term=photo&page=6&position=6[/url] ([url]http://www.freepik.com/free-photo/cartoon-stickers_758481.htm#term=photo&page=6&position=6[/url])
Shelma, the author of this image ([url]http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/realistic-camera-lens_789214.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/realistic-camera-lens_789214.htm[/url])) is contributor of Freepik, and we have the distribution rights for this image. Please, if you have any plagiarism case of your work, send it us, but if you are looking for examples of other authors note that we have many contributors before falsely accusing.
The second example, as others have said, is content indexed by Freepik from [url]http://gratisography.com[/url] ([url]http://gratisography.com[/url])
Artists have the same pictures on SS for money and free on freepik to compete with them self? How odd.
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A recipe for some very p****d off and confused customers.
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And here's one of the images you've supposedly taken down, still available on vecree.com for free and attributed to freepik:
https://vecree.com/856213/black-shopping-bag-for-black-friday-vector-free-download/
The yellow sombrero is there as well. And also "designed" by "freepik."
*sigh*
I can't even begin to imagine how many websites your ripoffs are on.
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It looks like this site just crawls and indexes freepik but has not control over it, just as freepik crawls and indexes other sites.
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And here's one of the images you've supposedly taken down, still available on vecree.com for free and attributed to freepik:
[url]https://vecree.com/856213/black-shopping-bag-for-black-friday-vector-free-download/[/url] ([url]https://vecree.com/856213/black-shopping-bag-for-black-friday-vector-free-download/[/url])
The yellow sombrero is there as well. And also "designed" by "freepik."
*sigh*
I can't even begin to imagine how many websites your ripoffs are on.
This site only indexes freepik and redirects it to their website only.
And do you really want only this image to be removed??
I guess there are tons of images in their website which are exact copy and are illegally published at their website.
Moreover, website like http://all-free-download.com/ (http://all-free-download.com/) .... they are also biggest culprit, do a search and I am sure you will find many designs which are published and available for free download. Total illegally taken.
They are no business but a scam and theifs.
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Well put it this way. They claim they were just a search engine up until recently so were only pulling work from other sites so not responsible. But then they not only stated that users have to attribute the work to them but would have to pay for a subscription to avoid attribution.
Imagine if Google did that, said that you could use images from their image search in you projects and had to attribute it to Google or pay up?
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Imagine if Google did that, said that you could use images from their image search in you projects and had to attribute it to Google or pay up?
Don't give them ideas :o
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I continue to find example after example of my work being copied almost exactly by freepik, even after asking them umpteen times to take all their ripoffs down. I don't want to bore everyone here with it, so I'm taking it to social media and Shutterstock's violations department. Now I take screenshots of everything as evidence, since they take stuff down or alter it slightly once I've made it public. So no more links, as they're "disappearing" all the evidence. I think I'll also start adding up the number of downloads their fake work has gotten so I can send them a bill. They pay their "designers" for downloads, after all.
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The waybackmachine does have what they've removed https://archive.org/web/
I think until a bunch of you get together and seek legal advice on this, they are going to carry on doing it. This is where a private forum would be useful. How much should they compensate you for loss of earnings? Could be quite a lot of money if the image was selling well before it had thousands of downloads without the copyright holders permission. Do you need to be compensated by the site and the people that have downloaded it and used it?
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I'm seriously considering some sort of legal action. Some of the tracings of my images have tens of thousands of downloads on freepik...they've been up there for years.
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I'm seriously considering some sort of legal action. Some of the tracings of my images have tens of thousands of downloads on freepik...they've been up there for years.
Given that this crew appears to be based in Spain, going after anything in the US you can might be more straightforward, cheaper and faster. You already mentioned Shutterstock - trying to get them to cut off the affiliate status for all this person's companies. It gives them legitimacy even if they don't earn much from affiliate sales.
The hosting companies, if they're in the US, and payment processors are the other options. At some point, the earn-money-from-other-people's-work big gorilla, Google, was making efforts to appear to combat piracy by adjusting searches to remove or penalize sites that were mostly pirate work. Possibly you could convince Google that this was a rogue site - without search engine position, I'm assuming it would really slow them down.
If you know any illustrators based in Spain that they've ripped off, perhaps they might have some avenues to pursue?
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Excellent suggestions.
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Step 1 taken.
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Step 1 taken.
Great... let them be behind the bars..
I suggest everyone to be very aware of such scams and do not.. again say do not go to such websites and give your stuffs or else you will cry later on..
Its like selling yourself for few pennies..
Also Shelma.. please update the topic name from "Photaki - the next crook?" to "Freepik and Photaki - the next crook"
Let everyone know about this scam.
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I'm seriously considering some sort of legal action. Some of the tracings of my images have tens of thousands of downloads on freepik...they've been up there for years.
Given that this crew appears to be based in Spain, going after anything in the US you can might be more straightforward, cheaper and faster. You already mentioned Shutterstock - trying to get them to cut off the affiliate status for all this person's companies. It gives them legitimacy even if they don't earn much from affiliate sales.
The hosting companies, if they're in the US, and payment processors are the other options. At some point, the earn-money-from-other-people's-work big gorilla, Google, was making efforts to appear to combat piracy by adjusting searches to remove or penalize sites that were mostly pirate work. Possibly you could convince Google that this was a rogue site - without search engine position, I'm assuming it would really slow them down.
If you know any illustrators based in Spain that they've ripped off, perhaps they might have some avenues to pursue?
Actually the income from SS is their primary source of revenue
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Hi,
We are trying to explain things with transparency and sincerity. We are here to talk with you. We just wanted to personally respond to comments, to meet you, to know how could we collaborate. We have addressed all claims of users, we have offered you to talk via Hangout or Skype, etc.
Shelma, as our Social Media team told you, we are checking all of the designs that you are demading. Please, it would be easier for both of us if we could have a conversation by email ([email protected]), Skype or Hangout.
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Freepik, please answer my questions. Why should it be up to us to find the images that are being downloaded thousands of times without the copyright holders consent? By the time these images are found, the person that originally made that image might of already lost a substantial amount of earnings. Please tell us how you are going to go through all your images, identify all the ones that are being used without consent and fully compensate the copyright holder. Then there's the problem with your designers making images that are very similar to other people's work instead of doing their own work. How do you justify that? Why would any sensible person here want to collaborate with a site that is doing that?
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Step 1 taken.
Great... let them be behind the bars..
I suggest everyone to be very aware of such scams and do not.. again say do not go to such websites and give your stuffs or else you will cry later on..
Its like selling yourself for few pennies..
Also Shelma.. please update the topic name from "Photaki - the next crook?" to "Freepik and Photaki - the next crook"
Let everyone know about this scam.
I can't uodate the thread title...I didn't start the thread.
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Hi,
We are trying to explain things with transparency and sincerity. We are here to talk with you. We just wanted to personally respond to comments, to meet you, to know how could we collaborate. We have addressed all claims of users, we have offered you to talk via Hangout or Skype, etc.
Shelma, as our Social Media team told you, we are checking all of the designs that you are demading. Please, it would be easier for both of us if we could have a conversation by email ([email protected]), Skype or Hangout.
Go Skype yourself.
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Freepik, please answer my questions. Why should it be up to us to find the images that are being downloaded thousands of times without the copyright holders consent? By the time these images are found, the person that originally made that image might of already lost a substantial amount of earnings. Please tell us how you are going to go through all your images, identify all the ones that are being used without consent and fully compensate the copyright holder. Then there's the problem with your designers making images that are very similar to other people's work instead of doing their own work. How do you justify that? Why would any sensible person here want to collaborate with a site that is doing that?
I’m answering you, sharpshot:
We make an exhaustive analysis of the resources created exclusively for us. It isn’t your labor, but ours. We do it, but it’s inevitable that some go unnoticed. This not only happens in Freepik but in all image banks. We are victims of copy in many occasions.
At the moment the the plagiarism is detected, we delete the content immediately. The affected author can contact us ([email protected] or [email protected]). We deeply investigate the case and compensate the author if necessary.
We don’t order similar designs, and if there is any plagiarism is because we have been deceived for the designer.
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You compensate the author? Oh, really? Is my check in the mail?
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Freepik, please answer my questions. Why should it be up to us to find the images that are being downloaded thousands of times without the copyright holders consent? By the time these images are found, the person that originally made that image might of already lost a substantial amount of earnings. Please tell us how you are going to go through all your images, identify all the ones that are being used without consent and fully compensate the copyright holder. Then there's the problem with your designers making images that are very similar to other people's work instead of doing their own work. How do you justify that? Why would any sensible person here want to collaborate with a site that is doing that?
I’m answering you, sharpshot:
We make an exhaustive analysis of the resources created exclusively for us. It isn’t your labor, but ours. We do it, but it’s inevitable that some go unnoticed. This not only happens in Freepik but in all image banks. We are victims of copy in many occasions.
At the moment the the plagiarism is detected, we delete the content immediately. The affected author can contact us ([email protected] or [email protected]). We deeply investigate the case and compensate the author if necessary.
We don’t order similar designs, and if there is any plagiarism is because we have been deceived for the designer.
first I hate when you guys say the word "inevitable" and "sorry"
second compensate, are you kiding? you guys have already give those images 1000s times with commercial license for free.
If we calculate the commercial license cost which other websites give and multiply with the download number. will you guys give a proper compensation?
and guess what.. there is no model release, no property release, no watermark nothing.. only copyright, is this right business?
also you guys have designers team who's work is only to do a popular search of shutterstock and start copying.
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Freepik, please answer my questions. Why should it be up to us to find the images that are being downloaded thousands of times without the copyright holders consent? By the time these images are found, the person that originally made that image might of already lost a substantial amount of earnings. Please tell us how you are going to go through all your images, identify all the ones that are being used without consent and fully compensate the copyright holder. Then there's the problem with your designers making images that are very similar to other people's work instead of doing their own work. How do you justify that? Why would any sensible person here want to collaborate with a site that is doing that?
I’m answering you, sharpshot:
We make an exhaustive analysis of the resources created exclusively for us. It isn’t your labor, but ours. We do it, but it’s inevitable that some go unnoticed. This not only happens in Freepik but in all image banks. We are victims of copy in many occasions.
At the moment the the plagiarism is detected, we delete the content immediately. The affected author can contact us ([email protected] or [email protected]). We deeply investigate the case and compensate the author if necessary.
We don’t order similar designs, and if there is any plagiarism is because we have been deceived for the designer.
With other image banks, there is a good chance that the images on the site without consent can be removed before a license has been purchased by a customer. On your site, they have already been downloaded thousands of times, so there's really no comparison. For your model to work, you have to be sure that what you are virtually giving away has the consent of the contributor. You need to stop blaming other people, if your designers are making images that are too similar to other peoples, you are responsible for having that content on your site. Just using Google image search, you can see if they are doing their own work or have been using others for their designs.
What will your downloaders do if the copyright holders demand payments for using their images without consent? If they ask for records of who has downloaded their images without their consent, will you give it to them? You might well end up having to compensate people that have downloaded images from your site that shouldn't of been there.
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Freepik, please answer my questions. Why should it be up to us to find the images that are being downloaded thousands of times without the copyright holders consent? By the time these images are found, the person that originally made that image might of already lost a substantial amount of earnings. Please tell us how you are going to go through all your images, identify all the ones that are being used without consent and fully compensate the copyright holder. Then there's the problem with your designers making images that are very similar to other people's work instead of doing their own work. How do you justify that? Why would any sensible person here want to collaborate with a site that is doing that?
I’m answering you, sharpshot:
We make an exhaustive analysis of the resources created exclusively for us. It isn’t your labor, but ours. We do it, but it’s inevitable that some go unnoticed. This not only happens in Freepik but in all image banks. We are victims of copy in many occasions.
At the moment the the plagiarism is detected, we delete the content immediately. The affected author can contact us ([email protected] or [email protected]). We deeply investigate the case and compensate the author if necessary.
We don’t order similar designs, and if there is any plagiarism is because we have been deceived for the designer.
With other image banks, there is a good chance that the images on the site without consent can be removed before a license has been purchased by a customer. On your site, they have already been downloaded thousands of times, so there's really no comparison. For your model to work, you have to be sure that what you are virtually giving away has the consent of the contributor. You need to stop blaming other people, if your designers are making images that are too similar to other peoples, you are responsible for having that content on your site. Just using Google image search, you can see if they are doing their own work or have been using others for their designs.
What will your downloaders do if the copyright holders demand payments for using their images without consent? If they ask for records of who has downloaded their images without their consent, will you give it to them? You might well end up having to compensate people that have downloaded images from your site that shouldn't of been there.
Well said...you are doing them a favor educating them here, sharpshot! I salute you.
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Freepik, please answer my questions. Why should it be up to us to find the images that are being downloaded thousands of times without the copyright holders consent? By the time these images are found, the person that originally made that image might of already lost a substantial amount of earnings. Please tell us how you are going to go through all your images, identify all the ones that are being used without consent and fully compensate the copyright holder. Then there's the problem with your designers making images that are very similar to other people's work instead of doing their own work. How do you justify that? Why would any sensible person here want to collaborate with a site that is doing that?
I’m answering you, sharpshot:
We make an exhaustive analysis of the resources created exclusively for us. It isn’t your labor, but ours. We do it, but it’s inevitable that some go unnoticed. This not only happens in Freepik but in all image banks. We are victims of copy in many occasions.
At the moment the the plagiarism is detected, we delete the content immediately. The affected author can contact us ([email protected] or [email protected]). We deeply investigate the case and compensate the author if necessary.
We don’t order similar designs, and if there is any plagiarism is because we have been deceived for the designer.
On many other sites when plagiarism is detected, all of the contributors submissions are deleted and the contributor is banned from the site - not just the plagiarized items. How many complete portfolios and contributors have you kicked out? Repeat offenders damage our income, damage your business, and damage the stock industry.
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ok, I found something in this forum only..
Biggest Rip Off in microstock history! Shocking finds..
http://www.microstockgroup.com/image-sleuth/biggest-rip-off-in-microstock-history!-shocking-finds/ (http://www.microstockgroup.com/image-sleuth/biggest-rip-off-in-microstock-history!-shocking-finds/)
Guess what, they were banned immediately. Do you guys at freepik has to say something??
I think you guys are now biggest rip-offs
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Freepik, please answer my questions. Why should it be up to us to find the images that are being downloaded thousands of times without the copyright holders consent? By the time these images are found, the person that originally made that image might of already lost a substantial amount of earnings. Please tell us how you are going to go through all your images, identify all the ones that are being used without consent and fully compensate the copyright holder. Then there's the problem with your designers making images that are very similar to other people's work instead of doing their own work. How do you justify that? Why would any sensible person here want to collaborate with a site that is doing that?
I’m answering you, sharpshot:
We make an exhaustive analysis of the resources created exclusively for us. It isn’t your labor, but ours. We do it, but it’s inevitable that some go unnoticed. This not only happens in Freepik but in all image banks. We are victims of copy in many occasions.
At the moment the the plagiarism is detected, we delete the content immediately. The affected author can contact us ([email protected] or [email protected]). We deeply investigate the case and compensate the author if necessary.
We don’t order similar designs, and if there is any plagiarism is because we have been deceived for the designer.
Really? I would think that if this were true you might have five illustrations on your site. There has been enough "facts" laid out here that you could walk from California to Hawaii on them without getting wet. In the remote chance that you are trying to be sincere (as opposed to dodging a problem you really refuse to address) then your systems are horrible. I hope Shutterstock takes a real hard look at your model and realizes what they are really supporting. NO MATTER how you slice it, whether it's intentional or not, your model breeds copyright violation big time.
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Hi,
We just wanted to personally respond to comments, to meet you, to know how could we collaborate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekQ_Ja02gTY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekQ_Ja02gTY)
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Hi Freepik,
I am new on the stock images sites...
Please let me know... can i upload my shutterstock/any similar stock images site portfolio to freepik?
If I upload my shutterstock portfolio on freepik than shutterstock have any issue?
Regards
Khurram Khan
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Freepik, please answer my questions. Why should it be up to us to find the images that are being downloaded thousands of times without the copyright holders consent? By the time these images are found, the person that originally made that image might of already lost a substantial amount of earnings. Please tell us how you are going to go through all your images, identify all the ones that are being used without consent and fully compensate the copyright holder. Then there's the problem with your designers making images that are very similar to other people's work instead of doing their own work. How do you justify that? Why would any sensible person here want to collaborate with a site that is doing that?
I’m answering you, sharpshot:
We make an exhaustive analysis of the resources created exclusively for us. It isn’t your labor, but ours. We do it, but it’s inevitable that some go unnoticed. This not only happens in Freepik but in all image banks. We are victims of copy in many occasions.
At the moment the the plagiarism is detected, we delete the content immediately. The affected author can contact us ([email protected] or [email protected]). We deeply investigate the case and compensate the author if necessary.
We don’t order similar designs, and if there is any plagiarism is because we have been deceived for the designer.
Really? I would think that if this were true you might have five illustrations on your site. There has been enough "facts" laid out here that you could walk from California to Hawaii on them without getting wet. In the remote chance that you are trying to be sincere (as opposed to dodging a problem you really refuse to address) then your systems are horrible. I hope Shutterstock takes a real hard look at your model and realizes what they are really supporting. NO MATTER how you slice it, whether it's intentional or not, your model breeds copyright violation big time.
Well, now that this thread's been resurrected, I'm still waiting on that compensation for all the images you stole from me, Blanes, and placed on your site. They got thousands of free downloads.
Shutterstock must have sent you a very stern letter...I'm having a hard time finding my stolen work on your site now. Though you're still copying other people, of course.
Not sure why anyone would be interested in working with you. And it's their very first post here. Hmmm. Seems a bit fishy.
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Hi Freepik,
I am new on the stock images sites...
Please let me know... can i upload my shutterstock/any similar stock images site portfolio to freepik?
If I upload my shutterstock portfolio on freepik than shutterstock have any issue?
Regards
Khurram Khan
READ THIS THREAD. (The title alone should have rung loud warning bells.)
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You would have to be mad to be selling the same work on ss and giving it away on another site. Your customers are going to be so angry when they find the same work they paid for for free elsewhere.