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« on: March 11, 2014, 11:43 »
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http://designtaxi.com/news/364284/Photographer-Makes-US-15-000-In-Just-One-Day-By-Selling-Prints-On-Instagram/

Interesting article. I wonder how true it is. And did he have model releases?


« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2014, 11:47 »
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... I wonder how true it is.

One thing for sure - good marketing for Inst...  ;D

« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2014, 11:57 »
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this needs to be a joke/marketing campaign, not judging his work but I don't see anything beside outdoor snaps of people, ok with a few interesting ones in the middle, not to mention he didn't decided to sell prints from one day to another, nobody gets 380k followers in a day unless you are Rihanna

regarding releases I am sure a big fat zero, anyway we are the only guys concerned about that once we are stock photographers, FAA is a mess regarding this as well, again nobody cares, life goes on until someone complains, after that he removes that picture but the other will continue to show up and "selling"
« Last Edit: March 11, 2014, 12:00 by luissantos84 »

« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2014, 11:58 »
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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2014, 12:01 »
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this needs to be a joke/marketing campaign, not judging his work but I don't see anything beside outdoor snaps of people, ok with a few interesting ones in the middle, not to mention he didn't decided to sell prints from one day to another, nobody gets 380k followers in a day unless you are Rihanna

regarding releases I am sure a big fat zero, anyway we are the only guys concerned about that once we are stock photographers, FAA is a mess regarding this as well, again nobody cares, life goes on until someone complains, after that he remove that picture but the other will continue to show up and "selling"
You need releases to sell art prints?

I will rephrase: can you take a picture of a person in public and sell it commercially? (editorial you can)

Ron

« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2014, 12:16 »
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You dont need releases for POD.


But I think Luis is right, its a hoax, just create a buzz and everyone will start dumping their files on Instagram.

Uncle Pete

« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2014, 12:25 »
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One day special, he has an established collection. Tomorrow he's back to toast and water and cheap low price sales. It's all a bunch of hype.

Remember the updated terms of Instagram Agreement: "To help us deliver interesting paid or sponsored content or promotions, you agree that a business or other entity may pay us to display your username, likeness, photos (along with any associated metadata), and/or actions you take, in connection with paid or sponsored content or promotions, without any compensation to you," (my emphasis) Which turned out to be clearing up the fact that they could already do this, and it was just spelled out in plain English.

Instagrid.me (a 40,000 member and counting site which creates a space for Instagram galleries)will pair advertisers with influential Instagrammers, giving them incentives to feature brand-related photos in their streams. Down for construction...

and finally the answer:

With a few clicks, artists and photographers can import their Instagram photos to Instaprints.com and sell framed prints, canvas prints, greeting cards, and more to a global audience of art collectors.

http://instaprints.com/ take a look. Does this remind anyone of FAA. OK is there anyone who doesn't see the resemblance to FAA?  :)

Oh and the real story: "Hello, I just turned 34 this second. For one day only I am selling 46 prints of whatever you want from my Instagram archive for $150 each. I swear I will never sell anything this cheap again. If youre interested, send a screenshot of the photo(s) of your choice to (email removed by me) and I will send a paypal invoice, followed by a signed print. Easy peasy. Happy my birthday. I love you"

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2014/03/07/this-photographer-made-15k-in-one-day-on-instagram/

22,000 followers and more than 1,300 photos in his stream. "Been looking for photo work but in its absence i spend most days walking around the city taking photos (iphone and 35mm) for up to 8hrs a day. His mode is what you might call humanist urban voyeurism: street scenes, faces on the subway, people having un-self-conscious moments.

« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2014, 12:31 »
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who told you that Ron? FAA moderator? a lawyer? FAA doesnt know anything about this, they enjoy the risk of staying borderline, actually they might dump us all the responsabilities, how would you feel if I was seling prints of you without your consentement?

creepy subway 'photographer'

http://bullettmedia.com/article/daniel-arnold/
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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2014, 13:07 »
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Ron

« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2014, 13:10 »
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who told you that Ron? FAA moderator? a lawyer? FAA doesnt know anything about this, they enjoy the risk of staying borderline, actually they might dump us all the responsabilities, how would you feel if I was seling prints of you without your consentement?

creepy subway 'photographer'

http://bullettmedia.com/article/daniel-arnold/


Who is talking about reselling?

I dont need a release for my own work to sell as print. I can take a photo of a Ferrari and sell it on FAA without any issues.

And yes, I spoke to a person who is an advisor on copyrights.

« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2014, 13:25 »
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No, you don't need releases for "art prints".

http://petapixel.com/2013/05/16/new-yorkers-upset-over-photographers-secret-snaps-through-their-windows/


Daniel's pictures have fully visible faces so he may have some issues, curiously he is friend of the forbes article writer

FAA isnt just fine art, they are also selling greeting cards and iPhone cases, same goes with Zazzle, Cafepress etc

in fact you can sell prints of people in ny acordding to a law, that doesnt mean the all world follow that same law

Ron

« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2014, 13:30 »
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No, you dont need releases for people either.  As Sean pointed out as well.

« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2014, 13:30 »
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who told you that Ron? FAA moderator? a lawyer? FAA doesnt know anything about this, they enjoy the risk of staying borderline, actually they might dump us all the responsabilities, how would you feel if I was seling prints of you without your consentement?

creepy subway 'photographer'

http://bullettmedia.com/article/daniel-arnold/


Who is talking about reselling?

I dont need a release for my own work to sell as print. I can take a photo of a Ferrari and sell it on FAA without any issues.

And yes, I spoke to a person who is an advisor on copyrights.


plate numbers as well? selling pictures of my neighbor car doesnt look good I guess

selling a person elbow might be ok, the face is another thing

Ron

« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2014, 13:31 »
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Its not like stock, its completely different, you are not selling licences, you are selling prints. You dont need a release for that.

I am selling my Skylines with logos et all, I am selling images with people, I am selling branded stuff, all without any releases, and its all ok. I know in Holland it is for sure.

« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2014, 13:33 »
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an iPhone case isn't a print

Ron

« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2014, 13:52 »
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How is it not?

Uncle Pete

« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2014, 14:00 »
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OK Boys, settle down.  ::)

Anyone want to discuss that he didn't Sell Prints on Instagram? The subject and the article are somewhat misleading. And the facts are slightly different.


creepy subway 'photographer'

http://bullettmedia.com/article/daniel-arnold/


Yeah that kind of covers his version of "street photographer".


He asked people for money and offered to sell prints of images that were hosted ON Instagram. He wasn't selling prints "on Instagram". I know it's the same words, just a different meaning.

Whatever, good for him. Yesterdays news. Glad he could finance his artistic expression and social voyeurism. He'd probably think that taking photos of cars, motorcycles or racing is dull and lacks any interesting shots. To each their own.


« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2014, 14:10 »
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How is it not?

I see a print as something you hang up on the wall, oh what . do I know when you guys are all fine art artists right?

into the next 15k $ selling other people faces as fine art

can we sell people eating inside a restaurant? Daniel can so its all good!

Ron

« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2014, 14:17 »
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No need to get upset Luis, its just a discussion. All I know is you dont need a release for prints. If you say you do, thats fine. I am not taking my stuff down. I have gotten advice about it, and its ok what I am doing. YMMV.

« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2014, 14:18 »
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No need to get upset Luis, its just a discussion. All I know is you dont need a release for prints. If you say you do, thats fine. I am not taking my stuff down. I have gotten advice about it, and its ok what I am doing. YMMV.

even on a private place?


« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2014, 14:28 »
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No need to get upset Luis, its just a discussion. All I know is you dont need a release for prints. If you say you do, thats fine. I am not taking my stuff down. I have gotten advice about it, and its ok what I am doing. YMMV.

even on a private place?

No, you don't need a release for prints, art or not, cases or posters or plates.

« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2014, 14:32 »
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So, if you're in a bar, or in an amusement park, or touring a winery, you are allowed to take pictures unless you're told not to while you're there. And if you do take pictures, you can sell them to any buyer willing to assume the risk, if any exists.

from Dan Heller

« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2014, 14:34 »
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No need to get upset Luis, its just a discussion. All I know is you dont need a release for prints. If you say you do, thats fine. I am not taking my stuff down. I have gotten advice about it, and its ok what I am doing. YMMV.

even on a private place?

No, you don't need a release for prints, art or not, cases or posters or plates.

would you remove it if the person asked you?

« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2014, 14:38 »
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Well, I don't do that, because I don't want to deal with it, but obviously the creepy NY window guy has no issues.


 

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