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Title: Photos purchased on multiple sites
Post by: sbonk on February 16, 2007, 20:35
This may be a strange question/comment. I find that sometimes I get photos that are rarely downloaded or in some cases never downloaded suddenly purchased on more than 1 site on the same day. Sometimes 2 sites, sometimes 3 sites. I guess my question is: Can downloading the same photo from multiple sites actually act as a type of extended license? They would be additive, right?
Title: Re: Photos purchased on multiple sites
Post by: epixx on February 16, 2007, 21:51
I've had the same thing happening to me a couple of times, but I suspect it's pure coincidence.
Title: Re: Photos purchased on multiple sites
Post by: GeoPappas on February 17, 2007, 07:18
This may be a strange question/comment. I find that sometimes I get photos that are rarely downloaded or in some cases never downloaded suddenly purchased on more than 1 site on the same day. Sometimes 2 sites, sometimes 3 sites.

I have had the same thing happen, but can't figure out why it happens besides that it is a random event of some kind.

I guess my question is: Can downloading the same photo from multiple sites actually act as a type of extended license? They would be additive, right?

Extended licenses are generally used for resale of an image on another item, such as a t-shirt, mug, mouse pad, etc.  So, no it is not the same.
Title: Re: Photos purchased on multiple sites
Post by: madelaide on February 17, 2007, 11:21
It happened to me a couple of times.  It was said here before (I don't remember who said) that sometimes people buy from different sources because the sites do different things when downsizing the images, so they may look better in one site than another.

Regards,
Adelaide
Title: Re: Photos purchased on multiple sites
Post by: GeoPappas on February 17, 2007, 12:04
It was said here before (I don't remember who said) that sometimes people buy from different sources because the sites do different things when downsizing the images, so they may look better in one site than another.

I would think that it would be cheaper to buy the original (large) size, then purchase credits from multiple sites and download different versions.
Title: Re: Photos purchased on multiple sites
Post by: madelaide on February 17, 2007, 14:46
Maybe the original is perhaps edited?  Well, I don't know, this is what someone else said.  As long as they're buying, I don't mind.  :)

Regards,
Adelaide
Title: Re: Photos purchased on multiple sites
Post by: PenelopeB on February 17, 2007, 20:50
Funny... I was going to post this same question as this happens to me all the time.

Personally? I think that it is tricky way to avoid paying for extra print runs etc.

This happens at least 3 or 4 times a week.  If reported, can admins do anything about it?
Title: Re: Photos purchased on multiple sites
Post by: CJPhoto on February 19, 2007, 06:24
This happens at least 3 or 4 times a week.  If reported, can admins do anything about it?
Report what - someone buying your photos.  have you found anyone using your photos without the correct license.

the only advantage in buying from multiple sites is that they hope an agency wont put in any effort if they show they bought it from elsewhere (even with an incorrect license - ie. we are ripping someone off but it isn't your company so you cant sue us.).
Title: Re: Photos purchased on multiple sites
Post by: photovan on February 22, 2007, 10:32
Someone once bought the same image from me on Fotolia in two different sizes.  Why not just buy the bigger size and downsize?

If other sites besides Fotolia told you who bought the images, it might be easier to resolve issues like the one posted here about an image being used in a newspaper with a huge circulation.

Of course, some of the licenses give ridiculously high limits, like one million.  There isn't a magazine in the US with a circulation of one million.
Title: Re: Photos purchased on multiple sites
Post by: GeoPappas on February 22, 2007, 10:56
Of course, some of the licenses give ridiculously high limits, like one million.  There isn't a magazine in the US with a circulation of one million.


I agree that a million copies is too high for an Extended License.  It should be much lower.  If they have that high of a circulation, then they can afford to buy multiple copies of an Extended License.

But there are many magazines that have circulations over a million.  Here are the top 10 (as reported by http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/directories/toptens/cons_mag.jsp):

AARP Magazine: 22,200,000+
Reader's Digest: 10,200,000+
TV Guide: 9,000,000+
Better Homes & Gardens: 7,200,000+
National Geographic: 5,400,000+
Good Housekeeping: 4,600,000+
Family Circle: 4,300,000+
Ladies Home Journal: 4,100,000+
Woman's Day: 4,000,000+

There are also newspapers that have circulations over a million.
Title: Re: Photos purchased on multiple sites
Post by: madelaide on February 22, 2007, 15:26
Someone once bought the same image from me on Fotolia in two different sizes.  Why not just buy the bigger size and downsize?

This could be a decent buyer using the same image for two different purposes.

Regards,
Adelaide
Title: Re: Photos purchased on multiple sites
Post by: photovan on February 25, 2007, 01:52
So much for the place I looked for the numbers a couple of months ago.
Title: Re: Photos purchased on multiple sites
Post by: malamus on September 20, 2009, 14:58
I think this is more likley, god knows ive done it.

Your in a rush, getting a mag ready for print, download a file and S**T its to small, so download the bigger one, simple!!!
Title: Re: Photos purchased on multiple sites
Post by: massman on September 20, 2009, 15:13
I think this is more likley, god knows ive done it.

Your in a rush, getting a mag ready for print, download a file and S**T its to small, so download the bigger one, simple!!!

That's good info, even if the thread is well over two years old.
Title: Re: Photos purchased on multiple sites
Post by: microstockphoto.co.uk on September 20, 2009, 15:37
It was said here before (I don't remember who said) that sometimes people buy from different sources because the sites do different things when downsizing the images, so they may look better in one site than another.

this looks a possible reason;

another reason: maybe there are some trends / events that cause the same obscure picture being downloaded many times on the same day, actually by DIFFERENT people
Title: Re: Photos purchased on multiple sites
Post by: elvinstar on September 20, 2009, 15:41
I was thinking along the same lines... that maybe something in the news causes people to purchase a particular type of photo and buyers from the same area are buying from different sites.

Just be happy! It means that your photo is the best one for what they are looking for!
Title: Re: Photos purchased on multiple sites
Post by: borg on September 20, 2009, 17:47
I noticed that also...

Also I noticed something similar, when SS works good others don't and opposite...

Title: Re: Photos purchased on multiple sites
Post by: bittersweet on September 20, 2009, 18:18
Someone once bought the same image from me on Fotolia in two different sizes.  Why not just buy the bigger size and downsize?

Did they purchase the small size first or the large size first?

I often purchase the XS size in order to use for a comp (so that it doesn't have a watermark). Once the image is approved, I will go back and purchase the L size.
Title: Re: Photos purchased on multiple sites
Post by: zymmetricaldotcom on September 20, 2009, 18:29
I often purchase the XS size in order to use for a comp (so that it doesn't have a watermark). Once the image is approved, I will go back and purchase the L size.

Well there is the take-away tidbit of the week I believe on MSG. Buyers for whom the exact dollar image acquisition budget is not the key criteria but rather pleasing their own clients.
Title: Re: Photos purchased on multiple sites
Post by: bittersweet on September 20, 2009, 23:25
I often purchase the XS size in order to use for a comp (so that it doesn't have a watermark). Once the image is approved, I will go back and purchase the L size.

Well there is the take-away tidbit of the week I believe on MSG. Buyers for whom the exact dollar image acquisition budget is not the key criteria but rather pleasing their own clients.

Well, thanks. :) My role and experience as a buyer is very rarely acknowledged here.
Title: Re: Photos purchased on multiple sites
Post by: PowerDroid on September 21, 2009, 12:00
A few thoughts...

1. Regarding photos purchased on multiple sites on the same day... If we're doing our jobs right (creating images that customers will want), this should be the norm and not the exception.  I actually see my more popular pics routinely purchased on several of the sites in one day.  I never thought this was strange.

2. Regarding purchases of the same file in different sizes... I frequently see this as well, particularly on Fotolia.  I've always chalked it up to a buyer downloading it in the smallest size possible to meet his/her needs, then realizing after it's placed that he/she actually needs the next size up.  I'm guessing this is also the cause of some refunds we see taken from our accounts... I would think some of these buyers request  credits if they have to buy the same file twice for this reason, even though it's their own error.
Title: Re: Photos purchased on multiple sites
Post by: bittersweet on September 21, 2009, 14:18
2. Regarding purchases of the same file in different sizes... I frequently see this as well, particularly on Fotolia.  I've always chalked it up to a buyer downloading it in the smallest size possible to meet his/her needs, then realizing after it's placed that he/she actually needs the next size up.  I'm guessing this is also the cause of some refunds we see taken from our accounts... I would think some of these buyers request  credits if they have to buy the same file twice for this reason, even though it's their own error.

Case in point. ;)
Title: Re: Photos purchased on multiple sites
Post by: madelaide on September 21, 2009, 16:28
What about a large size purchased and little after a smaller size?  This has happened to me on a few occasions.  It could be different buyers, but given the time difference it makes me wonder.