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« on: November 02, 2020, 12:03 »
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Here's another video I created related to Stock Photography. I've been using the new Sky Replacement tool in Photoshop to bring new life to some of my stock images. If you're a Stock Contributor this new tool might help you ramp up some additional sales.

Please share your comments and feedback so I may continue to refine and create future videos.  I would also greatly appreciate if you could subscribe to my channel.

Thanks

Raul

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-9ZiQdrv0c&t=159s [nofollow]



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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2020, 09:04 »
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Strictly speaking, you are not allowed to use other people's work in your stock images and so using a sky from Photoshop or Luminar (unless it is one of your own sky pictures) is not allowed. It would be interesting to hear Matt from Adobe Stock's view on this? Although I don't know how to bring it to his attention!

Steve

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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2020, 09:47 »
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Strictly speaking, you are not allowed to use other people's work in your stock images and so using a sky from Photoshop or Luminar (unless it is one of your own sky pictures) is not allowed. It would be interesting to hear Matt from Adobe Stock's view on this? Although I don't know how to bring it to his attention!

Steve

Usually Mat chimes in when there's a relevant question here on the Adobe forum.

« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2020, 10:04 »
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Strictly speaking, you are not allowed to use other people's work in your stock images and so using a sky from Photoshop or Luminar (unless it is one of your own sky pictures) is not allowed. It would be interesting to hear Matt from Adobe Stock's view on this? Although I don't know how to bring it to his attention!

Steve

I am pretty certain that those skies are labeled for commercial reuse meaning that you can reuse a photo in any way, even commercially.

« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2020, 10:22 »
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Strictly speaking, you are not allowed to use other people's work in your stock images and so using a sky from Photoshop or Luminar (unless it is one of your own sky pictures) is not allowed. It would be interesting to hear Matt from Adobe Stock's view on this? Although I don't know how to bring it to his attention!

Steve

I am pretty certain that those skies are labeled for commercial reuse meaning that you can reuse a photo in any way, even commercially.

That isn't applicable to the stock question.  You don't have the rights so you couldn't use them in a stock submission.  You could use them to make a pamphlet or a billboard or something.

« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2020, 10:41 »
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First of all, its a great tool, It really works well, even in relatively complicated skies. I doubt using them could affect your stock images-they are hardly revolutionary examples of the sky. The main issue you would run up against is the small number of sky examples provided in PS. However if you are concerned about that there is a way of adding your own skies.

« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2020, 10:55 »
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Strictly speaking, you are not allowed to use other people's work in your stock images and so using a sky from Photoshop or Luminar (unless it is one of your own sky pictures) is not allowed. It would be interesting to hear Matt from Adobe Stock's view on this? Although I don't know how to bring it to his attention!

Steve

I am pretty certain that those skies are labeled for commercial reuse meaning that you can reuse a photo in any way, even commercially.

That isn't applicable to the stock question.  You don't have the rights so you couldn't use them in a stock submission.  You could use them to make a pamphlet or a billboard or something.

From the SS Submission and Account Guidelines:

You must own or control the copyright to all content you submit to Shutterstock. This means that you cannot submit work obtained from other sources (e.g., online image search results or websites), or incorporate such work into your content submissions, unless you have permission to do so

Therefore the restrictions are not absolute, and as I said, I am pretty certain that both Adobe and Skylum, secured those rights and permissions for their customers.

« Last Edit: November 03, 2020, 12:06 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2020, 11:45 »
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Strictly speaking, you are not allowed to use other people's work in your stock images and so using a sky from Photoshop or Luminar (unless it is one of your own sky pictures) is not allowed. It would be interesting to hear Matt from Adobe Stock's view on this? Although I don't know how to bring it to his attention!

Steve

I am pretty certain that those skies are labeled for commercial reuse meaning that you can reuse a photo in any way, even commercially.

That isn't applicable to the stock question.  You don't have the rights so you couldn't use them in a stock submission.  You could use them to make a pamphlet or a billboard or something.

From the SS Submission and Account Guidelines:

You must own or control the copyright to all content you submit to Shutterstock. This means that you cannot submit work obtained from other sources (e.g., online image search results or websites), or incorporate such work into your content submissions, unless you have permission to do so

Therefore the restrictions not absolute, and as I said, I am pretty certain that both Adobe and Skylum, secured those rights and permissions for their customers.

Admin reply from the Skylum forum to a question whether such images can be sold:
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Users can use edited photos for any purpose. All the pictures for the sky replacement are accompanied by appropriate documentation (photograph copyright license and consent agreements). So there's no copyright rights violation.
So, yes, you are allowed to use their skys for stockphotos, at least according to Skylum's rules. Not sure what's the stock agency's stance on this.

« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2020, 11:59 »
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I called Adobe and they informed me their sky images can be used for any commercial application, including stock.  I requested an official documented response outlining usage - let's see if they send anything from their legal/compliance group.  Nevertheless, I wouldn't use their images and prefer my own.

« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2020, 12:50 »
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Here is Adobe's response.  Not much legalize but of course they point you to the Adobe Stock contributor guide   :)

Dear Raul,
 
We hope you're well.We  have discussed your case with our seniors and as per them, there is no issue in using the given skies under photoshop to modify and sell the images on any online platform.
For further information please refer to the terms and conditions on adobe stock.
https://helpx.adobe.com/in/stock/contributor/user-guide.html [nofollow]
 



 
 
Thanks for working with us,
Adobe Customer Care 

« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2020, 16:51 »
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I don't know if an email would suffice as a property release.

« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2020, 18:49 »
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As it so easy to use one of your own sky images with the sky replacement feature, why spend any time (for stock uploads anyway) worrying about whether you can use the provided ones?

I was pleasantly surprised to see how well this tool works - I tried with an image that had lots of trees with bare branches to give it something to show how intricate details are handled.

It's particularly helpful that it provides results as a grouped set of masked adjustment layers, so you can refine further if you want to. Even if what you wanted was just to adjust colors and tones in the sky as shot (i.e. not replace the sky), this is an effective mask-creation tool to speed that up.

« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2020, 19:46 »
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As it so easy to use one of your own sky images with the sky replacement feature, why spend any time (for stock uploads anyway) worrying about whether you can use the provided ones?

I was pleasantly surprised to see how well this tool works - I tried with an image that had lots of trees with bare branches to give it something to show how intricate details are handled.

It's particularly helpful that it provides results as a grouped set of masked adjustment layers, so you can refine further if you want to. Even if what you wanted was just to adjust colors and tones in the sky as shot (i.e. not replace the sky), this is an effective mask-creation tool to speed that up.

I totally agree Jo Ann. During my webinar with Scott Kelby last week we spoke about this. If you use the included skies, soon enough your images will start to look very much like many other images and you lose the value of being unique. This feature is much stronger if you are using your own content. I have been playing with this Sky Replacement quite a bit and I've found it to be very effective and so easy.

-Mat

Chichikov

« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2020, 01:46 »
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I am waiting for building replacement, cat replacement, people replacement and at last photographer* replacement

* If we can continue to call him (her) a photographer

« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2020, 02:14 »
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I am waiting for building replacement, cat replacement, people replacement and at last photographer* replacement

* If we can continue to call him (her) a photographer

It already exists!
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/288024-nvidia-ai-turns-doodles-into-realistic-landscapes
or
https://generated.photos/

Cheers to the future of photography!  :-\


Chichikov

« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2020, 03:20 »
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I am waiting for building replacement, cat replacement, people replacement and at last photographer* replacement

* If we can continue to call him (her) a photographer

It already exists!
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/288024-nvidia-ai-turns-doodles-into-realistic-landscapes
or
https://generated.photos/

Cheers to the future of photography!  :-\

Yes, I know, there is also Terragen and Bryce :D

Now they are also making commercials with synthetic actors

People are becoming more and more fake every day...
The machine will win...
Then will come Sarah Connors...... and Terminator

« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2020, 17:17 »
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tried it yesterday & pleased w the results - i'd been using landscapePro which requires manual masking, but PS does a much better job - much easier auto-masking of trees, etc  (LP has additional features so still in my toolbox)


« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2020, 13:27 »
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I added some of my own skies and used them to rescue some images taken on a very gray dull trip a few years ago. The new tool does a great job.


 

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