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Title: Poll: How many photos do you submit from a model shooting?
Post by: Tror on April 30, 2014, 07:48
Just curious: How many stills do you get from a shooting with models?
Additionally: what is the approximate percentage of usable stills from a standard shooting?

Technically I meanwhile could use 80% of the raw material, but I select about 50% for uploading....
Title: Re: Poll: How many photos do you submit from a model shooting?
Post by: Beppe Grillo on April 30, 2014, 08:04
I try to not upload more than 10 - 15.

Sometime I see portfolios with full photo sessions with 100 or more images with the same subject.
I find it a little ridiculous, and from my point of view it does not even demonstrate a great professionally.
Do really those photographers posting all these images think that the customers have time to choose one photo among more than 100 of the same subject? O_o
When I work directly with customers or advertising agencies they generally ask me to chose the 10 - 20 best for them, so with microstocks I do the same.
Title: Re: Poll: How many photos do you submit from a model shooting?
Post by: Tror on April 30, 2014, 08:30
I try to not upload more than 10 - 15.

Sometime I see portfolios with full photo sessions with 100 or more images with the same subject.
I find it a little ridiculous, and from my point of view it does not even demonstrate a great professionally.
Do really those photographers posting all these images think that the customers have time to choose one photo among more than 100 of the same subject? O_o
When I work directly with customers or advertising agencies they generally ask me to chose the 10 - 20 best for them, so with microstocks I do the same.

Yeah, I am one of the ones who submits 100s, but the concepts of one shooting vary a lot! Usually I cover about 6 different subjects in a "storyboard" of one shoot.

But I get what you mean. I highly respect people like you who can edit so harshly. I could not. I wonder if economically it really gives the appropriate return for one shoot. I would be afraid that my 10 images get simply buried in the databases.
Title: Re: Poll: How many photos do you submit from a model shooting?
Post by: Shelma1 on April 30, 2014, 08:57
I try to not upload more than 10 - 15.

Sometime I see portfolios with full photo sessions with 100 or more images with the same subject.
I find it a little ridiculous, and from my point of view it does not even demonstrate a great professionally.
Do really those photographers posting all these images think that the customers have time to choose one photo among more than 100 of the same subject? O_o
When I work directly with customers or advertising agencies they generally ask me to chose the 10 - 20 best for them, so with microstocks I do the same.

I guess it depends on the customer. In the old days we would get contact sheets of hundreds of photos from a shoot and the art director would spend half the day going through everything with a loupe before presenting a few shots to the client. So some customers are accustomed to seeing a wide variety of images from one shoot.
Title: Re: Poll: How many photos do you submit from a model shooting?
Post by: Beppe Grillo on April 30, 2014, 09:33
I would be afraid that my 10 images get simply buried in the databases.

No, they are buried among the 90 other of the series :D
Title: Re: Poll: How many photos do you submit from a model shooting?
Post by: gostwyck on April 30, 2014, 09:36
I try to not upload more than 10 - 15.

Sometime I see portfolios with full photo sessions with 100 or more images with the same subject.
I find it a little ridiculous, and from my point of view it does not even demonstrate a great professionally.
Do really those photographers posting all these images think that the customers have time to choose one photo among more than 100 of the same subject? O_o
When I work directly with customers or advertising agencies they generally ask me to chose the 10 - 20 best for them, so with microstocks I do the same.

Yeah, I am one of the ones who submits 100s, but the concepts of one shooting vary a lot! Usually I cover about 6 different subjects in a "storyboard" of one shoot.

But I get what you mean. I highly respect people like you who can edit so harshly. I could not. I wonder if economically it really gives the appropriate return for one shoot. I would be afraid that my 10 images get simply buried in the databases.

I just can't imagine that it can be worth your time and effort to process, keyword and upload so many similar images from the same shoot. I was quite surprised that your survey started with 'up to 50 shots'. I'd have thought that to be a maximum.

You should be able to tell the good, the bad and the indifferent from a shoot. Then you can concentrate your time editing the images that matter. Having similar images can also damage your income as downloads may be spread between them so that none of  the images attain good placement in the default sort order.

I shoot food and I can easily take 150 shots of the same plate. It's rare for me to upload more than 4 or 5 images of that shoot though. Any more would likely waste my time and damage the long-term potential of the images.
Title: Re: Poll: How many photos do you submit from a model shooting?
Post by: Tror on April 30, 2014, 09:53
Mmmm...I see...I started the other poll about the different subjects to see if you all identify one session with one subject, which seems to be the case. I get a higher number because I easily change the models cloth e.g. three or four times in one session, cover in one hour in one location a kitchen scene and then proceeding to the living getting another concept, then proceeding etc.

I guess the workflows are very different. Of one subject I usually get anything between 3 and 15 variations, depending too on the expression and context of the model(s).

Title: Re: Poll: How many photos do you submit from a model shooting?
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on April 30, 2014, 10:21
Just curious: How many stills do you get from a shooting with models?
Additionally: what is the approximate percentage of usable stills from a standard shooting?

It all depends on the models, the length of the shoot, the different themes, the uniqueness of series within a theme, etc.
Title: Re: Poll: How many photos do you submit from a model shooting?
Post by: lisafx on April 30, 2014, 10:51
It's one thing if you are shooting food or objects.  Quite another if you are shooting people and you have changes in clothing, shoot some in studio and some in real life situation or outdoors, etc. 

My shoots last for 5-6 hours typically and can encompass up to a dozen concepts with multiple wardrobe/prop/location changes and combinations of models.  My average number of shots for a day of shooting is 600-800 and I eventually upload 100-150. 
Title: Re: Poll: How many photos do you submit from a model shooting?
Post by: JPSDK on May 01, 2014, 00:23
isnt the starting point a bit high?
I often shoot 3-4-500 photos of a model, and only upload maybe 5 or less.

I know, thats me, Im not good at it, and the images dont sell much.