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Poll - How much gross income did you earn doing stock in 2015 for all agencies, for all file formats?  

$1-$500
32 (13.6%)
$500-$1000
10 (4.3%)
$1000-$5000
48 (20.4%)
$5000-$10,000
34 (14.5%)
$10,000-$20,000
36 (15.3%)
$20,000-$40,000
26 (11.1%)
$40,000-$60,000
19 (8.1%)
$60,000-$80,000
6 (2.6%)
$80,000-$100,000
6 (2.6%)
$100,000-$150,000
4 (1.7%)
$150,000-$200,000
2 (0.9%)
$200,000-$250,000
4 (1.7%)
$250,000-$500,000
2 (0.9%)
> $500,000
4 (1.7%)
> $1,000,000
2 (0.9%)
> $1,000,000,000
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 229

Author Topic: Poll - How much gross income did you earn doing stock in 2015?  (Read 10454 times)

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Shelma1

« Reply #25 on: February 29, 2016, 12:04 »
0
Comparing the number of my most popular images, and how that translates into earnings, to the top vector artist's, I'd say he/she is definitely making over a million a yearand since photography is even more popular, there are undoubtedly several photographers making more than that. Images factories as well.


Rose Tinted Glasses

« Reply #26 on: February 29, 2016, 12:14 »
+1
I earned approximately - none of your business and what a stupid nosy invading question. Okay now that is out of the way and I have vented, I earned between $0 and $1,000,000. Now I will get all the doubters this forum thrives on and they will ask me to see my portfolio to prove it.

« Reply #27 on: February 29, 2016, 12:31 »
+1
40K is quite achievable, even in 2016. 2015 was my first year in Microstock and I see that number as being very achievable in a year or 2.

Here's the problem... it may look achievable today based on your RPI, RPD or however you're measuring and projecting your output and expected revenue.

But tomorrow will be vastly different.  In a year or two, there may be two or three times as many competing images at the agencies as there are today.  Unless you're doubling or tripling your own port size every year, there's no hope at maintaining growth in revenue at the rate you're growing it today.

It's known as "the Wall" and it used to hit microstockers after several years, but at the current pace of growth of supply at the agencies, even rookies are seeing "the Wall" come down very quickly after starting their own ports. 

It's all a numbers game, and it's one we simply can't win.

I agree, so lets all stop making new content now.

« Reply #28 on: February 29, 2016, 12:32 »
0
I earned approximately - none of your business and what a stupid nosy invading question. Okay now that is out of the way and I have vented, I earned between $0 and $1,000,000. Now I will get all the doubters this forum thrives on and they will ask me to see my portfolio to prove it.

Great answer

« Reply #29 on: February 29, 2016, 13:20 »
+6
I earned approximately - none of your business and what a stupid nosy invading question. Okay now that is out of the way and I have vented, I earned between $0 and $1,000,000. Now I will get all the doubters this forum thrives on and they will ask me to see my portfolio to prove it.

You've revealed too much. Now, we know you're not one of the ones over $1 million. :D

« Reply #30 on: February 29, 2016, 13:44 »
+2
Let's be real...we all know there are people that come here and EXAGGERATE...I think the # of exaggerators here and the numbers on the poll run parallel.

Why is it that the contributors that usually come here are complaining about how they aren't making any sales, but post a poll with sales over $50,000 and all of a sudden there are a bunch of contributors coming here to vote in the poll and who are close to being millionaires!

I certainly don't put much stock (pardon the pun) in the poll, but it is amusing.  :D

Just call me a doubting Thomas. But in reality, it doesn't matter what I think, because no one here is going to prove what they say anyway. Including me!
 
« Last Edit: February 29, 2016, 13:49 by cathyslife »

« Reply #31 on: February 29, 2016, 13:59 »
+2
I notice no one has ticked the Billion  box yet only a matter of time........

« Reply #32 on: February 29, 2016, 14:22 »
+2
I notice no one has ticked the Billion  box yet only a matter of time........

Yeah, if I hadn't already voted, I would have done it.  :D

« Reply #33 on: February 29, 2016, 15:15 »
+2
Can you please add over 2 billion option

« Reply #34 on: February 29, 2016, 15:47 »
+1

Why is it that the contributors that usually come here are complaining about how they aren't making any sales, but post a poll with sales over $50,000 and all of a sudden there are a bunch of contributors coming here to vote in the poll and who are close to being millionaires!


If you made 150k 3-4 years ago and now you are down to 50k and dropping, that would be something to complain about.  I think that or a similar scenario accounts for alot of the full timers or former full timers who are complaining.

Hongover

« Reply #35 on: February 29, 2016, 17:20 »
0
40K is quite achievable, even in 2016. 2015 was my first year in Microstock and I see that number as being very achievable in a year or 2.

Here's the problem... it may look achievable today based on your RPI, RPD or however you're measuring and projecting your output and expected revenue.

But tomorrow will be vastly different.  In a year or two, there may be two or three times as many competing images at the agencies as there are today.  Unless you're doubling or tripling your own port size every year, there's no hope at maintaining growth in revenue at the rate you're growing it today.

It's known as "the Wall" and it used to hit microstockers after several years, but at the current pace of growth of supply at the agencies, even rookies are seeing "the Wall" come down very quickly after starting their own ports. 

It's all a numbers game, and it's one we simply can't win.

I'm not too concerned about it. I know my own numbers and my projections are fairly conservative.

I don't see a wall in front of me...just an open field. The only thing I see is the increasing difficulty to climb the ranks on FT as you get higher and higher in the rankings.

I'm also not too concerned about competition. It's a numbers game to some people, but I see it as a Game of Thrones. Let people upload their images. Without the right skillset and proper knowledge of the realm, it's as good as throwing images into the shivering sea and getting lost in it. In the end, only those who understand how to rise from the chaos will be the ones left standing.
« Last Edit: February 29, 2016, 17:34 by Minscer »

« Reply #36 on: February 29, 2016, 18:57 »
0
Doesn't Leaf do a survey every year?

Thought so.  http://blog.microstockgroup.com/2014-microstock-industry-survey-first-look/

What is your top grossing agency?



This year the results will change. People who couldn't get accepted for SS, and had DP, 123RF or Canstock as their top agency might finally be on SS.

« Reply #37 on: February 29, 2016, 19:23 »
+5
"I don't see a wall in front of me...just an open field."

Ah, bliss.

« Reply #38 on: February 29, 2016, 19:37 »
+6
40K is quite achievable, even in 2016. 2015 was my first year in Microstock and I see that number as being very achievable in a year or 2.

Here's the problem... it may look achievable today based on your RPI, RPD or however you're measuring and projecting your output and expected revenue.

But tomorrow will be vastly different.  In a year or two, there may be two or three times as many competing images at the agencies as there are today.  Unless you're doubling or tripling your own port size every year, there's no hope at maintaining growth in revenue at the rate you're growing it today.

It's known as "the Wall" and it used to hit microstockers after several years, but at the current pace of growth of supply at the agencies, even rookies are seeing "the Wall" come down very quickly after starting their own ports. 

It's all a numbers game, and it's one we simply can't win.

I'm not too concerned about it. I know my own numbers and my projections are fairly conservative.

I don't see a wall in front of me...just an open field. The only thing I see is the increasing difficulty to climb the ranks on FT as you get higher and higher in the rankings.

I'm also not too concerned about competition. It's a numbers game to some people, but I see it as a Game of Thrones. Let people upload their images. Without the right skillset and proper knowledge of the realm, it's as good as throwing images into the shivering sea and getting lost in it. In the end, only those who understand how to rise from the chaos will be the ones left standing.

Ah, memories. I remember saying nearly your exact words several years ago here.  I wasn't concerned about the wall. I was going to beat it, too.  I had figured out niches.  I figured I was better than most of the people coming in to microstock. 

And I probably was for a while.  But a perfect storm hit me: an influx of high-quality microstockers doing work on similar themes and styles to my own, as well as uninspired copycats who figured out how well my stuff sold and blatantly started ripping me off, plus the exponential growth of the agency collections that I had no hope of keeping up with.  Suddenly the smug "what wall?" grin was wiped from my face.

You can tell yourself it won't happen to you, just like I did.  But eventually reality catches up with us all.
« Last Edit: February 29, 2016, 19:41 by stockmarketer »

Hongover

« Reply #39 on: February 29, 2016, 20:22 »
+1
Ah, memories. I remember saying nearly your exact words several years ago here.  I wasn't concerned about the wall. I was going to beat it, too.  I had figured out niches.  I figured I was better than most of the people coming in to microstock. 

And I probably was for a while.  But a perfect storm hit me: an influx of high-quality microstockers doing work on similar themes and styles to my own, as well as uninspired copycats who figured out how well my stuff sold and blatantly started ripping me off, plus the exponential growth of the agency collections that I had no hope of keeping up with.  Suddenly the smug "what wall?" grin was wiped from my face.

You can tell yourself it won't happen to you, just like I did.  But eventually reality catches up with us all.

I have plenty of competition. Anyone who say they don't is lying. I don't try to find a niche for myself constantly, because niches will shrink over time. When it shrinks, you're left with very little. I compete in popular categories and if I find my way to the 1st page in those categories, I'm set and those images will get downloads for years to come.

We don't think alike...not even the slightest. I don't mind competition. It's pointless to rip off my work off because I already have enough competitors. My competitors already know how well it sells, so what's left for them to rip off?

I was at the heart of 2 recessions, lost my job twice in industries that collapsed and you're going to tell me I don't know reality? There is nothing Microstock has that I haven't already seen.

« Reply #40 on: February 29, 2016, 20:26 »
+1
You must be one of the two persons making over a million!

« Reply #41 on: February 29, 2016, 20:45 »
+11
"popular categories and if I find my way to the 1st page in those categories, I'm set and those images will get downloads for years to come."

Or until the search changes next week, lol.


Hongover

« Reply #42 on: February 29, 2016, 21:11 »
+1
You must be one of the two persons making over a million!

Yes, over 1 million Chilean pesos.  :)

« Reply #43 on: February 29, 2016, 21:23 »
+1
Oh SNAP! Was this poll supposed to be in US dollars? I thought it was in Zimbabwe dollars.

I convert all of my transactions to that currency because it makes me feel rich and powerful.

« Reply #44 on: February 29, 2016, 22:15 »
+5
40K is quite achievable, even in 2016. 2015 was my first year in Microstock and I see that number as being very achievable in a year or 2.

R ;D F L !!!

« Reply #45 on: February 29, 2016, 22:18 »
0
You must be one of the two persons making over a million!

Yes, over 1 million Chilean pesos.  :)
Ok. Now that explains how you are gonna make 40K in a year or 2.  L ;D L !!!

Hongover

« Reply #46 on: February 29, 2016, 22:33 »
0
You must be one of the two persons making over a million!

Yes, over 1 million Chilean pesos.  :)
Ok. Now that explains how you are gonna make 40K in a year or 2.  L ;D L !!!

It's pretty easy when I already did it.  ;D

« Reply #47 on: March 01, 2016, 01:10 »
+1
I don't mind competition. It's pointless to rip off my work off because I already have enough competitors. My competitors already know how well it sells, so what's left for them to rip off?

Then why not post a link to your work?

Hongover

« Reply #48 on: March 01, 2016, 01:44 »
+1
I don't mind competition. It's pointless to rip off my work off because I already have enough competitors. My competitors already know how well it sells, so what's left for them to rip off?

Then why not post a link to your work?

It's one thing to have competition who can look at my work, but are totally oblivious to why my images are on the 1st page. It's another to create competition with direct knowledge of my work and techniques. No, I don't have any magical sauce, but one thing I'm not keen on sharing is my search engine optimization patterns.

« Reply #49 on: March 01, 2016, 03:45 »
+4
I don't mind competition. It's pointless to rip off my work off because I already have enough competitors. My competitors already know how well it sells, so what's left for them to rip off?

Then why not post a link to your work?

It's one thing to have competition who can look at my work, but are totally oblivious to why my images are on the 1st page. It's another to create competition with direct knowledge of my work and techniques. No, I don't have any magical sauce, but one thing I'm not keen on sharing is my search engine optimization patterns.
How would you keep SEO patterns secret if you have relatively new images on the 1st page of popular searches?  People don't just make near copies of images on the 1st page, they also copy the keywords.  Then the sites or google can change everything.

I still think the best way to deal with the huge competition is to work on things most of them can't do.


 

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