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« Reply #100 on: March 22, 2019, 08:39 »
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Why do they think that giving us a title like "good news" is going to make us less angry when they're actually shafting us? They just proved that they're exactly like every other stock agency that's done the same thing.


« Reply #101 on: March 22, 2019, 11:35 »
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This is the new Pond5 terms.

If you do not enroll in the Exclusivity Program, notwithstanding section 3.b. above, you shall not set the price for an item of video Content that is higher than the lowest price for which the same (or substantially the same) Content item is offered by or on any Other Marketplace, and if we discover that the Content item is offered at a lower price by or on any Other Marketplace, we may change the price of your content in our marketplace.

What do you think that price is. SS has $1.50 clips now? What price is P5 looking to implement. They just did the trial (without any prior warning) of dropping prices. Do you think they have a price in mind? Do you think they will drop all nonexclusive clips drop in price overnight?

« Reply #102 on: March 22, 2019, 11:45 »
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This is the new Pond5 terms.

If you do not enroll in the Exclusivity Program, notwithstanding section 3.b. above, you shall not set the price for an item of video Content that is higher than the lowest price for which the same (or substantially the same) Content item is offered by or on any Other Marketplace, and if we discover that the Content item is offered at a lower price by or on any Other Marketplace, we may change the price of your content in our marketplace.

What do you think that price is. SS has $1.50 clips now? What price is P5 looking to implement. They just did the trial (without any prior warning) of dropping prices. Do you think they have a price in mind? Do you think they will drop all nonexclusive clips drop in price overnight?

No, that would be dumb. I think it is just a way to protect themselves for say the odd contributor who has 1000's of clips say priced at $10 on envato, and then priced at $150 at Pond5.

OR - it could also be a way for them to appease customers that 'shop around'. (So you don't necessarily get "all" your clips or anything changed - just if a customer says "Hey! I just bought this clip for $150, but found it for $10 at envato!!" - then pond5 might refund the difference, and/or "price-match".

« Reply #103 on: March 22, 2019, 12:43 »
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This is the new Pond5 terms.

If you do not enroll in the Exclusivity Program, notwithstanding section 3.b. above, you shall not set the price for an item of video Content that is higher than the lowest price for which the same (or substantially the same) Content item is offered by or on any Other Marketplace, and if we discover that the Content item is offered at a lower price by or on any Other Marketplace, we may change the price of your content in our marketplace.

What do you think that price is. SS has $1.50 clips now? What price is P5 looking to implement. They just did the trial (without any prior warning) of dropping prices. Do you think they have a price in mind? Do you think they will drop all nonexclusive clips drop in price overnight?

No, that would be dumb. I think it is just a way to protect themselves for say the odd contributor who has 1000's of clips say priced at $10 on envato, and then priced at $150 at Pond5.

OR - it could also be a way for them to appease customers that 'shop around'. (So you don't necessarily get "all" your clips or anything changed - just if a customer says "Hey! I just bought this clip for $150, but found it for $10 at envato!!" - then pond5 might refund the difference, and/or "price-match".


If they are going to price-match, think of the accounting nightmare that will unleash! Lots of contributor clawbacks will start a riot!

« Reply #104 on: March 22, 2019, 12:59 »
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I think they probably "already" do it, or something similar. They just don't tell contributors about it (because this legal agreement/item gives them an out).

This is the new Pond5 terms.

If you do not enroll in the Exclusivity Program, notwithstanding section 3.b. above, you shall not set the price for an item of video Content that is higher than the lowest price for which the same (or substantially the same) Content item is offered by or on any Other Marketplace, and if we discover that the Content item is offered at a lower price by or on any Other Marketplace, we may change the price of your content in our marketplace.

What do you think that price is. SS has $1.50 clips now? What price is P5 looking to implement. They just did the trial (without any prior warning) of dropping prices. Do you think they have a price in mind? Do you think they will drop all nonexclusive clips drop in price overnight?

No, that would be dumb. I think it is just a way to protect themselves for say the odd contributor who has 1000's of clips say priced at $10 on envato, and then priced at $150 at Pond5.

OR - it could also be a way for them to appease customers that 'shop around'. (So you don't necessarily get "all" your clips or anything changed - just if a customer says "Hey! I just bought this clip for $150, but found it for $10 at envato!!" - then pond5 might refund the difference, and/or "price-match".


If they are going to price-match, think of the accounting nightmare that will unleash! Lots of contributor clawbacks will start a riot!

« Reply #105 on: March 22, 2019, 14:10 »
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Why don't they just tell us the lowest price they found across other sites, it'll also help us understand what sites are under pricing and where we can remove content from

« Reply #106 on: March 22, 2019, 14:29 »
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What they should do is kick out any stupid contributor that does this kind of practice.


No, that would be dumb. I think it is just a way to protect themselves for say the odd contributor who has 1000's of clips say priced at $10 on envato, and then priced at $150 at Pond5.

OR - it could also be a way for them to appease customers that 'shop around'. (So you don't necessarily get "all" your clips or anything changed - just if a customer says "Hey! I just bought this clip for $150, but found it for $10 at envato!!" - then pond5 might refund the difference, and/or "price-match".
« Last Edit: March 22, 2019, 14:32 by everest »

« Reply #107 on: March 22, 2019, 15:17 »
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Why don't they just tell us the lowest price they found across other sites, it'll also help us understand what sites are under pricing and where we can remove content from

Shutterstock: $179/4K & $79/HD
Adobe: $200/4K & $80/HD
Storyblocks: $199/4K & $79/HD
iStock" $50/4K & $50/HD

Bottom Line: Now is a smart time to delete your clips from iStock.

« Reply #108 on: March 22, 2019, 15:24 »
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You can now create an Exclusive Account with Pond5 and not have to delete your files! I told you this would work out. Just created mine as CraftedShutterExclusive

« Reply #109 on: March 22, 2019, 15:26 »
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You can now create an Exclusive Account with Pond5 and not have to delete your files! I told you this would work out. Just created mine as CraftedShutterExclusive
Anymore details on that?

« Reply #110 on: March 22, 2019, 15:33 »
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Dear Community,

Wed like to thank everyone who took the time to contact us and share their thoughts. We truly value your feedback and will continue to look to our artist community for input on how we can best accomplish our mission to help you earn more.

Weve had a lot of feedback over the last 24 hours. Our goal with the Video Exclusivity Program is to accomplish one thing: maximizing the value of your work by making it harder for buyers to shop around to negotiate the lowest price.

Two clear themes have emerged from your feedback:

- I agree the industry is heading for a race to the bottom, but some portion of my income comes from other sites and I dont want to lose it.
- I'd be willing to go exclusive for my future video content if I could still list my older footage on competitive marketplaces.

We hear you loud and clear. While the best way for you to preserve the value of your work and receive the most benefit is to become a Pond5 Exclusive Video Artist, if you wish to have only selected content (especially new content) listed exclusively with Pond5, you can do so by creating a new, separate account.

The new Exclusive account will benefit from the higher royalty rate (starting April 8), as well as the additional promotion, sales, and marketing associated with our Exclusivity Program. Please note that once you create your new account, you will need to enroll it in the Video Exclusivity Program by going to the Exclusive Artist page.

In the meantime, please continue to reach out to us with any additional feedback or questions about this program at exclusive@pond5.com.

All the best,

The Pond5 Team

« Reply #111 on: March 22, 2019, 15:36 »
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That's a little confusing are they saying you have to stop contributing to other sites and all new content has to go exclusively to P5 or can you keep uploading to your other accounts?

« Reply #112 on: March 22, 2019, 15:38 »
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They can't police that so basically it is file exclusive

« Reply #113 on: March 22, 2019, 15:43 »
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They can't police that so basically it is file exclusive
Great all my new content is going there.

« Reply #114 on: March 22, 2019, 15:44 »
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Quote
You can now create an Exclusive Account with Pond5 and not have to delete your files! I told you this would work out. Just created mine as CraftedShutterExclusive

Not really a better deal, same thing.

They want fresh exclusive content.
Guess they do not care if I am "user" or "user exclusive"
Older files didn't seem to be the major problem or catch.
Deletion would only work for people with small ports anyway.

No trouble to kill 170 + 160 clips elsewhere in order to have the
chance to price to my will and get a better percentage.

:)

« Reply #115 on: March 22, 2019, 15:44 »
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Yep mine as well :-)

« Reply #116 on: March 22, 2019, 16:52 »
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So I can have two accounts, one for exclusive content, one for non exclusive content?


« Reply #117 on: March 22, 2019, 16:59 »
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Basically yes that is correct!

« Reply #118 on: March 22, 2019, 17:02 »
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That's better.

I will give it a try.

« Reply #119 on: March 22, 2019, 17:08 »
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I am thrilled with this offer! I remember the days I was iStock Exclusive and loved it. I am so happy to have a place that pays fair for my hard work! I will be focusing my full energy on my new exclusive content now!

« Reply #120 on: March 22, 2019, 17:12 »
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This is a good idea.

But they should then limit these new accounts to video only, otherwise you again get mixed media that is an exclusive non exclusive mix.

Or they decide you can have a second all exclusive account, and include photos, audio etc...again for 60%.


I think they should take some time to work on the details and get back to their IT department.

But having new exclusive accounts would be something new, most other places you have mixed accounts.

I think this is a much cleaner solution.

It also gives artists the option to have maybe a specliazed theme to build around for their exclusive content.

« Reply #121 on: March 22, 2019, 17:24 »
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If we create a new exclusive account, will we still be able to upload new, non similar files to Pond 5 or other agencies?
I guess we could as the new account will be different to the old one, or not?

« Reply #122 on: March 22, 2019, 17:34 »
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just increased all my video prices by 33%, they can fack off

« Reply #123 on: March 22, 2019, 18:35 »
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I haven't yet recieved that e-mail... will they be posting it on their site somewhere?

« Reply #124 on: March 22, 2019, 19:59 »
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I'm still not convinced that two accounts is the way to go. I've also lost faith in P5.

Surely, the great clip you create for Pond5 Exclusive would earn more revenue over multiple distributors.


 

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