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« Reply #175 on: March 25, 2019, 23:27 »
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Curious how going exclusive on Pond5 makes financial sense for anyone. I ran the numbers on my 2018 earnings - Pond5 was slightly more than 25% of my earnings, so even at 60% commission and even if my sales at Pond5 doubled, it would still be an overall 36% loss of income to go exclusive. Not even close to making sense. Are others making so much on Pond5 compared to SS, Abobe, etc. that the math actually works?

Also don't understand when some people say they won't make their current content exclusive but they'll make their future content exclusive. If it's an overall loss to make you current content exclusive, it's going to be the same for the footage you shoot next month.


« Reply #176 on: March 26, 2019, 01:53 »
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They were very reactive and listened to us. The  possibility to have two accounts is nice.

Perhaps they didn't listen and they didn't adopt. They just copied our worries.
The Youtube stream and the emails are using contributor words and phrases.
They just used our "own" language. Not bad, not suspicious, but...

Although (especially now that) I entered the program, I am always trying to see clear.

"look dear investors / colleagues / competition, we already got {number} of new exclusive artists! yay!!!"

....will anyone check if they are double same person accounts?

:/
« Last Edit: March 26, 2019, 02:12 by georgep7 »

swisschocolate

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« Reply #177 on: March 26, 2019, 03:40 »
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They were very reactive and listened to us. The  possibility to have two accounts is nice.

Perhaps they didn't listen and they didn't adopt. They just copied our worries.
The Youtube stream and the emails are using contributor words and phrases.
They just used our "own" language. Not bad, not suspicious, but...

The speed with which they changed their decision from artist exclusive to files exclusive (in just a few hours! really?) means they didn't think through their exclusivity program at all. Nor they have technical abilities for it, nor they have an idea how they will police duplicates etc.

It all looks so desperate from both sides, from agency and from artists who are signing up.
Anyway, good luck to everyone who is willing to risk with their money.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2019, 03:45 by swisschocolate »

« Reply #178 on: March 26, 2019, 04:03 »
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Ah! Swisschocolate I don't think of myself as desperate :)

For a new account here I made many posts supporting P5.
But I don't want to be onesided in my thoughts and worries.

Actually I could make an e.g. new annap7 to my wifes profit and play in two fields
one with exclusive work as a test and one spreading rest of my files everywhere.
Not waiting or asking for a second account, to be "heard" etc.
Guess many people will have a second account even just to test the new service?
That is already a win situation for the agency presented as "roll back in our profit"

As an outsider and reading older threads here,  I see a possible pattern.

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means they didn't think through their exclusivity program at all


No one can predict a solid tactic. They run test, they experiment (we lose, I got that!)
So, the next good news  maybe will focus on those weaknesses that you correctly pointed.

And I agree that then, maybe news will be "very" good!
Then it would be the real decision point. Accepting whatever or giving the 6 months notice!

swisschocolate

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« Reply #179 on: March 26, 2019, 04:33 »
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It's not about those who will be testing here and there and see how it goes.

But those who thinks Pond5 cares about "fair" earnings (while cutting them for others) or cares about artists/theirhardwork/globalwarming/whatever and that's why they will upload "only to Pond5 from now on" - the company which is running blind experiments and changing the whole business strategy in a blink of an eye :)


 

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