Author Topic: Pond5 Rating as Mid Tier (Read 5338 times)

tab62 · « **on:** November 06, 2012, 13:52 »

Hi MSG Folks,

My sales on Pond5 are dismal to say the least. Either I am setting the price ($10) too high or don't have the pics that sell well on their site. If you could let me know what type of photos/images have been successful (general area) and what price seems to work best on your pics that would be great.

Thanks.

T

sharpshot · « **Reply #1 on:** November 06, 2012, 14:05 »

I think people must be reporting their video sales. Not sold any stills there yet.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 06, 2012, 14:28 »

Quote from: sharpshot on November 06, 2012, 14:05

I think people must be reporting their video sales. Not sold any stills there yet.

sure but I do remember a few talking about photo sales here in MSG on the thread regarding their entrance on the photos market, will see how it goes once I have my portfolio up there, from their partner with 123RF not much...

cascoly · « **Reply #3 on:** November 06, 2012, 17:22 »

i include all sales from pond5, just as i do for SS [rare] and would for 123 [never had a footage sale], and there are several other sites listed that are only footage

my pond5 image sales are still few < 10% of my footage sales there, but those image sales consistenly outperform dp, cut, yay, feature and other bottom level agencies

CD123 · « **Reply #4 on:** November 06, 2012, 17:27 »

Think this may be the other relevant thread:
http://www.microstockgroup.com/pond5/price-setting-at-pond5/msg276987/#msg276987

S. · « **Reply #5 on:** November 07, 2012, 08:18 »

I have 25 videos priced between 10$ and 30$ and almost 200 images at 4.5$.

So far I've sold 7 videos and I've been contributing since march 2012.

Will · « **Reply #6 on:** November 07, 2012, 11:34 »

Quote from: Stepunk on November 07, 2012, 08:18

I have 25 videos priced between 10$ and 30$ and almost 200 images at 4.5$.

So far I've sold 7 videos and I've been contributing since march 2012.

This is the reason microstock is in a sustained race to the bottom. Pond5 offers a marketplace where contributors can set the price and also receive a %50 royalty. Yet we have people constantly setting their price below the site average in order to undercut fellow contributors rather than compete on quality!

S. · « **Reply #7 on:** November 07, 2012, 11:39 »

actually, before setting the prices I've searched for images and videos similar to mine and I set the value on the average price of what I've found on Pond5

sharpshot · « **Reply #8 on:** November 07, 2012, 12:05 »

$10 for a video clip does seem very low and you're probably missing out on some earnings, as buyers don't seem to be concerned about paying more. As the sales volume of video is much lower than stills and clips take longer to process and upload, I don't see the point in pricing them too low.

S. · « **Reply #9 on:** November 07, 2012, 12:18 »

This is a video I had set at 10$ that sold a few times (now I've increased it at 16$ and see how it goes)
http://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/11096113/

It's really simple, nothing special. Do you think that it's fair to set the price higher?

steheap · « **Reply #10 on:** November 07, 2012, 12:24 »

I set my videos at $50 or $60 and my images at $12. The videos seems to sell OK - normally one or two a month, and the images have started to sell (I've only been there with images for 3 months or so)

Steve

Will · « **Reply #11 on:** November 07, 2012, 13:16 »

The average price of HD video clips on Pond5 is currently $64.23. In my opinion pricing anything (regardless of perceived simplicity) below $40 or $50 is shooting yourself in the foot and pulling down the overall market price for video. There are numerous producers selling quite unremarkable footage for a lot more than that. I think it's fair to price footage at whatever the market will bear. After all that's what most of the top tier agencies are doing for themselves while at the same time offering an unfairly low royalty percentage to the producer.

Pond5 isn't perfect, but at least so far it has been a fair, open and honest agency. It would be great if producers would take some responsibility in protecting the market themselves by not under pricing each other. Everybody loses when that's the case. Pond5 is offering the opportunity for photographers and video producers to improve the microstock market conditions a bit. Let's give it a chance...

sharpshot · « **Reply #12 on:** November 07, 2012, 14:40 »

Quote from: Stepunk on November 07, 2012, 12:18

This is a video I had set at 10$ that sold a few times (now I've increased it at 16$ and see how it goes)
http://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/11096113/

It's really simple, nothing special. Do you think that it's fair to set the price higher?

Do you think it's fair for the rest of us selling video clips for $10? I'm sure video clip buyers wouldn't be concerned if you priced this higher. They're used to higher prices than still buyers.

KB · « **Reply #13 on:** November 07, 2012, 16:31 »

I've always wished that Pond5 would set a minimum price allowed for video files (based on resolution). I guess they never will, though, if they haven't by now.

lbarn · « **Reply #14 on:** November 07, 2012, 16:41 »

I found this article months ago covering this issue, and thought it was useful reading.

http://normanpogson.blogspot.com/2011/10/how-much-are-stock-video-clips-worth.html#links

MicrostockExp · « **Reply #15 on:** November 08, 2012, 06:25 »

selling a HD clip at 10 bucks is ridiculous this is a price of a picture! Sold two clips at 100 usd on Pond5 already I price mst of them at 50-60 usd

stocker2011 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 08, 2012, 06:52 »

I don't get it when contributors price their content at say $49 as opposed to $50. Most businesses with a budget who buy videos would pay top dollar for the right clip so i doubt the 1 dollar difference for a different clip would make a difference. It's this undercut your fellow contributor mentality which i don't like and make P5 look amateurish it times. In terms of pricing, i like how revostock gives you a choice to set your price but stops contributors from adding silly values.

Dantheman · « **Reply #17 on:** November 08, 2012, 07:03 »

Quote from: stocker2011 on November 08, 2012, 06:52

I don't get it when contributors price their content at say $49 as opposed to $50. Most businesses with a budget who buy videos would pay top dollar for the right clip so i doubt the 1 dollar difference for a different clip would make a difference. It's this undercut your fellow contributor mentality which i don't like and make P5 look amateurish it times. In terms of pricing, i like how revostock gives you a choice to set your price but stops contributors from adding silly values.

Well, the one dollar is only about the psychological aspect. You can still have a high price. Let's say $99 instead of 100.

stocker2011 · « **Reply #18 on:** November 08, 2012, 07:40 »

But it's not walmart, and like i mentioned businesses don't care about a $1 psychological difference, its all about the clip, its quality and if it meets their needs. So it makes no difference if contributors want to try undercut another contributor by $1.

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