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Title: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: aly on November 01, 2015, 23:24
On a Sunday I seem to have all submissions  rejected for the same two reasons-
POOR LIGHTING
OUT OF FOCUS
 Yet during the week the similar images  are ACCEPTED.
This is NOT GOOD ENOUGH, Something must be done  by SS to standardise the review process. It is so unfair and time wasting and frustrating. I ask just how can so many pics be rejected for the same reasons? On a Sunday? WHY??
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: anathaya on November 01, 2015, 23:44
On a Sunday I seem to have all submissions  rejected for the same two reasons-
POOR LIGHTING
OUT OF FOCUS
 Yet during the week the similar images  are ACCEPTED.
This is NOT GOOD ENOUGH, Something must be done  by SS to standardise the review process. It is so unfair and time wasting and frustrating. I ask just how can so many pics be rejected for the same reasons? On a Sunday? WHY??

Why cannot many pictures be rejected for same reason on a Sunday? How can we say anything without seeing your pictures?

BTW, there are existing threads about rejections in SS. Probably it's a better idea to post your complain there.
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on November 02, 2015, 00:55
Post examples.
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: Pauws99 on November 02, 2015, 02:52
I'm not sure posting examples will help and the subject is flogged to death until it starts affecting ss bottom line nothing will change sad but true.
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: Shelma1 on November 02, 2015, 05:07
Yeah, I got the Sunday Slaughter too. All my images were rejected for title, which just goes to show it's someone who doesn't feel like working on Sunday so just rejects everything for whatever reason he/she can come up with.
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: mojaric on November 02, 2015, 05:33
SS is doing this kind of things from ages....BTW sean is right a post like this MUST be supported with an image example, otherwise for me it's spam.
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: Dumc on November 02, 2015, 08:34
People rant over SS rejections yet no-one has the guts to show those examples. I wonder why.
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: Pauws99 on November 02, 2015, 08:41
Probably because people on this site will find fault with anything......the point is its inconsistent maybe my pictures are crap but sometimes they get accepted sometimes they dont
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: StockPhotosArt.com on November 02, 2015, 09:44
Probably because people on this site will find fault with anything......the point is its inconsistent maybe my pictures are crap but sometimes they get accepted sometimes they dont

Exactly. I'm contributing to stock since 2007, starting with modest cameras and always managed to have a very high acceptance rate. Than, all of the sudden, in the last year or so, images taken with a 5D MKII which I own since 2009 are out of focus and other absurd rejection reasons in 100% of some batches.

It's even more absurd when all batches always have images taken in different light types and circumstances. And no, the camera is not malfunctioning and it's as sharp as when I bought it.

So, despite the OP images which I haven't seen I can attest how inconsistent and even absurd the SS review has become.
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on November 02, 2015, 09:50
Probably because people on this site will find fault with anything......the point is its inconsistent maybe my pictures are crap but sometimes they get accepted sometimes they dont

Obviously, this case was so egregious it warranted a new thread, so it must be backed up with some examples so we can all empathize.
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: aly on November 02, 2015, 20:36
Four of my images for your interest.
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: aly on November 02, 2015, 20:38
another image.
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: aly on November 02, 2015, 20:39
one more image
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: aly on November 02, 2015, 20:40
one more
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: anathaya on November 02, 2015, 22:30
IMO, lighting seems OK in second and third photos, other two has some undesirable shadows.
Cannot say anything about focus since these are not full size images.
(I may be wrong.)
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: Microstockphoto on November 03, 2015, 02:27
The images have poor lighting poor composition weak  subject matter so they maybe in focus but they have other issues
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on November 03, 2015, 04:56
Well, at least you had the guts to post them :) .  I'd say the lighting is pretty harsh. The focus seems to be ok, but mostly, they just look like snapshots of walk about stuff.  Poor composition, tilted horizon, etc.
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: aly on November 03, 2015, 05:05
Re my pics -the roundabout  subject is one of my top best sellers, as are the pics of flowers.Thanks for your input. Appreciated.
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: Microstockphoto on November 03, 2015, 05:28
Best seller is a relative statement and by no means a statistic that merits acceptance at a stock agency nor is it an indication that the image has a high commercial value sorry. and I agree with sean thanks for posting examples
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: Carl on November 03, 2015, 06:58
In my experience, the acceptance / rejections are arbitrary.  I've had 100% rejection on SS and 100% acceptance on other sites with the same batch.  Other batches are vice versa.  Still other sites are somewhere in between, and images that are accepted and rejected are different among the sites.  Ultimately, they all end up for sale somewhere, so I move on.
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: langstrup on November 03, 2015, 07:47
If I upload 100 images I rarely get more than 2-5 rejected. Usually because of focus issue, and sometimes they are right ;)

I think the biggest issue with with "lightning rejections" is that some reviewers dont have the expertise to see good lightning if itīs not the "standard light".

In your case I would say they are right - sorry, but you should work more on getting good light. Try to start with shooting everything when the sun is setting. Itīs a easy way to improve your light drastic and getting those long shadows and soft light!

Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: Cesar on November 03, 2015, 07:54
images does not have value, if i were reviewer i would also rejects stuff like that. sorry. i you upload flowers, it must be very good composition, this images are boring.
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: Microstockphoto on November 03, 2015, 08:18
'Try to start with shooting everything when the sun is setting'

Because?

i dont see a valid reason to exclude normal daylight images when done right
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: langstrup on November 03, 2015, 09:03
'Try to start with shooting everything when the sun is setting'

Because?

i dont see a valid reason to exclude normal daylight images when done right

If you bother to read the rest of my post! "Easy" light is the keyword here!
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: ACS on November 03, 2015, 10:30
Thanks for the examples. I think these photos have low commercial value. Even if accepted they will not be able generate more than a couple of downloads. My 8 years experience in the industry tells me that, sorry. Rejection reason should have been "low commercial value". But on the other hand they are accepting similar images everyday and you are right to demand consistency...Anyway, to get a higher acceptancy rate, for less headaches, try to use unusual angles such as low, high, close-up etc.
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: Zero Talent on November 03, 2015, 10:32
'Try to start with shooting everything when the sun is setting'

Because?

i dont see a valid reason to exclude normal daylight images when done right

When you ask for critique, don't fight it back. Listen, think and try to learn from it, if it make sense to you.
If you only want meaningless comments, faves or likes to flatter your ego, post these photos on Flickr or FB.

I personally agree with langstrup, Cesar and Sean.
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: Microstockphoto on November 03, 2015, 10:44
no need to get all bossy, I didnt ask for critique and i dont disagree with the critique given, i just wonder why everything has to be shot at sunset. if you look at what images are used i hardly see images at sunset

https://www.google.com/search?q=cheap+holidays&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMI2ZOq5sv0yAIVRNkaCh1jLQod&biw=1761&bih=995 (https://www.google.com/search?q=cheap+holidays&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMI2ZOq5sv0yAIVRNkaCh1jLQod&biw=1761&bih=995)
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on November 03, 2015, 11:21
no need to get all bossy, I didnt ask for critique and i dont disagree with the critique given, i just wonder why everything has to be shot at sunset. if you look at what images are used i hardly see images at sunset

https://www.google.com/search?q=cheap+holidays&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMI2ZOq5sv0yAIVRNkaCh1jLQod&biw=1761&bih=995 (https://www.google.com/search?q=cheap+holidays&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMI2ZOq5sv0yAIVRNkaCh1jLQod&biw=1761&bih=995)

It doesn't, but blazing mid-day sun isn't necessarily the best either.  Especially when accompanied by less than stellar composition, etc.
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: Microstockphoto on November 03, 2015, 11:25
Not denying any of that
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: Shelma1 on November 03, 2015, 13:22
After seeing the pot portfolio I can't take any of their rejections seriously.
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: Fatmanphoto on November 03, 2015, 14:19
'Try to start with shooting everything when the sun is setting'

Because?

i dont see a valid reason to exclude normal daylight images when done right

If you bother to read the rest of my post! "Easy" light is the keyword here!

There was a thread here a few months ago where general agreement was that Microstock sites preferred mid-day light to golden hour shots.
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: Pauws99 on November 03, 2015, 16:15
"Best seller is a relative statement and by no means a statistic that merits acceptance at a stock agency nor is it an indication that the image has a high commercial value "

I don't follow the logic if an image is a "best seller" I would have thought by definition it is High Commercial Value? Not necessarily high production value or high quality though?
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: ShadySue on November 03, 2015, 16:18
Someone's best seller might have sold twice in a year.
Not saying that's the case with the OP, just pointing out that Best Seller is relative.
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: Pauws99 on November 03, 2015, 16:20
Fair point yep would need to be a high overall seller rather than an individuals best seller
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: etudiante_rapide on November 03, 2015, 18:38
lol, what did you upload?  let me guess...
night shots, window lighting, sunset, street lights, fireworks, outdoor etc..

you must have got that certain reviewer who is daft and thinks all photography has to be flat lighting as everything else is poor lighting.

After seeing the pot portfolio I can't take any of their rejections seriously.

oh yes, if everything fails, try sending the reviewer a box of weed. it should improve his/her
eyesight and presto, your images are now in focus to him/her  ;)
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: cascoly on November 04, 2015, 14:45
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In your case I would say they are right - sorry, but you should work more on getting good light. Try to start with shooting everything when the sun is setting. Itīs a easy way to improve your light drastic and getting those long shadows and soft light!

unfortunately those are precisely the sort of images that are being rejected for poor lighting or 'bad' white balance
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: Pauws99 on November 05, 2015, 09:33
SS HATE shadows!
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: langstrup on November 05, 2015, 15:30
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In your case I would say they are right - sorry, but you should work more on getting good light. Try to start with shooting everything when the sun is setting. Itīs a easy way to improve your light drastic and getting those long shadows and soft light!


unfortunately those are precisely the sort of images that are being rejected for poor lighting or 'bad' white balance


That is not true! I NEVER get images rejected because of whitebalance, but of course you have to adjust the WB too shooting in the setting sun. Below you can see some of my "sunset" images - Never a problem!

www.shutterstock.com/g/UberImages/sets/12720557-couple-dating-in-the-city (http://www.shutterstock.com/g/UberImages/sets/12720557-couple-dating-in-the-city)

www.shutterstock.com/g/UberImages/sets/12811601-teenage-fun (http://www.shutterstock.com/g/UberImages/sets/12811601-teenage-fun)
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: Pauws99 on November 05, 2015, 16:48
Not True for "Life style" pictures. For other categories my belief is it is true.
Title: Re: Poor lighting out of focus for 45 images at SS
Post by: etudiante_rapide on November 05, 2015, 17:23
...
In your case I would say they are right - sorry, but you should work more on getting good light. Try to start with shooting everything when the sun is setting. Itīs a easy way to improve your light drastic and getting those long shadows and soft light!

unfortunately those are precisely the sort of images that are being rejected for poor lighting or 'bad' white balance

+10
most of batman, resident evil, matrix, xmen,etc... would get an F- by this certain
mindless reivewer who rejects anything that is not mid-day lighting as "poor condition".