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Microstock Photography Forum - General => General Stock Discussion => Topic started by: muratani on November 03, 2018, 15:16
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Is it normal to have very low Shutterstock sales? It is used to be better. Now even my Bigstock and Dreamstime sales are better than my Shutterstock sales. Is it mean ST, somehow put me on low profile? I heard other people ST sales are much more better than other agencies.
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Yeah tell us all about it! thanks! ::)
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Most people get more sales on Shutterstock hence it's No1 in the poll results.
However a lot of those people have been submitting for a long time and have a diversified portfolio, its harder to get new images to sell than sell old images that have already sold many times before. Search position and so many more images getting submitted.
You could search the other 20 threads where people complain about shrinking downloads at Shutterstock.
What are you going to do if people say its normal or they say its not normal ?
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Try any search you want, typing any word(s) you want... and compare "Fresh content" vs "Most Relevant"... Now you can understand why, from a buyer point of view, "Fresh content" will be used only by buyers who have the time to sort out tons of images to find the good one.
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Try any search you want, typing any word(s) you want... and compare "Fresh content" vs "Most Relevant"... Now you can understand why, from a buyer point of view, "Fresh content" will be used only by buyers who have the time to sort out tons of images to find the good one.
+100 for your comments 8)
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Sales of the first week is horror. :o Why are they playing with the site too much i really don't understand. What is the logic of removing Most Popular button in search page?
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Sales of the first week is horror. :o Why are they playing with the site too much i really don't understand. What is the logic of removing Most Popular button in search page?
The "logic" is to give customers a wider choice than the same old images. Whether the way it is implemented achieves that is the real issue. My sales so far this month are horrible...looks like the latest change has gone against me.
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Sale are normal here but I expect them to grow as we have christmas and new year month close.
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Sale are normal here but I expect them to grow as we have christmas and new year month close.
Really? Xmas and the new year are usually low sales months as all the buyer go on vacation
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Yes, October was good but November has been slow so far.
December is usually crap in terms of sales too.
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Yes, October was good but November has been slow so far.
December is usually crap in terms of sales too.
sme..rea october but first 6 days of nvember less than a good day of october...semms like i reached already my annual quota
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semms like i reached already my annual quota
Oh no, please! We already had the daily cap and the monthly cap conspiracy, do we need a yearly one too?
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semms like i reached already my annual quota
Oh no, please! We already had the daily cap and the monthly cap conspiracy, do we need a yearly one too?
You forgot the weekly one ;-).
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semms like i reached already my annual quota
Oh no, please! We already had the daily cap and the monthly cap conspiracy, do we need a yearly one too?
You forgot the weekly one ;-).
Heck, what about hourly cap... 8)
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semms like i reached already my annual quota
Oh no, please! We already had the daily cap and the monthly cap conspiracy, do we need a yearly one too?
Wait you missed the news, if you complain on the SS forum, you will suddenly get more sales.
Just amazing what people will come up with, superstitions, but more so, how many others will be taken in by these off these high imaginative theories. If more people would look at this as a business, instead of some game, they would understand, there are good days and not so good, and periods where sales slump. Also if someone has a good balance offering, they will have a fairly stable flow of sales, but still have ups and down. Just not as big as someone who has a smaller or less diverse portfolio.
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Shutter has lost it's glitter! Adobe and Canva have gain market share so of course our sales are going to go down on Shutter...
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Shutter has lost it's glitter! Adobe and Canva have gain market share so of course our sales are going to go down on Shutter...
plus 100%! dead right!
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Wasn't there a MOST DOWNLOADED button in search page? I think they removed this button and it affected sales of most downloaded images. Now ı can only see MOST RELEVANT and FRESH CONTENT buttons. November sales are horror. I can not imagine December and the rest.
What about asking this subject to shutterstock admins in contributor forum?
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Wasn't there a MOST DOWNLOADED button in search page? I think they removed this button and it affected sales of most downloaded images. Now ı can only see MOST RELEVANT and FRESH CONTENT buttons. November sales are horror. I can not imagine December and the rest.
What about asking this subject to shutterstock admins in contributor forum?
You are thinking of "Popular" which has been relabeled to Most Relevant (there never was a MOST DOWNLOADED button)
"Popular" never related to most downloaded, it was the result of a gobbledygook algorithm of newest images, downloads and clicks which resulted in some form of relevancy according to SS.
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Yes i mean POPULAR button. When did they remove this button? Sales are horror and i think it is not related to New year period.
Wasn't there a MOST DOWNLOADED button in search page? I think they removed this button and it affected sales of most downloaded images. Now ı can only see MOST RELEVANT and FRESH CONTENT buttons. November sales are horror. I can not imagine December and the rest.
What about asking this subject to shutterstock admins in contributor forum?
You are thinking of "Popular" (there never was a MOST DOWNLOADED button) which never related to most downloaded, it was the result of a gobbledygook algorithm of newest, downloads and clicks which resulted in some form of relevancy according to SS.
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Wasn't there a MOST DOWNLOADED button in search page? I think they removed this button and it affected sales of most downloaded images. Now ı can only see MOST RELEVANT and FRESH CONTENT buttons. November sales are horror. I can not imagine December and the rest.
What about asking this subject to shutterstock admins in contributor forum?
i agree totally hour sales for november...fotolia and is are growing but not to match the lose in ss......they kill relevant and it was an error..buyers only search for popular due to the fact ss accepts all craps in the world...that's why established contributor sen not uploading for years still sells a lot, especially christmas and new year content sold are always the same for years. the sites of micro are biased towards old and establish contributor who uploaded in the past. new content fight with thousand of crap. i hope they kill popular tab and change it wth the old relevant.
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I opened a topic in contributor forums. Please join.
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September was a 12month high for me, then October topping it with another 12 month high - wow.
I feel that November will be a start of bearish month. I just hope it will not be a complete nosedive >.<
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My sales decreased to 1/3. My loss is 2/3.
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i have a photo of dubai who was in first line in a search of more than 75000 image of dubai ...it sells everyday ..near 1000 sales, now slipped already in 2 page...and clearly not sold for the last days...thanks shuttestock. now i understand the lost of sales of last days...good job ss
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Really bad start of the month, down about 30%
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Please join my topic and share your experience in shutterstock contributor forums.
i have a photo of dubai who was in first line in a search of more than 75000 image of dubai ...it sells everyday ..near 1000 sales, now slipped already in 2 page...and clearly not sold for the last days...thanks shuttestock. now i understand the lost of sales of last days...good job ss
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i have a photo of dubai who was in first line in a search of more than 75000 image of dubai ...it sells everyday ..near 1000 sales, now slipped already in 2 page...and clearly not sold for the last days...thanks shuttestock. now i understand the lost of sales of last days...good job ss
Again, that's just SS replicating what iS did a few years back. I had some of my iS best-sellers disappear without trace overnight, went from the top line of best match search to below page 100.
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Complaining to SS will not stop the fact that other companies are taking their customers. Look at the poll. Just a few years back SS was like 97! Now it is in the low 80's and it's going to get worse for them. Sure I've lost about 40% of my sales from just the last two years but that's life in the business world- nothing I can do but to move forward with the other companies or find work outside of the MS world :-\
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Please join my topic in contributor forum. Unfortunately, there are only 3 big firms in microstock industry.
Complaining to SS will not stop the fact that other companies are taking their customers. Look at the poll. Just a few years back SS was like 97! Now it is in the low 80's and it's going to get worse for them. Sure I've lost about 40% of my sales from just the last two years but that's life in the business world- nothing I can do but to move forward with the other companies or find work outside of the MS world :-\
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Please join my topic in contributor forum. Unfortunately, there are only 3 big firms in microstock industry.
Complaining to SS will not stop the fact that other companies are taking their customers. Look at the poll. Just a few years back SS was like 97! Now it is in the low 80's and it's going to get worse for them. Sure I've lost about 40% of my sales from just the last two years but that's life in the business world- nothing I can do but to move forward with the other companies or find work outside of the MS world :-\
I don't agree with there being only 3 big firms. Personally, I know some folks that make more on Fine Art of America, Pond 5, Alamy, Creative Markets than most on this site make with SS! SS isn't the only game in town and I've accepted this... 8)
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Please join my topic in contributor forum. Unfortunately, there are only 3 big firms in microstock industry.
Complaining to SS will not stop the fact that other companies are taking their customers. Look at the poll. Just a few years back SS was like 97! Now it is in the low 80's and it's going to get worse for them. Sure I've lost about 40% of my sales from just the last two years but that's life in the business world- nothing I can do but to move forward with the other companies or find work outside of the MS world :-\
You mentioned this three times now. Once is quite sufficient.
Anyway I'll never darken the SS forum its full of people who don't know how to take photos complaining about lack of sales ;D
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i have a photo of dubai who was in first line in a search of more than 75000 image of dubai ...it sells everyday ..near 1000 sales, now slipped already in 2 page...and clearly not sold for the last days...thanks shuttestock. now i understand the lost of sales of last days...good job ss
"content sold are always the same for years. the sites of micro are biased towards old and establish contributor who uploaded in the past."
:o
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i have a photo of dubai who was in first line in a search of more than 75000 image of dubai ...it sells everyday ..near 1000 sales, now slipped already in 2 page...and clearly not sold for the last days...thanks shuttestock. now i understand the lost of sales of last days...good job ss
Again, that's just SS replicating what iS did a few years back. I had some of my iS best-sellers disappear without trace overnight, went from the top line of best match search to below page 100.
FT did that too in 2010-2012. That was the reason I went to SS in 2012. Thanks FT. :) At the time, I didn't think I'd get into SS but got 10/10 selected on my first submission. The image that had sold most (500+ dls) at FT in 4 years (and suddenly went to zero) has gone on to sell 3K+ at SS.
However, my SS experience now mirrors many others here. $$$ sales down by 2/3rds compared to 2 years ago and dls down by 50+%. No incentive to upload more as new stuff mostly disappears without a single sale. This business is back to being a hobby.....nice pocket money but not a real reward for energy expended.