Author Topic: Rejections on adobe (Read 33865 times)

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #100 on:** June 09, 2023, 12:09 »

Quote from: cobalt on June 09, 2023, 04:27

Naive question: why not implement upload limits, especially for gen ai content?

Because the onslaught will not stop. There are so many youtubers screaming how easy it is to make thousands on Adobe.

And when firefly is opened for commercial use, that will bring in a lot more people.

Same thoughts. If the AI content is plugging up the formerly functional system, just limit the AI uploads, let the rest of us keep working. Another case of punishing the people who aren't causing the problems. Many new and more stringent laws have come around lately in the same way.

Limit AI uploads, there's a limited need and the demand will be fulfilled soon enough, without over taxing the rest of the system.

Just can't wait to make some new uploads and see what happens. Personally I haven't seen an increase in rejections, but I would understand if files that used to pass, style, subjects, camera all that, are now being rejected, people would take notice and be unhappy.

To be fair, Mat is not a reviewer, he's an advocate, he has mostly the same information we do, from our observations and personal reviews. I know he has more, but that doesn't mean we should assume that he's told everything, in detail, about how things work inside the intake department. When I asked Mat about a rejection, he looked and nailed the reason, which I had missed myself. After that it was easy to see.

cobalt · « **Reply #101 on:** June 09, 2023, 12:15 »

Mat is doing a great job, even looks into our individual cases.

But the current situation is too abrupt and has too many experienced people complaining in all kinds of groups.

So something is going on and everyone can see how much ai content is being uploaded.

A lot of it is also very, very good and I think Adobe is offering the customer a great solution, instead of having to bumble through the prompting process to get what they need.

But a simple, flexible upload limit is an easy fix and successfully implemented with many agencies.

The star artists obviously can continue to have their unlimited uploads.

But when firefly goes live for commercial use, the ai uploads will probably rise 1000%.

Especially if Adobe offers an easy to use app that can be directly connected to an Adobe stock account.

BT1976 · « **Reply #102 on:** June 09, 2023, 19:41 »

Hi, this is my first post. I'm sorry for my bad english.

I sent a set of 13-15 photos the other day. Shot with a tripod with Canon Eos R and Canon Rf 100mm. fenugreek photos. They were all different from each other, but all were rejected. I sent it again. Half accepted. A photo accepted the next day paid $2.97 commission. It was rejected as quality, but I think this is still the quality the customer wants.

I hope I was able to upload the images.

Madoo · « **Reply #103 on:** June 10, 2023, 02:20 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on June 09, 2023, 12:09

Quote from: cobalt on June 09, 2023, 04:27
Naive question: why not implement upload limits, especially for gen ai content?

Because the onslaught will not stop. There are so many youtubers screaming how easy it is to make thousands on Adobe.

And when firefly is opened for commercial use, that will bring in a lot more people.

Same thoughts. If the AI content is plugging up the formerly functional system, just limit the AI uploads, let the rest of us keep working. Another case of punishing the people who aren't causing the problems. Many new and more stringent laws have come around lately in the same way.

Limit AI uploads, there's a limited need and the demand will be fulfilled soon enough, without over taxing the rest of the system.

Just can't wait to make some new uploads and see what happens. Personally I haven't seen an increase in rejections, but I would understand if files that used to pass, style, subjects, camera all that, are now being rejected, people would take notice and be unhappy.

To be fair, Mat is not a reviewer, he's an advocate, he has mostly the same information we do, from our observations and personal reviews. I know he has more, but that doesn't mean we should assume that he's told everything, in detail, about how things work inside the intake department. When I asked Mat about a rejection, he looked and nailed the reason, which I had missed myself. After that it was easy to see.

There is already limited AI uploads implemented....to 500 "images".

Her Ugliness · « **Reply #104 on:** June 10, 2023, 02:40 »

Quote from: Madoo on June 10, 2023, 02:20

There is already limited AI uploads implemented....to 500 "images".

I have way more AI images waiting to be reviewed in the queque than that.
From what I understood there is only a upload limit for new accounts anyways, but I have not read any number mentioned anywhere.

Madoo · « **Reply #105 on:** June 11, 2023, 06:08 »

Quote from: Her Ugliness on June 10, 2023, 02:40

Quote from: Madoo on June 10, 2023, 02:20

There is already limited AI uploads implemented....to 500 "images".

I have way more AI images waiting to be reviewed in the queque than that.
From what I understood there is only a upload limit for new accounts anyways, but I have not read any number mentioned anywhere.

Again all contributors at Adobe doesn't have a same status or treatment.
Nothing new.
Yes...there is a 500 Ai uploads as limited. Thrust me and don't ask how I know that.

Madoo · « **Reply #106 on:** June 11, 2023, 06:17 »

C'mon guys and girls...we are discussing here about Adobe rejections....while our work is moderated by "Moderation Team" which is composed of people who received 7 days of moderation training.

I bet in my year adobe sale that at least one of them is ex house cleaning woman or it will be much appropriated to say maid ?

Her Ugliness · « **Reply #107 on:** June 11, 2023, 06:44 »

Quote from: Madoo on June 11, 2023, 06:08

Yes...there is a 500 Ai uploads as limited. Thrust me and don't ask how I know that.

And yet I have over 900 AI images waiting to be reviewed, so excuse me if I do not "trust" you on this issue.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #108 on:** June 11, 2023, 10:40 »

Quote from: Her Ugliness on June 11, 2023, 06:44

Quote from: Madoo on June 11, 2023, 06:08

Yes...there is a 500 Ai uploads as limited. Thrust me and don't ask how I know that.

And yet I have over 900 AI images waiting to be reviewed, so excuse me if I do not "trust" you on this issue.

Yes I believe you and you both could be right. If it's a day or a week, or in a 7 day period, there are many possible ways to have a 500 image limit and for you to have over 900 images waiting to be reviewed.

I hate to be someone to suggest restrictions or limitations on anyone else. But if the system is clogged, because of mass uploads of AI images, which prevents other types from being reviewed, I'd say that's possibly unfair to people who aren't flooding the agency with AI created images? Restrict the uploads of all kinds of images, is the only fair way, until there is some way to channel AI to it's own track for review or do something to restore the access to all kinds of images, like it used to be?

Oh right, this is a forum, everything is pretty much hypothetical discussion and doesn't change what's going on at Adobe.

Her Ugliness · « **Reply #109 on:** June 11, 2023, 11:13 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on June 11, 2023, 10:40

Quote from: Her Ugliness on June 11, 2023, 06:44
Quote from: Madoo on June 11, 2023, 06:08

Yes...there is a 500 Ai uploads as limited. Thrust me and don't ask how I know that.

And yet I have over 900 AI images waiting to be reviewed, so excuse me if I do not "trust" you on this issue.

Yes I believe you and you both could be right. If it's a day or a week, or in a 7 day period, there are many possible ways to have a 500 image limit and for you to have over 900 images waiting to be reviewed.

You are right. I did not consider the upload limit could be for a time frame, like just a day. I thought it meant that you can't upload more as soon as you reached the limit in your review queue. Doesn't seem to be much of a limit then. If the limit is 500 images a day and the AI image review time currently is 28 days, that means some people have 14.000 AI images waiting to be reviewed. No wonder review times aren't getting any shorter.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #110 on:** June 11, 2023, 11:20 »

Quote from: Her Ugliness on June 11, 2023, 11:13

Quote from: Uncle Pete on June 11, 2023, 10:40
Quote from: Her Ugliness on June 11, 2023, 06:44
Quote from: Madoo on June 11, 2023, 06:08

Yes...there is a 500 Ai uploads as limited. Thrust me and don't ask how I know that.

And yet I have over 900 AI images waiting to be reviewed, so excuse me if I do not "trust" you on this issue.

Yes I believe you and you both could be right. If it's a day or a week, or in a 7 day period, there are many possible ways to have a 500 image limit and for you to have over 900 images waiting to be reviewed.

You are right. I did not consider the upload limit could be for a time frame, like just a day. I thought it meant that you can't upload more as soon as you reached the limit in your review queue. Doesn't seem to be much of a limit then. If the limit is 500 images a day and the AI image review time currently is 28 days, that means some people have 14.000 AI images waiting to be reviewed. No wonder review times aren't getting any shorter.

You would know best because you actually have something to upload, but yes. I don't know if the limit is a day or week or anything else. But more true, if it was a week, and the reviews take 28 days, people could easily have 1,500 waiting. And also yes, if it's 500 a day, 24 hours, or something like that, your 14,000 number would also be possible.

Now if AS took editorial news, maybe on a Monday, some day, I'd have 500 to upload?

TonyD · « **Reply #111 on:** June 11, 2023, 11:23 »

Great! Adobe has now accepted all 3 photos I mentioned here. This is because people on here mentioned what was wrong so I corrected them accordingly, thanks. Although tech quality is only part of it - see the below post.
For all the trouble Adobe give, they have at least paid me 99c per photo for the last few DLs. which is much better than SS so it was worth it.

TonyD · « **Reply #112 on:** June 11, 2023, 11:31 »

Quote from: kubeslaw on June 07, 2023, 17:15

Obviously there is some issue with extraordinary rejection rate at Adobe, even if Matt is trying to deny that.

Today I got really frustrated as out of batch of 500 diverse pictures 400 has been already rejected. And I am surely not an idiot trying to submit some useless crap, previously my acceptance rate was around 90% and I have almost 8000 pics in my portfolio.

I corrected all 3 photos & adobe has now accepted them. I didn't even have to downsize them. The other thing is that I wrote the exact location in some of the titles this time. Adobe doesn't have too many photos from my local area & there were no I.P. problems either

cascoly · « **Reply #113 on:** June 11, 2023, 12:26 »

Quote from: Her Ugliness on June 11, 2023, 11:13

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You are right. I did not consider the upload limit could be for a time frame, like just a day. I thought it meant that you can't upload more as soon as you reached the limit in your review queue. Doesn't seem to be much of a limit then. If the limit is 500 images a day and the AI image review time currently is 28 days, that means some people have 14.000 AI images waiting to be reviewed. No wonder review times aren't getting any shorter.

true but at least their uploads will be spread out for review

DT has a 3500/week limit which seems like a reasonable approach

Her Ugliness · « **Reply #114 on:** June 11, 2023, 13:55 »

Quote from: cascoly on June 11, 2023, 12:26

DT has a 3500/week limit which seems like a reasonable approach

That equals to a limit of 500/day, so the same as Adobe?
But for whatever reason DT doesn't seem to have any problems with keeping up with reviews at all and nothing has changed since they started accepting AI images. I think they even have the fastest reviews of all agencies I submit to.

Just_to_inform_people2 · « **Reply #115 on:** June 11, 2023, 14:18 »

500 a day? 3,500 a week?

I have issues submitting 10 actual good quality real photos a month.

It's not my day job but still. With that rate it will become pointless to submit actual photos.

I will be outnumbered by factor x and my photos will be lost in an ocean of AI images.

TonyD · « **Reply #116 on:** June 11, 2023, 14:26 »

I couldn't afford the electricity to upload 100s of photos & have them rejected even if I took that many, thanks to the outrageous behavior of UK utility companies.

cascoly · « **Reply #117 on:** June 11, 2023, 16:47 »

Quote from: Her Ugliness on June 11, 2023, 13:55

Quote from: cascoly on June 11, 2023, 12:26

DT has a 3500/week limit which seems like a reasonable approach

That equals to a limit of 500/day, so the same as Adobe?
But for whatever reason DT doesn't seem to have any problems with keeping up with reviews at all and nothing has changed since they started accepting AI images. I think they even have the fastest reviews of all agencies I submit to.

it may just be theydont get as many submissions.

and the difference with 3500/wk is you can upload 1500 in one day. I've never used more than 500+ per WEEK at any site

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #118 on:** June 11, 2023, 18:55 »

Quote from: cascoly on June 11, 2023, 12:26

...DT has a 3500/week limit which seems like a reasonable approach

My limit at DT is 7,000 a week - I've no idea how high it can go.

Madoo · « **Reply #119 on:** June 11, 2023, 23:52 »

Quote from: Her Ugliness on June 11, 2023, 06:44

Quote from: Madoo on June 11, 2023, 06:08

Yes...there is a 500 Ai uploads as limited. Thrust me and don't ask how I know that.

And yet I have over 900 AI images waiting to be reviewed, so excuse me if I do not "trust" you on this issue.

500 For a new members. Sorry , I forgot to emphasize that.

cobalt · « **Reply #120 on:** June 12, 2023, 08:51 »

I struggle to produce more than 10 good files a day or 50-70 files a week.

That includes gen ai.

Have no idea how people do mass shootings and uploads.

Even with editiorial I don‘t upload everything.

But perhaps that is wrong and I should find a way to double or triple my uploads.

Jaggy · « **Reply #121 on:** June 12, 2023, 09:04 »

A week ago, I had 4 photos rejected by Adobe for "quality issues". Generally, I don't resubmit but I thought I would try resubmitting one of them as a trial.

Predictably, this photo has been accepted by Adobe.

Does this mean that, in the last week, Adobe has reduced their quality standards? Alternatively, perhaps it highlights that there is inconsistency in the review process and that Adobe's review guidelines lack the specificity to allow for consistent reviews.

Does it also mean that we must now adopt the ridiculous 'resubmission game' that has been a feature of the relationship with Shutterstock.

I had thought Adobe was better than that!

TonyD · « **Reply #122 on:** June 12, 2023, 10:15 »

Quote from: Jaggy on June 12, 2023, 09:04

A week ago, I had 4 photos rejected by Adobe for "quality issues". Generally, I don't resubmit but I thought I would try resubmitting one of them as a trial.

Predictably, this photo has been accepted by Adobe.

Does this mean that, in the last week, Adobe has reduced their quality standards? Alternatively, perhaps it highlights that there is inconsistency in the review process and that Adobe's review guidelines lack the specificity to allow for consistent reviews.

Does it also mean that we must now adopt the ridiculous 'resubmission game' that has been a feature of the relationship with Shutterstock.

I had thought Adobe was better than that!

Agreed and it's not fair to make us use more energy to have to re-upload. Shutterstock has now vastly improved its reviews in the last few months so Adobe should do the same.

photostockad · « **Reply #123 on:** June 12, 2023, 10:35 »

Same problem. I am contributor for more than 10 years, with approval rate above 95% (main rejections regarding intellectual property). Today I've got a 100% rejection on a set, quality issues. I don't think I've changed my editing style/skills in the past months/year and my images are all accepted on the all other big agencies.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #124 on:** June 12, 2023, 10:54 »

Quote from: cobalt on June 12, 2023, 08:51

I struggle to produce more than 10 good files a day or 50-70 files a week.

That includes gen ai.

Have no idea how people do mass shootings and uploads.

Even with editiorial I don‘t upload everything.

But perhaps that is wrong and I should find a way to double or triple my uploads.

Both of you are heroes compared to me. I struggle to make one good photo a day. The first obstacle is motivation to work for a dime, but then there's Adobe and I get 99¢. After that here's Alamy for pennies and DT few sales and IS connect, so I'd rather work in the garden or mow the lawn.

You are correct. The theory is, work harder, make more money. That's the investment and reward for your work.

Kind of slow Saturday/Sunday, not the best conditions for access, photo holes and locations were limited, four people on a tower and I had to stand below and wait. 1,600 images. I'm still working on culling, editing, IDs and keywords. My estimate, if I don't get too picky or overly critical is 50-80 images that I will upload. Sometimes I don't get that, because I just didn't get enough good material to start with.

I wonder if anything will be suitable for Adobe? All of the above is for Alamy and SSTK.

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