Author Topic: Replacing DP - are Canstockphoto or Envato worth it? (Read 12128 times)

spike · « **on:** February 18, 2014, 18:05 »

I'm thinking of deactivating my account on DP (we all know why) and I'm looking into other options.

I submit to SS, IS (here and there), FT, DT, Alamy, P5 and BS. I stopped uploading to BS because the results from that agency are bs for me, in contrast to what the poll here says. It's not even worth to push images there for me.

Anyway, I'm wondering about canstock and photodune. Are they good earners for you, is there any particular image type that goes well on those agencies, as compared to other agencies? They are all rated lower than BS, but then again, so are DP and P5, and I earn a lot more on those agencies, then on BS. So maybe expanding would be a good idea.

Any tips, stories from your own experience? Where is the upload process the easiest (I don't wish to lose time uploading to an agency which will not give results)?

Thanks

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #1 on:** February 18, 2014, 19:03 »

Both are low earners and I'd generally say PD is a bit more consistent than CanStock - and except for the occasional bigger royalty sale from Fotosearch (CanStock's parent company) PD pays better most of the time too - no subscriptions and $2.97 for an original size image versus $1.25 for an XL (regular) on CanStock. And CanStock has subs that pay only 25 cents for most, which is another drawback

Allsa · « **Reply #2 on:** February 18, 2014, 20:59 »

I'm thinking about leaving DP, too. I'm already on Canstock & Envato - both sites are worth it me. I'm wondering if YayMicro is worth it...

vilainecrevette · « **Reply #3 on:** February 18, 2014, 21:31 »

Read this about Canstockphoto before :
http://www.microstockgroup.com/canstockphoto-com/partners-of-CanStockPhoto/msg365185/#msg365185
I closed my account last week with them for that.
I have nothing wrong to say with Photodune for the moment but very low earning.
But do you really need to replace DP? I am learning it's better to stay with few stock to avoid problems for few money

noodle · « **Reply #4 on:** February 18, 2014, 22:01 »

Quote from: Allsa on February 18, 2014, 20:59

I'm thinking about leaving DP, too. I'm already on Canstock & Envato - both sites are worth it me. I'm wondering if YayMicro is worth it...

YAY has next to no sales and their PP program pays as low as 15 cent, so if you like to waste time for no return then I recommend you upload

Tryingmybest · « **Reply #5 on:** February 18, 2014, 22:54 »

Canstock is a great earner for me. Go for it.

Envato/Graphic River is a hassle for me to submit (ridiculous rejections). I don't even bother with them.

Quote from: spike on February 18, 2014, 18:05

I'm thinking of deactivating my account on DP (we all know why) and I'm looking into other options.

I submit to SS, IS (here and there), FT, DT, Alamy, P5 and BS. I stopped uploading to BS because the results from that agency are bs for me, in contrast to what the poll here says. It's not even worth to push images there for me.

Anyway, I'm wondering about canstock and photodune. Are they good earners for you, is there any particular image type that goes well on those agencies, as compared to other agencies? They are all rated lower than BS, but then again, so are DP and P5, and I earn a lot more on those agencies, then on BS. So maybe expanding would be a good idea.

Any tips, stories from your own experience? Where is the upload process the easiest (I don't wish to lose time uploading to an agency which will not give results)?

Thanks

michaeldb · « **Reply #6 on:** February 18, 2014, 23:39 »

Quote from: TheBlackRhino on February 18, 2014, 22:54

Canstock is a great earner for me.

Me too. And it's easy to submit to.

enstoker · « **Reply #7 on:** February 19, 2014, 00:58 »

CS is good for vectors ONLY.
For photos bljak.

Beppe Grillo · « **Reply #8 on:** February 19, 2014, 01:50 »

They both are not great earners for me.
But I earn 10 times more on Photodune.

spike · « **Reply #9 on:** February 19, 2014, 15:48 »

Quote from: vilainecrevette on February 18, 2014, 21:31

Read this about Canstockphoto before :
http://www.microstockgroup.com/canstockphoto-com/partners-of-CanStockPhoto/msg365185/#msg365185
I closed my account last week with them for that.
I have nothing wrong to say with Photodune for the moment but very low earning.
But do you really need to replace DP? I am learning it's better to stay with few stock to avoid problems for few money

The link just leads to the CanStockPhoto subforum?

And thanks to everyone for answers. For those of you who report good earnings with CanStockPhoto: are your portfolios vectors or photos?

Also, PD submitting process is painful? I have a whole portfolio to upload, so I'm wondering how painful exactly? iStock painful? DT painful?

vilainecrevette · « **Reply #10 on:** February 19, 2014, 16:25 »

Quote

Read this about Canstockphoto before :
http://www.microstockgroup.com/canstockphoto-com/partners-of-CanStockPhoto/msg365185/#msg365185
I closed my account last week with them for that.
I have nothing wrong to say with Photodune for the moment but very low earning.
But do you really need to replace DP? I am learning it's better to stay with few stock to avoid problems for few money

The link just leads to the CanStockPhoto subforum?

Sorry, the good link:
http://www.microstockgroup.com/canstockphoto-com/partners-of-CanStockPhoto/
PD submitting process is easy (once you understand how it work), Istock horrible, DT a little painful

pancaketom · « **Reply #11 on:** February 19, 2014, 16:31 »

PD is pretty painless if your keywords don't contain numbers or long keywords (50 characters I think). The model released images are a bit of a pain - you ftp the releases into a release folder and the images into the images folder. At least you don't have to select categories.

The initial submission is the biggest pain there I think. They also have pretty random rejections as far as I can tell - I haven't really tried to figure out what they want - they get a shot at all my stuff, but they certainly aren't worth changing my images just for them. Mostly they fall into the fire and forget category. Returns are pretty low - a bit lower than Canstock most months, but maybe more steady. on the order of 1/20th of SS and 1/5 of DT for me last year. (for each of those sites - w/ PD a little less than CS)

spike · « **Reply #12 on:** February 19, 2014, 16:46 »

Ok, if it's easy to process files for both sites, I might test my luck with both of them! If I do, I'll post results here.

@vilainecrevette, I don't really understand your link. Redirects to CanStockPhoto subforum again.

vilainecrevette · « **Reply #13 on:** February 19, 2014, 17:08 »

last try :
http://www.microstockgroup.com/21959/21959/msg365162/#msg365162
Sorry again my finger and my head don't work well, I have just disabled 1300 picture on Depositphotos in 15mn

Harvepino · « **Reply #14 on:** February 20, 2014, 05:50 »

Both, PD and CS, have always been better earners than DP in my case. Uploading is ok - no categorisations. Only model releases are a bit tricky on PD.

From my experience PD tends to favour new content, I always have peaks when uploading lots of images. But their reviewing is mysterious.

CS accepts almost everything... they seem to be more cautious about keywords than image quality.

Pixart · « **Reply #15 on:** February 20, 2014, 17:31 »

Well, I had a $25 sale on Canstock today...
For 10 minutes until they refunded it.

Curvabezier · « **Reply #16 on:** February 20, 2014, 18:10 »

Canstock works ok for me, my 4th earner right below DP. But then again, I'm mostly about vectors.

Rinderart · « **Reply #17 on:** February 21, 2014, 00:07 »

History.... CS was one of the first I joined and became useless. I waited a few years then deleted my Port. A year later I tried again. For me ....totally useless and will give up shortly. DP , for me is a good earner. This entire business comes down to cost effectiveness. A 100 Bucks a month [If that] is simply Not cost effective for me . But for some. anything is good. Not for me, and not for me for a long time. I like to give new sites a chance, I give them 6 months and thats it. No movement and Im gone. Been with 39 since 2003. Now 6 for sure and 4 new ones. Thats it. I simply cant spend the time on Maybe anymore or wannabe's. 10 years is enough, especially if Photography is your living and not a hobby.

A 100 a month is a dream for a lot of folks. God Bless. I can't go there.

stocked · « **Reply #18 on:** February 21, 2014, 10:07 »

Quote from: vilainecrevette on February 19, 2014, 17:08

last try :
http://www.microstockgroup.com/21959/21959/msg365162/#msg365162
Sorry again my finger and my head don't work well, I have just disabled 1300 picture on Depositphotos in 15mn

Wow that's fast speedy fingers

Maybe we should make a competition which one makes the fastest deactivating 'how many minutes per hundred files' record at Deposit

My average was 2.37minutes for 100files you beat me already with an average of 1.15minutes needed to deactivate hundred files. Anyone else in it for a challenge?

spike · « **Reply #19 on:** March 03, 2014, 09:55 »

So, a quick update.

I'm thrilled about PD - in three days of March, I have already earned as much as it would take me a month on BigStock.
CanStock, on the other hand, did not produce such a great result, but it's still better than BS.

In conclusion, I'm really glad that I've made this jump and I hope the results remain consistent over a larger period of time!

fritz · « **Reply #20 on:** March 03, 2014, 10:07 »

If you ask me YES

Mantis · « **Reply #21 on:** March 03, 2014, 10:30 »

Quote from: Pixart on February 20, 2014, 17:31

Well, I had a $25 sale on Canstock today...
For 10 minutes until they refunded it.

I have had a couple of those. Prop me up, push me down

JPSDK · « **Reply #22 on:** March 03, 2014, 11:42 »

I buckle out of anything that doesnt give me montly payout OR annoy me to much, that was the case with Istock.
Buckle out means that I delete, to not compete with the agencies who actually earn.
I was with Can and Deposit for a couple of months, but soon deleted. I found Can too amateurish and deposit too smooth.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #23 on:** March 04, 2014, 09:47 »

Yes I think I wanted to say something along these lines JPSDK.

Why Replace Anything?

Work more with the places that pay, instead of pissing away your efforts and time into another ocean of low paying mediocrity.

So lets see, I can replace a low earning site that makes almost nothing, with another low paying site that pays almost nothing, and spend much more time doing it, for little return?

Personal viewpoint. When I cut something, I don't replace. It's gone. I might add a new site if it shows hope or promise, but until that comes along... "Less Is More"

Quote from: JPSDK on March 03, 2014, 11:42

I buckle out of anything that doesnt give me montly payout OR annoy me to much, that was the case with Istock.
Buckle out means that I delete, to not compete with the agencies who actually earn.
I was with Can and Deposit for a couple of months, but soon deleted. I found Can too amateurish and deposit too smooth.

spike · « **Reply #24 on:** March 05, 2014, 16:27 »

CanStockPhoto noob question - does one need to apply to be included in the fotosearch results?

I see that some of you claim that they get high royalties from fotosearch, so I went to their site (thinking they are the partner/owner of CanStockPhoto) and searched for my images, but none came up.

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