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ShadySue

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« Reply #50 on: May 28, 2015, 17:26 »
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In order to access Google Webmaster Tools u need a gmail account. They r linked, so when google send u a msg through Google Webmaster Tools, that message is redirected to your gmail account too.
Right, but I don't need Google Webmaster Tools ATM. I understand how you got the message, though, I just misunderstood and thought Google had sent you an email out of the blue to tell you your site wasn't 'right' for their current SEO preference.


« Reply #51 on: May 28, 2015, 19:48 »
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In order to access Google Webmaster Tools u need a gmail account. They r linked, so when google send u a msg through Google Webmaster Tools, that message is redirected to your gmail account too.


a gmail account isn't required anymore, a google account is ... all of your google stuff basically ends up synced though ... (especially if you're using Chrome) they know absolutely everything about you. Webmaster, analytics, adsense and even your g+ page pretty much end up being a big cluster of ... googliness?

« Reply #52 on: May 28, 2015, 20:12 »
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In order to access Google Webmaster Tools u need a gmail account. They r linked, so when google send u a msg through Google Webmaster Tools, that message is redirected to your gmail account too.


a gmail account isn't required anymore, a google account is ... all of your google stuff basically ends up synced though ... (especially if you're using Chrome) they know absolutely everything about you. Webmaster, analytics, adsense and even your g+ page pretty much end up being a big cluster of ... googliness?

and use an android ... even worse ... lol

« Reply #53 on: May 28, 2015, 20:50 »
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ShadySue for the beginning try google webmaster tools, add a property(website) if u have one...Google will verify if you are the owner of the property and it will give u details about u're property(site layout,indexing status,etc) and also other messages :)))))

not true -- I don t have a gmail acct & use google webmaster all the time -- works perfectly with any email acct
« Last Edit: May 29, 2015, 13:32 by cascoly »

« Reply #54 on: May 29, 2015, 00:44 »
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jeepers creepers , yes it works perfectly with any mail account ....better gmail  :o

« Reply #55 on: May 29, 2015, 00:45 »
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btw - google started Google Photos - for now Instagram or Flickr can be affected, then will see

« Reply #56 on: May 29, 2015, 18:08 »
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btw - google started Google Photos - for now Instagram or Flickr can be affected, then will see

Ugh!  Now I hear the JAWS music starting in the background.

WeatherENG

« Reply #57 on: June 04, 2015, 10:15 »
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I am not so sure Google has sunk the entire stock market, yes clip views are down, sales are down, there have been some changes but this video blocks site that's giving away good content for free might be the problem not Google.

Just did a search for severe weather which is my specialty btw and on the front page I found this clip, 12728 downloads for FREE, can't compete with free or with videoblocks unless you have something very niche that they aren't giving away for free, sure they have a marketplace but let's just say if I was telling the story of how fast supercell thunderstorm clouds develop I would not have to go to any paid marketplace after seeing this free clip. This is where our clipviews and sales are going.

https://www.videoblocks.com/video/giant-clouds-billow-into-the-sky/?sguid=c331cf82-d2d8-48a1-9ff0-8a7c193b2884&sslid=4b3d99c6-584f-4f29-aab6-e9a208dfd974&tab=subscription

« Reply #58 on: June 07, 2015, 05:33 »
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from the very start google's model was all about leeching and profiting from someone else content giving nothing back apart the inclusion of their links in google's serps and ranks which for a while it happened to be a good thing but nowadays it's backfiring considering there's so much content around that it became dime a dozen in the eyes of the average users and that's exactly why you have to pay to see your brand on top of their search results !


PZF

« Reply #59 on: June 08, 2015, 05:18 »
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yes...seems this site went 'live' in April 2015....
But is it different from the others? You upload stuff and get paid when it is downloaded (without them taking a huge percentage).
I'm sure I'm missing something....and will put my tin hat on.....

WeatherENG

« Reply #60 on: June 08, 2015, 20:38 »
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yes...seems this site went 'live' in April 2015....
But is it different from the others? You upload stuff and get paid when it is downloaded (without them taking a huge percentage).
I'm sure I'm missing something....and will put my tin hat on.....
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Seems they have a large collection of free content and then a paid marketplace, so if someone can't find what they are looking for in their free library they can go look in the paid section and then the customer pays for individual files they download.

Except for short term promotions to lure customers, I don't believe in giving away products for free unless it's to a legitimate charity, in the case of video, if a charity was producing a gripping PSA on the dire needs of the homeless and could not afford to buy video then I would consider giving away a clip but otherwise no, no. No free product.

M

http://www.pond5.com/stock-video-footage-sound-effects-music-after-effects-photos-illustrations-images-3d-models/1/artist%3AWeatherENG.html#1

http://www.pond5.com/artist/WeatherENG

« Reply #61 on: June 08, 2015, 21:48 »
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   I think there is a flaw in your theory. Most serious microstock buyers don't use Google to search for an image to buy. They use their favorite agency. In fact, most of the big advertising agencies have contracts with Shutterstock, iStock, Dreamstime, etc. The search results for an image within the agency, doesn't involve Google.

That's what I've always thought.  I don't imagine many serious buyers use google to find an image.

The only people who use google to find images are not looking to buy them.

Just licensed an RM image this morning via Photoshelter and asked the buyer how he found it: Google.
I had it priced for sale but not for the use he wanted so he emailed me to purchase the proper license. Many people use google to find images - if they find them for sale, fortunately the honest ones buy (license) them.

I'm sure many new buyers find SS or DT or iS the first time via a google search.

« Reply #62 on: June 08, 2015, 23:57 »
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Just licensed an RM image this morning via Photoshelter and asked the buyer how he found it: Google.
I had it priced for sale but not for the use he wanted so he emailed me to purchase the proper license. Many people use google to find images - if they find them for sale, fortunately the honest ones buy (license) them.

I'm sure many new buyers find SS or DT or iS the first time via a google search.

Slightly OT, do you get regular sales through Photoshelter?  Do they have pretty good SEO? 

I am getting NO sales for months on my own site.  Don't have the time to invest in SEO for thousands of images.  I've been considering Photoshelter and wondered if it might attract more buyers. 

« Reply #63 on: November 25, 2015, 10:25 »
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With the latest update to its Penguin algorithm, Google has sunk the entire stock market.
(...)
Most agencies are trying a new look more friendly for their "daddy" google , others have already operated a sum of changes and
(...)
What do you think?

Google has not sunk just the stock image market but these b*stards sink everything they get their bloody hands on. And while they're at it, they kind-of dictate how websites ought to look: "responsive" being the latest craze right now. Arrrrrgh. As if people started to, all of a sudden, ditch their comfortable desktops and workplace PCs and workstations just in order to jerk it on a "smartphone" or equally "smart" tablet or the like.

The degree of market dominance and ability of cornering the market Google is enjoying -- and abusing -- is never a good thing. In so far, a market rebound is definitely desirable (and needed)!

You are spot on @Suliman Razvan, this sssucks beyond belief, and being the user-unfriendly greedy corporation they are, Google are in bed with the US govt at the same time feeding "Big Brother" in a way George Orwell would never have thought possible (particularly the NSA and DHS, just read the horror stories of SWAT teams barging through your door after "googling" this or that)...

At the same time, Google are doing a very mediocre job at their supposed*) core business (search), if you look at it more closely -- or is anyone here satisfied with the "results" they serve when you search for some "image of xyz"?!

It seems about time the market demands a replacement for this exploitative corporation and their "services". Yes, there are Alexa (with their own problems) or Duck-Duck-Go and Yandex, but a nicer layout and certain novel features are what's also needed. What do you guys think?
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*) because they are actually an Advertising agency, I know, but...
« Last Edit: November 25, 2015, 10:34 by lex-icon »

« Reply #64 on: November 25, 2015, 10:34 »
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With the latest update to its Penguin algorithm, Google has sunk the entire stock market.
(...)
Most agencies are trying a new look more friendly for their "daddy" google , others have already operated a sum of changes and
(...)
What do you think?

Google has not sunk just the stock image market but these b*stards sink everything they get their bloody hands on. And while they're at it, they kind-of dictate how websites ought to look: "responsive" being the latest craze now. Arrrrrgh. As if people started to, all of a sudden, ditch their comfortable desktops and workplace PCs and workstations just in order to jerk it on a "smartphone" or equally "smart" tablet or the like.

You are spot on @Suliman Razvan, this sssucks beyond belief, and being the user-unfriendly greedy corporation they are, Google are in bed with the US govt at the same time feeding "Big Brother" in a way George Orwell would never have thought possible (particularly the NSA and DHS, just read the horror stories of SWAT teams barging through your door after "googling" this or that)...

At the same time, Google are doing a very mediocre job at their supposed*) core business (search), if you look at it more closely -- or is anyone here satisfied with the "results" they serve when you search for some "image of xyz"?!

It seems about time the market demands a replacement for this exploitative corporation and their "services". Yes, there are Alexa (with their own problems) or Duck-Duck-Go and Yandex, but a nicer layout and certain novel features are what's also needed. What do you guys think?
---
*) because they are actually an Advertising agency, I know, but...
I agree with a lot of what you say. I do I search now and half the time end up with useless listings from yellow pages or smoother 2nd or 3rd tier site. How is this useful? The "new look" that's out there has gotten old really quickly. Every thing looks the same. How can so much brain power produce such banal crap?

« Reply #65 on: November 25, 2015, 15:31 »
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I've never understood why google hasn't got into the image stock market? It would be pretty bad for us but just think if people could buy images and video via a simple web search? It's such a huge industry I'm surprised google haven't done an adobe thing and try to become a monopoly in this industry?

« Reply #66 on: November 26, 2015, 18:43 »
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   I think there is a flaw in your theory. Most serious microstock buyers don't use Google to search for an image to buy. They use their favorite agency. In fact, most of the big advertising agencies have contracts with Shutterstock, iStock, Dreamstime, etc. The search results for an image within the agency, doesn't involve Google.

whether *serious* or not -- microstock buyers, or in fact ALL image buyers, deserve a whole lot better than what Google and other present-day search engines are offering!

Like with microstock specifically, a new approach is needed with reasonable image search in general. Nobody wants to get swamped by millions of "hits" that turn out to be nothing more than garbage and time-wasters. Just think about an editor and how pissed they must be working with "tools" like Google listing everything as a hit regardless of you looked for that kind of image or not.


« Reply #67 on: November 29, 2015, 22:31 »
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   I think there is a flaw in your theory. Most serious microstock buyers don't use Google to search for an image to buy. They use their favorite agency. In fact, most of the big advertising agencies have contracts with Shutterstock, iStock, Dreamstime, etc. The search results for an image within the agency, doesn't involve Google.

whether *serious* or not -- microstock buyers, or in fact ALL image buyers, deserve a whole lot better than what Google and other present-day search engines are offering!

Like with microstock specifically, a new approach is needed with reasonable image search in general. Nobody wants to get swamped by millions of "hits" that turn out to be nothing more than garbage and time-wasters. Just think about an editor and how pissed they must be working with "tools" like Google listing everything as a hit regardless of you looked for that kind of image or not.

You are saying the feeble and lame keyword searches on IS or SS are an example of how to find a reasonable search in general? Speaking of time wasters, categories,  keywords that are resorted by the agencies and CV. You honestly think Google because what they are by being flawed and poorly designed. That's just what made them first in the searches over all the rest. Best results, intuitive responses.


 

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