Author Topic: Santa Claus Needs a "Subject Release". Seriously? (Read 14565 times)

illstudio · « **on:** December 03, 2016, 12:09 »

DT says my DRAWING illustration of Santa Claus needs a subject release... Really?
Are they kidding me?? Or maybe (even worse) they want a property release of his North Pole house in the drawing...

I resubmitted with to editor comment:
"Santa Claus is a fictional character in public domain. Also I don't think I need a property release for his fictional north pole residence either... lol"

This made my day.

Dumc · « **Reply #1 on:** December 03, 2016, 12:24 »

Maybe you should re-submit with release and with "Santa Claus" signed in it. That would be even funnier...

noodle · « **Reply #2 on:** December 03, 2016, 13:27 »

Reviewers could be from far east who would probably accept the signed MR

Pauws99 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 03, 2016, 17:16 »

Santa Claus a fictional character!!!?

....oh no my life is in tatters people on this forum are so cynical......

Giveme5 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 03, 2016, 17:36 »

Here is his current address for my release-

Santa's Address
Santa Claus
325 S. Santa Claus Lane
North Pole, Alaska 99705

You can use Mr. Claus or Kris Kringle for the name.

Nothing like the holiday sprite...

sweetgirll · « **Reply #5 on:** December 03, 2016, 17:37 »

Did you mean a property release?

But some microstock, like Shutterstock, requires that you provide a release form signed for physical paintings that were scanned, such as illustraitons, paintings and drawings that were not created in the computer.

The property release is not for the North pole location, but is for your physical painting.

Quote from: illstudio on December 03, 2016, 12:09

DT says my DRAWING illustration of Santa Claus needs a subject release... Really?
Are they kidding me?? Or maybe (even worse) they want a property release of his North Pole house in the drawing...

I resubmitted with to editor comment:
"Santa Claus is a fictional character in public domain. Also I don't think I need a property release for his fictional north pole residence either... lol"

This made my day.

YadaYadaYada · « **Reply #6 on:** December 03, 2016, 18:31 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on December 03, 2016, 17:16

Santa Claus a fictional character!!!?....oh no my life is in tatters people on this forum are so cynical......

Yeah same guy goes around telling people there's no Easter Bunny! Santa is real, I've seen him flying through the Winter night.

Subject release or artists property release?

illstudio · « **Reply #7 on:** December 04, 2016, 01:15 »

"Subject Release"

illstudio · « **Reply #8 on:** December 04, 2016, 01:18 »

Quote from: sweetgirll on December 03, 2016, 17:37

Did you mean a property release?

But some microstock, like Shutterstock, requires that you provide a release form signed for physical paintings that were scanned, such as illustraitons, paintings and drawings that were not created in the computer.

The property release is not for the North pole location, but is for your physical painting.

Quote from: illstudio on December 03, 2016, 12:09
DT says my DRAWING illustration of Santa Claus needs a subject release... Really?
Are they kidding me?? Or maybe (even worse) they want a property release of his North Pole house in the drawing...

I resubmitted with to editor comment:
"Santa Claus is a fictional character in public domain. Also I don't think I need a property release for his fictional north pole residence either... lol"

This made my day.

No Ive submitted other original art without the slightest problem, in fact one with Santa in a sleigh.

gyllens · « **Reply #9 on:** December 04, 2016, 02:17 »

Actually the official home of Santa is on the border of the very north of Sweden and Finland.

Microstockphoto · « **Reply #10 on:** December 04, 2016, 03:46 »

subject release is a new one, probably a non english speaker

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #11 on:** December 04, 2016, 06:13 »

Quote from: Microstockphoto on December 04, 2016, 03:46

subject release is a new one, probably a non english speaker

Surely the rejection reasons are all standardised one-click buttons? It would waste a lot of reviewer time if they had to type them individually.

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #12 on:** December 04, 2016, 06:37 »

http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/question-about-release-for-artwork/msg467835/#msg467835

I refer you back to your own thread last time this came up. They want proof you drew it.

Giveme5 · « **Reply #13 on:** December 04, 2016, 07:53 »

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on December 03, 2016, 18:31

Quote from: Pauws99 on December 03, 2016, 17:16
Santa Claus a fictional character!!!?....oh no my life is in tatters people on this forum are so cynical......

Yeah same guy goes around telling people there's no Easter Bunny! Santa is real, I've seen him flying through the Winter night.

What are you putting in your eggnog? I need some of that

illstudio · « **Reply #14 on:** December 04, 2016, 11:07 »

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on December 04, 2016, 06:37

http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/question-about-release-for-artwork/msg467835/#msg467835

I refer you back to your own thread last time this came up. They want proof you drew it.

Nope. Cause DT has multiple illustrations of mine accepted NOT asking for proof of originality. And as I mentioned one is of Santa in a sleigh.

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #15 on:** December 04, 2016, 12:20 »

They don't always ask for it, depends on the reviewer, but it happens quite frequently.

ETA. Just checked, you only have a handful of illustrations, this happens every now and then. Fill in their property release for them and upload it or ignore it and move on. They probably wont ask for one for your next illustration.

etudiante_rapide · « **Reply #16 on:** December 04, 2016, 13:26 »

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on December 03, 2016, 18:31

Quote from: Pauws99 on December 03, 2016, 17:16
Santa Claus a fictional character!!!?....oh no my life is in tatters people on this forum are so cynical......

Yeah same guy goes around telling people there's no Easter Bunny! Santa is real, I've seen him flying through the Winter night.

Subject release or artists property release?

it won't help you this year, but you can surely get him to sign the MR on dec 24th
when you leave him cookies under the tree,
leave a MR with a note "please sign the model release, Mr. Claus,
and get rudolph or an elf to witness it, thx!!!"

microstockinsider · « **Reply #17 on:** December 04, 2016, 20:28 »

Santa Claus is a bit of a minefield, http://www.theipcenter.com/2015/01/in-the-name-of-santa-claus-trademark-law/ but I cant find a reference to a specific rights holder in the Getty IP wiki, is probably someone at DT being a bit overly cautious. (guessing as i've not seen the drawing) coca cola famously have their (quite recognizable) Christmas santa protected

k_t_g · « **Reply #18 on:** December 05, 2016, 00:05 »

Quote from: gyllens on December 04, 2016, 02:17

Actually the official home of Santa is on the border of the very north of Sweden and Finland.

Also has a summer home in Canada's North pole.

Yup sounds like the over kill doings of Shutterstock.

YadaYadaYada · « **Reply #19 on:** December 05, 2016, 10:17 »

Quote from: Microstockphoto on December 04, 2016, 03:46

subject release is a new one, probably a non english speaker

I asked because I've never heard of or seen a subject release? Model release, property release, http://www.shutterstock.com/blog/contributor-resources/legal/stock-image-releases/

Microstockphoto · « **Reply #20 on:** December 05, 2016, 10:26 »

Baldrick, i know, but you do get manual replies when you contact support, i thought the op had done that. if it is an automated rejection that says subject release, then its a new rejection reason

sweetgirll · « **Reply #21 on:** December 05, 2016, 12:23 »

I never heard of subject release either...
this is not a standard term in the industry.
It is either model release or property release.

But the OP is with Dreamstime not Shutterstock.

I searched Dreams for a "subject" release but couldn't find it.

I saw his black and white drawings and is possible that previous Reviewers got approved without releases because they might thought some were drawn directly on photoshop or adobe illustrator.

Usually anything that is scanned will request a property release...at least this is the case with Shutterstock and they are very strict about it.

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on December 05, 2016, 10:17

Quote from: Microstockphoto on December 04, 2016, 03:46
subject release is a new one, probably a non english speaker

I asked because I've never heard of or seen a subject release? Model release, property release, http://www.shutterstock.com/blog/contributor-resources/legal/stock-image-releases/

etudiante_rapide · « **Reply #22 on:** December 05, 2016, 14:09 »

Quote from: sweetgirll on December 05, 2016, 12:23

I never heard of subject release either...

I saw his black and white drawings and is possible that previous Reviewers got approved without releases because they might thought some were drawn directly on photoshop or adobe illustrator.

Usually anything that is scanned will request a property release...at least this is the case with Shutterstock and they are very strict about it.

ah, good point. yes, i do remember in the glorydays of dreamstime with carmen,etc(..,... before they went ballistic on similars... when that time i decided to leave due to the ridiculous limits...)
that they did require something like that for silhouettes,etc..
it must be that they suspected this is not straight off design , but more a copy from a photo,etc..

illstudio · « **Reply #23 on:** December 06, 2016, 11:22 »

I got a response , they now want a PROPERTY release.

Red On · « **Reply #24 on:** December 08, 2016, 18:08 »

I my first batch for microstock, there was a photograph of two pidgeon on a wire and only sky as background. Was refused because without personal release. I don't know if they are stupid or idiot

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