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Title: Search analysis as a method of image tagging
Post by: raresaturn on January 31, 2015, 06:07
Saw this and thought it might be useful...thousands of searches on Dreamstime and Pond5, and the number of images found for each search

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Title: Re: Search analysis as a method of image tagging
Post by: Justanotherphotographer on January 31, 2015, 06:32
Wow thanks for thinking of us, and your first post too!

Does the list also tell us how many times each search has been made?
Title: Re: Search analysis as a method of image tagging
Post by: amabu on January 31, 2015, 06:42
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However, If I search for "lazers" only 24 pics are tagged.  This is a niche you can dominate.

Is that the niche of spelling mistakes?  ;D
Title: Re: Search analysis as a method of image tagging
Post by: raresaturn on January 31, 2015, 07:00
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However, If I search for "lazers" only 24 pics are tagged.  This is a niche you can dominate.


Is that the niche of spelling mistakes?  ;D


sure, why not?  http://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/lazers.html (http://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/lazers.html)

Title: Re: Search analysis as a method of image tagging
Post by: ShadySue on January 31, 2015, 07:04
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However, If I search for "lazers" only 24 pics are tagged.  This is a niche you can dominate.

Is that the niche of spelling mistakes?  ;D
In sites where it's possible, it's smart to include common spelling mistakes, especially if the site doesn't offer any sensible alternatives to the typo/mistake. Also alternate US/English spellings.
Title: Re: Search analysis as a method of image tagging
Post by: amabu on January 31, 2015, 07:54
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However, If I search for "lazers" only 24 pics are tagged.  This is a niche you can dominate.


Is that the niche of spelling mistakes?  ;D


sure, why not?  [url]http://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/lazers.html[/url] ([url]http://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/lazers.html[/url])


Because it is not a niche if you use the correct spelling: http://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/laser.html (http://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/laser.html)
Title: Re: Search analysis as a method of image tagging
Post by: raresaturn on January 31, 2015, 07:58
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However, If I search for "lazers" only 24 pics are tagged.  This is a niche you can dominate.


Is that the niche of spelling mistakes?  ;D


sure, why not?  [url]http://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/lazers.html[/url] ([url]http://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/lazers.html[/url])


Because it is not a niche if you use the correct spelling: [url]http://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/laser.html[/url] ([url]http://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/laser.html[/url])


So?  The idea is to avoid tags with thousands of results.  If you can find meaningful tags which lead to only a handful of images then you're laughing
Title: Re: Search analysis as a method of image tagging
Post by: amabu on January 31, 2015, 08:00
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However, If I search for "lazers" only 24 pics are tagged.  This is a niche you can dominate.

Is that the niche of spelling mistakes?  ;D
In sites where it's possible, it's smart to include common spelling mistakes, especially if the site doesn't offer any sensible alternatives to the typo/mistake. Also alternate US/English spellings.

I agree about alternate spellings. But arenīt you usually against keyword spamming?
Title: Re: Search analysis as a method of image tagging
Post by: amabu on January 31, 2015, 08:03
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However, If I search for "lazers" only 24 pics are tagged.  This is a niche you can dominate.


Is that the niche of spelling mistakes?  ;D


sure, why not?  [url]http://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/lazers.html[/url] ([url]http://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/lazers.html[/url])


Because it is not a niche if you use the correct spelling: [url]http://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/laser.html[/url] ([url]http://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/laser.html[/url])


So?  The idea is to avoid tags with thousands of results.  If you can find meaningful tags which lead to only a handful of images then you're laughing


But "lazers" is not meaningful! If you just make up words there are plenty of "niches" with 0 results...
Title: Re: Search analysis as a method of image tagging
Post by: raresaturn on January 31, 2015, 08:21
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However, If I search for "lazers" only 24 pics are tagged.  This is a niche you can dominate.


Is that the niche of spelling mistakes?  ;D


sure, why not?  [url]http://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/lazers.html[/url] ([url]http://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/lazers.html[/url])


Because it is not a niche if you use the correct spelling: [url]http://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/laser.html[/url] ([url]http://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/laser.html[/url])


So?  The idea is to avoid tags with thousands of results.  If you can find meaningful tags which lead to only a handful of images then you're laughing


But "lazers" is not meaningful! If you just make up words there are plenty of "niches" with 0 results...


It is meaningful to the person who typed it into the search box....remember these are real searches, not made up words.  They may be typos or alternate spellings, but that is what these people were searching for.
Title: Re: Search analysis as a method of image tagging
Post by: Justanotherphotographer on January 31, 2015, 08:23
Why can't you just honestly say that this is your product rather than coming on here pretending you stumbled across it. Especially when it is on that den of thieves, fiverr?

It's infuriating.
Title: Re: Search analysis as a method of image tagging
Post by: Red Dove on January 31, 2015, 09:17
Worthless - correct spelling.
Title: Re: Search analysis as a method of image tagging
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on January 31, 2015, 10:11
All sites generally have terms that prohibit this kind of thing:
"You may not ... use any data mining, robots or similar data gathering and extraction tools on or at the Website or use any other automated means to access the Website;"
Title: Re: Search analysis as a method of image tagging
Post by: ShadySue on February 02, 2015, 07:17
Spam is putting pear on a photo of an isolated apple, thereby polluting searches on 'pear'.Putting lazer as an alternative spelling isn't spam as there us no real 'lazer' search to be polluted.  Presumably someone searching for lazer is actually looking for laser images.
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However, If I search for "lazers" only 24 pics are tagged.  This is a niche you can dominate.

Is that the niche of spelling mistakes?  ;D
In sites where it's possible, it's smart to include common spelling mistakes, especially if the site doesn't offer any sensible alternatives to the typo/mistake. Also alternate US/English spellings.

I agree about alternate spellings. But arenīt you usually against keyword spamming?