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Title: Shooting tethered
Post by: donding on January 17, 2010, 21:29
Any of you shot tethered. I never have but was doing research on it and here are a few sites with pretty good explanation and tethering software..

http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1207 (http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1207)

http://thephotogeek.com/choosing-nikon-dslr-camera-tethered-shooting-software/#DIYPhotobits (http://thephotogeek.com/choosing-nikon-dslr-camera-tethered-shooting-software/#DIYPhotobits)

I've never tryed it but I'd sure like the ability to see those images on a computor monitor

Title: Re: Shooting tethered
Post by: madelaide on January 18, 2010, 04:40
We had a thread about this not long ago.
Title: Re: Shooting tethered
Post by: Stu49 on January 18, 2010, 05:08
Any of you shot tethered. I never have but was doing research on it and here are a few sites with pretty good explanation and tethering software..

[url]http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1207[/url] ([url]http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1207[/url])

[url]http://thephotogeek.com/choosing-nikon-dslr-camera-tethered-shooting-software/#DIYPhotobits[/url] ([url]http://thephotogeek.com/choosing-nikon-dslr-camera-tethered-shooting-software/#DIYPhotobits[/url])

I've never tryed it but I'd sure like the ability to see those images on a computor monitor


I use it all the time, it works well for indoor shots, isolated objects and the like :)

You can buffer the shots until u see what u like, then start saving to Lightroom, which is great  :D

Title: Re: Shooting tethered
Post by: Perry on January 18, 2010, 06:02
We had a thread about this not long ago.


Yes, and I answered there http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-photography-discussion/do-you-shoot-tethered/ (http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-photography-discussion/do-you-shoot-tethered/)
Title: Re: Shooting tethered
Post by: Randy McKown on January 18, 2010, 10:15
The thing to think about is .. will a given procedure increase your productivity?

Take these examples. A portrait photographer can transmit during a session to a workstation that is being manned by a retoucher who keeps up with the flow, selecting the best shots and preparing them for the sales presentation. Moments after the client has finished the session and gathered up their belongings the sales presentation is ready to go and the photographer increases their sales by keeping the excitement of the day flowing non-stop and leaving them less time to think about their other bills, etc. In this case the method is an awesome idea.

Now take a photographer who is working alone shooting stock products. They take a few shots .. stop to go look at the monitor and flip through what they took .. go back and shoot more .. go back and flip through what they are doing .. they do this again and again. That's a lot of time totally wasted simply because they are not familiar with their equipment, technique or just don't have a well-planned out strategy of what they are doing. In this case the photographer should work on their skill by forcing themselves to get the shot without running in circles. Sit down and really put some mental effort into determining what makes a good composition, how to get a dead on exposure 99% of the time, etc. Then when it comes time to do a shoot, their productivity is efficient. They get the job done and slam out more high end photos in less time. Takes a lot of determination but in the long run it pays off.

Just my opinion but then again I don't even bother looking at the LCD on the camera when shooting. I can see tethering working in given situations provided that it is increasing productivity and not slowing you down and developing lazy habits.
Title: Re: Shooting tethered
Post by: donding on January 18, 2010, 10:55
I personally shoot a bunch of shots then have to sit at the computor to sort through them to decide which shot is the best then go through editing. I would perfer to see the shots as I take them so I can see which ones are useable and be able to change what ever it is I'm doing wrong right then and there. For me I think it would be more helpful. I would have that monitor next to the area I'm shooting at. I would be using it to do stock not studio.
Title: Re: Shooting tethered
Post by: Randy McKown on January 18, 2010, 11:25
learn to see it in your head .. be one with the stock  ;)
Title: Re: Shooting tethered
Post by: Perry on January 18, 2010, 11:40
Now take a photographer who is working alone shooting stock products. They take a few shots .. stop to go look at the monitor and flip through what they took .. go back and shoot more .. go back and flip through what they are doing .. they do this again and again.

Sorry, I don't agree with you. Tethered shooting allows me to shoot much faster, and in the post everything is much easier because I already have seen the image on a larger screen and already know the issues with each image. Much better than some nasty suprises.

One thing I haven't been able to see in camera's tiny screen is the depth of field. For example it's really difficult to judge if stopping down would benefit the image or not. When shooting tethered it's very easy.

That's a lot of time totally wasted simply because they are not familiar with their equipment, technique or just don't have a well-planned out strategy of what they are doing. In this case the photographer should work on their skill by forcing themselves to get the shot without running in circles. Sit down and really put some mental effort into determining what makes a good composition,

Yes, but what if you COMBINE skill and tethered shooting?

Just my opinion but then again I don't even bother looking at the LCD on the camera when shooting. I can see tethering working in given situations provided that it is increasing productivity and not slowing you down and developing lazy habits.

Tethered shooting really increases productivity for me, I get my "keeper" much faster. Lazy habits? Maybe... :)
Title: Re: Shooting tethered
Post by: donding on January 18, 2010, 11:42
learn to see it in your head .. be one with the stock  ;)
The proper composition I can do....a least most of the time.. :), it's the lighting and proper point of focus I have sometimes have a problem with. They look right on the LCD on the camera but alot of times when looking at them at full view they don't look as good on the monitor. It is time consuming for me to have to zoom in on the camera. Maybe it's my computor monitor. Never really thought of that untill just now. I do calibrate it with Huey.
Title: Re: Shooting tethered
Post by: Randy McKown on January 18, 2010, 12:06
One thing I haven't been able to see in camera's tiny screen is the depth of field. For example it's really difficult to judge if stopping down would benefit the image or not. When shooting tethered it's very easy.

I suppose it has to do with when and how you learn. When I learned photography there was no LCD on the body, computer monitors, etc. We used mental mathematics right before we clicked the shutter to determine our DOF, exposure, everything. You just learned to know your result before actually seeing your result and after awhile it just becomes nature to see the final image in your head.

Like I said tethering can be useful in a given situation. A person just doesn't want to get to the point where they have to rely on a process because then it only holds them back.
Title: Re: Shooting tethered
Post by: Perry on January 18, 2010, 12:12
I suppose it has to do with when and how you learn. When I learned photography there was no LCD on the body, computer monitors, etc. We used mental mathematics right before we clicked the shutter to determine our DOF, exposure, everything. You just learned to know your result before actually seeing your result and after awhile it just becomes nature to see the final image in your head.

Yes, I know the principles and even the mathematics. And I have also gone the film route. The problem is that you can't calculate the FEEL of the image. Who knows - maybe some of your images would have been even better if you had opened your aperture ½ stops. But you can never know because you don't even try :D
Title: Re: Shooting tethered
Post by: donding on January 18, 2010, 12:17
One thing I haven't been able to see in camera's tiny screen is the depth of field. For example it's really difficult to judge if stopping down would benefit the image or not. When shooting tethered it's very easy.

I suppose it has to do with when and how you learn. When I learned photography there was no LCD on the body, computer monitors, etc. We used mental mathematics right before we clicked the shutter to determine our DOF, exposure, everything. You just learned to know your result before actually seeing your result and after awhile it just becomes nature to see the final image in your head.

Like I said tethering can be useful in a given situation. A person just doesn't want to get to the point where they have to rely on a process because then it only holds them back.
Sorry forgot to type. I never use the LCD except to preview. As for candid shots obviuosly you'd have to shoot from the hip. I agree you have to have the ability to do that. I just wish I could do that with the stock, but I can't seem to do it.
Title: Re: Shooting tethered
Post by: cathyslife on January 18, 2010, 12:18
I use a combination of both...I get the "feel" for the shot while I am composing and shooting. I shoot tethered and double-check my point of focus and technical aspects using the software before I tear down for a new shoot.
Title: Re: Shooting tethered
Post by: RT on January 18, 2010, 12:21
When I learned photography there was no LCD on the body, computer monitors, etc. We used mental mathematics right before we clicked the shutter to determine our DOF, exposure, everything.

Luckily in the early sixties they invented the exposure meter and then everyone used them, when I did my three year photography course before the advent of digital everyone used exposure meters as well, and we even had one of those new fandangled flash thingy's where you didn't need to replace the bulb every time.

As for shooting tethered, I often shoot thethered and if you go into any top level professional studio and you'll find they also shoot tethered (cable or wireless) I wonder why they do that, guess were all lazy!
Title: Re: Shooting tethered
Post by: Jonathan Ross on January 18, 2010, 12:25
 Hi All,

 No, It is to slow for me. We shoot tethered on our motion work sometimes but that slows things down as well especially if you move around a lot on your shoots which I do a great deal of. I think it just needs to fit your style.

Best,
Jonathan
Title: Re: Shooting tethered
Post by: donding on January 18, 2010, 12:28
I think I'll give it a try just to see what happens. I may and may not like it, but unless I try it I'll never know.
Title: Re: Shooting tethered
Post by: Randy McKown on January 18, 2010, 12:33

Luckily in the early sixties they invented the exposure meter and then everyone used them, when I did my three year photography course before the advent of digital everyone used exposure meters as well, and we even had one of those new fandangled flash thingy's where you didn't need to replace the bulb every time.


fandangled flash thingy's  .. LOL nice one  ;D ... ok that's it I'm bustin out the brownie box
Title: Re: Shooting tethered
Post by: cathyslife on January 18, 2010, 13:20
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I think I'll give it a try just to see what happens. I may and may not like it, but unless I try it I'll never know.

That would be a good idea. Everybody's workflow is different, and if you ask 10 people you will get 10 different opinions on the correct way to do things.  :D
Title: Re: Shooting tethered
Post by: Graffoto on January 18, 2010, 23:56
I don't shot tethered unless you consider the fact that I'm married  ;D

Seems to work out okay for this fellow though [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_hcHEWNChY&feature=related[/youtube]
Title: Re: Shooting tethered
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on January 19, 2010, 09:39
Luckily in the early sixties they invented the exposure meter and then everyone used them, when I did my three year photography course before the advent of digital everyone used exposure meters as well, and we even had one of those new fandangled flash thingy's where you didn't need to replace the bulb every time.

Didn't those flash things blind the bird inside the magic box chipping away at the rock plate?
Title: Re: Shooting tethered
Post by: Graffoto on January 19, 2010, 10:28
Luckily in the early sixties they invented the exposure meter and then everyone used them, when I did my three year photography course before the advent of digital everyone used exposure meters as well, and we even had one of those new fandangled flash thingy's where you didn't need to replace the bulb every time.

Didn't those flash things blind the bird inside the magic box chipping away at the rock plate?

Ya know, the blinding was only temporary, but the smell form the singed feathers was nasty!