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Microstock Photography Forum - General => General Stock Discussion => Topic started by: oscarcwilliams on February 11, 2017, 00:57
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Do you think Shutterstock will remain #1 with all the changes lately, and will Fotolia overcome them?
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Oh I am not worried about fotolia or any other agency. The things that will ground them eventually is the usual such as internal problems. Lately there have been some rumors about a re-shuffle at the top and after what one have read some old dependable people have either left or got fired?
I am guessing you understand.
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FL is a long way from overtaking SS but gaining ground. They could do it in a year or two.
I am not bothered really. What does worry me is if IS gains ground by undercutting the competition. There were signs sales there were increasing when I stopped uploading. This would be a disaster for overall income as they pay so much worse and could also end in a price/ commission cutting war.
Have I mentioned stop uploading to istock?
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Yes I have stopped uploading to Istock.
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So many people have left istock, it might seem that those left are making more money but hopefully it's just bigger slices of a shrinking cake. If buyers continue to leave, those still using istock wont be making much in the future.
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Well, nothing lasts forever but for the foreseeable future I guess they will remain #1.
Although Shutterstock are trying hard to lose their place, they won't succeed because the other sites are trying even harder, iStock being the greatest in that path.
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So many people have left istock, it might seem that those left are making more money but hopefully it's just bigger slices of a shrinking cake. If buyers continue to leave, those still using istock wont be making much in the future.
They will also be stealing buyers from other sites now they can discount down to paying us 2c per dl. I already have multiple sales per month from their pp for 7 or 8c. I have to ask any independent contributor what istock would have to do for them to stop uploading if they haven't already? There's years of evidence now of the sort of company they are and the depths they will stoop to to squeeze every cent out of us. If we continue to upload there we deserve that treatment and will be getting the same from all the other agencies before too long.
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Do you think Shutterstock will remain #1 with all the changes lately, and will Fotolia overcome them?
I think that if the story continues in this way all microstock sites will become last
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FT is now #1 for me. It was inching closer and closer for months and then it finally took the top spot. It continues to improve consistently while SS fluctuates with all the changes.
Maybe SS will take back the top stop. They certainly has the potential to.
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Fotolia has already become #1 for me
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All the microstocks are slowing down it's very noticeable
Market saturation is the most likely culprit and the poor treatement of contributors so now they rely on the facotries churningout the same old stuff and a flood of poor quality from new contributors
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Yes, SS is still #1 for me.
I'm more curious about IS being #2. Since most people have been unable to check earnings since Dec last year. ???
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60% right now...
well, that's exactly where my earning has been for over a year now..
or more like since they went public..
shortfall of 40% .
...which is like they expected, or promised their shareholders they get a bigger chunk of the cash
while the contributors get 60% of usual.
come to think of it, when they reduced the $75 payout to $35, it is just about that...
60%, more or less.
and when they reduced the entry criterion from 7/10 to 1/10 .. well, 7-1= 6
six off ten comes to 60 % LOL
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They are yet again messing with the sort order as if it wan't bad enough.Portfolios and new uploads disappearing and so on. Thinking about this if Adobe was clever they would force their absolute best and most downloaded and most commercial files right up front for a couple of weeks and since so many heavy contributors are unhappy with SS right now. Well who knows maybe Adobe would gain quite a bit?
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They are yet again messing with the sort order as if it wan't bad enough.Portfolios and new uploads disappearing and so on. Thinking about this if Adobe was clever they would force their absolute best and most downloaded and most commercial files right up front for a couple of weeks and since so many heavy contributors are unhappy with SS right now. Well who knows maybe Adobe would gain quite a bit?
Maybe buyers are fed up with buying the same old stuff ...just a thought.
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SS is still number one for me, with Canva and FT nipping at their heels. However, so far this year SS is at about 50% of last year's average, and Canva is down about 30%. FT doubled last year compared to the year before and so far this month is looking good - still behind the other two but gaining as they drop. Over all agencies this year is very bad so far. I'm not expecting it to improve.
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SS is still number one for me, with Canva and FT nipping at their heels. However, so far this year SS is at about 50% of last year's average, and Canva is down about 30%. FT doubled last year compared to the year before and so far this month is looking good - still behind the other two but gaining as they drop. Over all agencies this year is very bad so far. I'm not expecting it to improve.
hmm, really??? so, from the right column, the increase in fotolia, envato and pond has nothing to do with ss going down 40%.
personally. i too would not consider making bright predictions for 2017 for the others, since
as we all know, Alamy used to be shooting up into the 3rd place awhile ago, and their
contributors were all cheering . now it's back to single digit.
i don' t think there is a migration to elsewhere by ss buyers, more that it is due to their
bolstering the inventory to gull ew shareholders that this energizer rabbit just keeps going.
iow, clients got tired of wasting their time looking past the muck flooding in the new image pages.