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gyllens

« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2017, 11:59 »
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YadaYadaYada!     thanks but my type of photography is as FAR away from nature as can be!  :) I do mostly conceptual/studio photography sometimes involving models and lots of real doctors, nurses, lawyers, dentists, you know like real people at work and so on. Thanks anyway.

Sure I will probably lose out the first couple of years considering I have close to a million downloads at SS but even so I am rid of this constant paranoid uploading every five minutes followed by their hysteric search-changes.
Secondly in spite of all their facts and figures I seriously dont believe SS will last during 2017. Its obvious there are other forces at play such as internal/external politics problems and frictions and these things are enough to ground the biggest of corporations no matter how big a turnover.


ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2017, 12:59 »
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YadaYadaYada!     thanks but my type of photography is as FAR away from nature as can be!  :) I do mostly conceptual/studio photography sometimes involving models and lots of real doctors, nurses, lawyers, dentists, you know like real people at work and so on. Thanks anyway.
You get real professionals to sign releases fully understanding how the images can be used legally, far less misused? You should give up micro and run courses on powers of persuasion!

gyllens

« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2017, 13:12 »
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YadaYadaYada!     thanks but my type of photography is as FAR away from nature as can be!  :) I do mostly conceptual/studio photography sometimes involving models and lots of real doctors, nurses, lawyers, dentists, you know like real people at work and so on. Thanks anyway.
You get real professionals to sign releases fully understanding how the images can be used legally, far less misused? You should give up micro and run courses on powers of persuasion!

It wasnt hard. I am an ex physician myself. Pathologist. That way one get to know some people. I've run professional photography parallell with Pathology all my life. :)
« Last Edit: January 02, 2017, 13:15 by gyllens »

ShadySue

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« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2017, 13:15 »
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YadaYadaYada!     thanks but my type of photography is as FAR away from nature as can be!  :) I do mostly conceptual/studio photography sometimes involving models and lots of real doctors, nurses, lawyers, dentists, you know like real people at work and so on. Thanks anyway.
You get real professionals to sign releases fully understanding how the images can be used legally, far less misused? You should give up micro and run courses on powers of persuasion!

It wasnt hard. I am an ex physician myself. Pathologist. That way one gets to know some people. I've run professional photography parallell with Pathology all my life. :)

Still, I'm astonished they'll sign. Their images could be legitimately used in all sorts of unflattering ways.

« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2017, 13:20 »
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I just disabled all sales types on SS, and disabled all my photos on DT (I used a macro recorder).  They both owe me a few dollars for sales in December, and who knows when I'll get it; DT plays some nasty games. 

But I've seen my last subscription sale; never again will these people sell one of my photos for dollars, and pay me pennies.   

« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2017, 14:06 »
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GL is on the chopping block for me.  The ONLY site where I didn't get a sale in over a month with 6k images.  Actually haven't had a sale there in over 3 months.  Buh bye!

I last had a sale a few months ago.  I'm leaving my (tiny) portfolio there for now because a sale nets a few dollars, and they have new ownership.  Maybe something will happen.

To each their own, but in my case the sales stopped dead when the new owners took over.  I never had a month without a sale under the prior owners, and NOTHING since. 

Wishing you all the best on your plans to go macro.  Hope you will stop by to give us an update after awhile.
« Last Edit: January 02, 2017, 14:10 by PixelBytes »

gyllens

« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2017, 14:12 »
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I just disabled all sales types on SS, and disabled all my photos on DT (I used a macro recorder).  They both owe me a few dollars for sales in December, and who knows when I'll get it; DT plays some nasty games. 

But I've seen my last subscription sale; never again will these people sell one of my photos for dollars, and pay me pennies.   

Youre going to sleep better at night!  actually I dont mind them selling for a dollar as long as it mounts up. What I do mind and why I'm doing the same thing is all the hassle around the site their hysteric sort changes that sooner or later will have a negative impact on your portfolio the bugs and glitches the forced constant uploading in order to stay tune or else falling back in search. No not for me.

dpimborough

« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2017, 14:39 »
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I just disabled all sales types on SS, and disabled all my photos on DT (I used a macro recorder).  They both owe me a few dollars for sales in December, and who knows when I'll get it; DT plays some nasty games. 

But I've seen my last subscription sale; never again will these people sell one of my photos for dollars, and pay me pennies.   

Good for you! Someone has the balls and pride in themselves to say enough is enough.

Too long have these so called agencies played the game against the contributors, it's a shame there are plenty more out there thinking they'll get rich in a skewed card game.

« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2017, 17:25 »
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YadaYadaYada!     thanks but my type of photography is as FAR away from nature as can be!  :) I do mostly conceptual/studio photography sometimes involving models and lots of real doctors, nurses, lawyers, dentists, you know like real people at work and so on. Thanks anyway.

Sure I will probably lose out the first couple of years considering I have close to a million downloads at SS but even so I am rid of this constant paranoid uploading every five minutes followed by their hysteric search-changes.
Secondly in spite of all their facts and figures I seriously dont believe SS will last during 2017. Its obvious there are other forces at play such as internal/external politics problems and frictions and these things are enough to ground the biggest of corporations no matter how big a turnover.
Thats interesting I'm sure you have a very lucrative niche going there. I don't agree with you about SS lets put it in our diaries to see where they are jan 1 2018! I bet they will be clinging to no1 but under pressure!

« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2017, 17:43 »
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Speaking of losers.. how's it going for everyone on 123rf? 

My earnings have almost halved there comparing 2014 to 2016 :(

Quasarphoto

« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2017, 17:24 »
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More the dropouts the better for those who stay. 300 photos these days are like almost nada. You need 5-6,000 to make dent.

I haven't submitted anything to microstock in a long time and will probably never do so again.   With about 300 old images online, my expectations are pretty low these days.  But I'm thinking about starting the new year by cleaning house.

In the last couple of months DT has completely dried up;  I barely made enough in December to pay for a latte.  Time to end it.

For SS it's been a year of out-of-control spamming, junk portfolios getting side-loaded without inspection (like those 30,000 photos of pot), crazy rejections wasting everyone's time, and steadily declining sales for individual contributors.   I've been waiting for them to make some "exciting announcement" about a new giveaway or royalty cut, but at this point they're in such chaos they probably wouldn't even announce it.  So I'll dump them too.   

I was ready to give up on Alamy after months without a sale, but got one a few days ago that netted me $10.   I really have nothing against them, so I'll leave my stuff there.   

The wild card, once again, is GL stock images.   I thought the new ownership might take it somewhere, and I got a couple of sales after the transition, but it went cold.  Unsure about this one.

Bottom line, I'm dropping SS and DT on New Year's Day.

« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2017, 21:59 »
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Good luck with the other sales venues.

When I deleted most everything from IS I did it because I wanted to for me. I was still making more there than most other sites, but I just couldn't let them treat me that way anymore. Sure it would be nice if they got the message and changed, but ultimately you need to do what you need to do for you.

« Reply #37 on: January 03, 2017, 22:51 »
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Speaking of losers.. how's it going for everyone on 123rf? 

My earnings have almost halved there comparing 2014 to 2016 :(

They've quartered for me.  Not a fan these days.

gyllens

« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2017, 08:22 »
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SS is not going to love this but Stockastics departure from SS seems to be snowballing. This "factory" I know consisting of a few photographers also wants to leave but how do you delete over 100K files? one of the guys there is an Art Director as well and without upseting anybody but he also believe they are getting cut down on sales in favour of 0.25 contributors. They've experienced a drop of some 60%.
This is a crazy business not for the fainthearted. :o
« Last Edit: January 04, 2017, 08:25 by gyllens »

« Reply #39 on: January 04, 2017, 10:23 »
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3 contributors leaving is not snowballing

gyllens

« Reply #40 on: January 04, 2017, 10:35 »
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3 contributors leaving is not snowballing

No not here maybe but how many that we dont know about? when people see that factories are leaving they start to wonder why? we have always been led to believe here that they are the ones getting all the money. Well not so apparently.

« Reply #41 on: January 04, 2017, 11:04 »
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SS is not going to love this but Stockastics departure from SS seems to be snowballing. This "factory" I know consisting of a few photographers also wants to leave but how do you delete over 100K files? one of the guys there is an Art Director as well and without upseting anybody but he also believe they are getting cut down on sales in favour of 0.25 contributors. They've experienced a drop of some 60%.
This is a crazy business not for the fainthearted. :o

People like yourself keep harking on about a mythical tweak in the search in favour of 0.25 contributors with absolutely no evidence.  If it was true every newbie would hit the 0.33 threshold within days.  Yes, I agree that Shutterstock has deliberately left a lot of contributors hanging out to dry, but you need to look at what they have done not speculate on what may or may not have been done.   Shutterstock creamed of all the top earners and paired them up with the top buyers and provided them with the Enterprise Team and gave them a site of their own called Premier Select, which has been growing quarter by quarter, year by year as reported in their results.  It can be no surprise to find that those high earners left out are suffering an increasing loss of downloads.


« Reply #42 on: January 04, 2017, 11:16 »
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SS responded promptly to my support request, paid me my balance and closed my account.   

I deactivated all my files at DT, then sent an email asking how I would close the account.  They responded by closing it, bang.  Now I don't know if or when I'll get the roughly $150 they owe me.  I'll post the outcome eventually.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2017, 11:18 by stockastic »

gyllens

« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2017, 12:42 »
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SS is not going to love this but Stockastics departure from SS seems to be snowballing. This "factory" I know consisting of a few photographers also wants to leave but how do you delete over 100K files? one of the guys there is an Art Director as well and without upseting anybody but he also believe they are getting cut down on sales in favour of 0.25 contributors. They've experienced a drop of some 60%.
This is a crazy business not for the fainthearted. :o

People like yourself keep harking on about a mythical tweak in the search in favour of 0.25 contributors with absolutely no evidence.  If it was true every newbie would hit the 0.33 threshold within days.  Yes, I agree that Shutterstock has deliberately left a lot of contributors hanging out to dry, but you need to look at what they have done not speculate on what may or may not have been done.   Shutterstock creamed of all the top earners and paired them up with the top buyers and provided them with the Enterprise Team and gave them a site of their own called Premier Select, which has been growing quarter by quarter, year by year as reported in their results.  It can be no surprise to find that those high earners left out are suffering an increasing loss of downloads.

Good!  you dont have to listen answer and worry then. :)

Detective

« Reply #44 on: January 05, 2017, 09:04 »
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stockastic!  I am dropping SS as well. Close to 23000 files uploaded but I cant stomach it anymore. Too much spamming and short term sort changes. They accept anything just anything as long as its technically alright. Bugs and glitches everywhere and all the time.

I am in the process of asking them to delete all this in favour of throwing them in to a macro agency. I might lose out a bit the first year but at least I am rid of all this nonsense.
I might also sleep better at nights. haha!




Do!  with the right agencies its a completely different story. Joined micro from the start in 2004 and have had some great times and earnings but now I feel they have played their game to the end and what remains are the leftovers. The reason all play around with the search is probably because they know its come to an end and they want to earn as much as possible before the crash. :)


https://www.shutterstock.com/g/Christian+Lagerek

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Quote from Gyllens on: August 29, 2012, 08:47

Yes I am getting worried about the whole microstock buisness. People like Yuri are going sole distributor, Lisa dont seem too happy and Lagereek, is nowhere to be found,  Claridge, a name most here havent even heard about is threatening to leave micro.
I am pretty new here but what is actually going on?

I am a buyer, not a contributor.


http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/getting-worried!/msg269793/#msg269793

Chris Lagereek !!  Are you sure you want to pull your 25K images from Shutterstock? You have said that many times, but it was always bullsht.

Still talking bullsht I see, using an account you created 4 years ago. LOL. Trying to get around your lifetime ban on MSG.  ;D


gyllens

« Reply #45 on: January 05, 2017, 09:18 »
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SS responded promptly to my support request, paid me my balance and closed my account.   

I deactivated all my files at DT, then sent an email asking how I would close the account.  They responded by closing it, bang.  Now I don't know if or when I'll get the roughly $150 they owe me.  I'll post the outcome eventually.

come to think of it. Since its not too big a portfolio why dont you just leave it and let it earn some money instead. No harm exactly.

FlowerPower

« Reply #46 on: January 05, 2017, 11:27 »
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YadaYadaYada!     thanks but my type of photography is as FAR away from nature as can be!  :) I do mostly conceptual/studio photography sometimes involving models and lots of real doctors, nurses, lawyers, dentists, you know like real people at work and so on. Thanks anyway.

You get real professionals to sign releases fully understanding how the images can be used legally, far less misused? You should give up micro and run courses on powers of persuasion!


It wasnt hard. I am an ex physician myself. Pathologist. That way one get to know some people. I've run professional photography parallell with Pathology all my life. :)


You aren't a physician, aren't in denmark, don't have nearly 22000 photos on SS, or 20000 on FT. More like 2400 on SS. You quote or make statements from people who aren't here and they can't defend. Lisa, BPLA, Pickeral and others. You attack the agencys with claims that the search is somehow rigged, but no proof. Where's your proof?

Let me quote yourself.

Quote from: gyllens
August 29, 2012, 10:47
Yes I am getting worried about the whole microstock buisness. People like Yuri are going sole distributor, Lisa dont seem too happy and Lagereek, is nowhere to be found,  Claridge, a name most here havent even heard about is threatening to leave micro.
I am pretty new here but what is actually going on?

I am a buyer, not a contributor.


http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/getting-worried!/msg269793/#msg269793

I am a buyer, not a contributor.

Now you say you've been doing this since 2005?

Let me quote somebody else,
Quote from: ClaridgeJ
The MSG forum moderator OTOH he kepps banning individuals for harsh language but he allows extremely slanderous posts, slanderous to the point that one day it could really backfire on them.


You're getting your tall tails mixed up and can't keep them straight.

Not too sure hitting emerald will result in any increase at all. I remember Lisa wrote something about once you get to that level the sort order will not be in your favour. I know as a Gold I was earning almost double of what I'm getting now and I am not the only one.


Who's this Lisa you keep quoting?
« Last Edit: January 06, 2017, 03:40 by FlowerPower »

« Reply #47 on: January 05, 2017, 15:19 »
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probably lisafx, part of a regular experienced gang here, gostwyck, dj, baldrick, lots of experience left the forum at some point, theyre all greatly missed, although i see baldrick still posting every now and then

« Reply #48 on: January 05, 2017, 15:54 »
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I think some of the guys who used to post every day about the brilliance of "Jon" at SS finally decided to move to a warmer climate. 
« Last Edit: January 05, 2017, 19:12 by stockastic »

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #49 on: January 05, 2017, 16:55 »
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Let me quote yourself.
Quote from: gyllens
August 29, 2012, 10:47
...
I am pretty new here but what is actually going on?

I am a buyer, not a contributor.


http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/getting-worried!/msg269793/#msg269793

I am a buyer, not a contributor.

Now you say you've been doing this since 2005?


Mwahahaha
Great catch!


 

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