Author Topic: Still funny? Not anymore? (Read 16589 times)

cascoly · « **Reply #100 on:** February 23, 2025, 19:15 »

Quote from: RalfLiebhold on February 23, 2025, 13:41

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And yes, I obviously have more knowledge here.

... gained thru many years of arduous research?

cascoly · « **Reply #101 on:** February 23, 2025, 19:31 »

Quote from: trabuco on February 23, 2025, 04:28

Important things now.

C'mon! 1 euro a bottle of wine in Europe? Maybe it's an american one relabeled.

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!!! unlikely - even rotgut costs more than that. living the pacific NW, i have huge variety of breweries to choose from, but rarely drink WA or Oregon wines as i can get (for me mostly french ) European wine for much less than comparable but overpriced US wines -

as far as prices, store bought microbrew is a bit less than $2 for a12 oz ( 350) ml, while a pint (500ml) of the same brew in a pub is around $7. [you can get mass-produced swill for about $1 / 12 oz]

stoker2014 · « **Reply #102 on:** February 24, 2025, 04:14 »

Quote from: cascoly on February 23, 2025, 19:15

Quote from: RalfLiebhold on February 23, 2025, 13:41
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And yes, I obviously have more knowledge here.
... gained thru many years of arduous research?

The question about beer in Germany for me personally remained open. Because I have never been to Germany, and the German beer that they export is all with preservatives, has a shelf life of 1.5 years and is not tasty. So of course I was puzzled. I was told here that in Germany itself everything is not so, and that any of their beer is high-quality and tasty and that they have a different beer production technology than in Ukraine. So until I get to Germany and test their beer for 1 euro, for 3 euros and for 8 euros, and also read what is written on their cans and bottles, I will not close this question for myself.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #103 on:** February 24, 2025, 04:17 »

Quote from: cascoly on February 23, 2025, 19:13

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 23, 2025, 03:45
Quote from: cascoly on February 22, 2025, 23:38
Quote from: stoker2014 on February 22, 2025, 17:11
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I bought a bottle of wine in Spain for 1 euro. The wine was natural, I liked it.
that says it all!
This only says that I, unlike you, have been to Spain and know about wine.....
ROFLMAO!!! you continue to make totally ignorant assumptions about me! not that i matters, but i've been to Spain multiple times (4 times in last 5 years), as well as every country in Europe except for Poland, Sweden, Slovenia & Ukraine (but i'll get to all of them eventually ) - microstock underwrites much of my travel.
as far as wine ? that's another of the silliest statements you've made

What you write can only be written by an ignorant who has either never been to Spain, or has never drunk wine for 1 euro, or does not understand wine. Only an ignorant can judge the quality of Spanish wine based only on its price.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #104 on:** February 24, 2025, 05:22 »

I’m a former U.S. intelligence officer. Trump's Ukraine betrayal will have terrible consequences.
Trust is so hard to gain, and yet so easily lost.
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-ukraine-russia-zelenskyy-betrayal-rcna193035

stoker2014 · « **Reply #105 on:** February 24, 2025, 07:21 »

EU spends more on Russian oil and gas than financial aid to Ukraine – report

Europe estimated to have bought €22bn of fossil fuels from russia in 2024 but gave €19bn to support Kyiv.
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Vaibhav Raghunandan, an analyst at Crea and coauthor of the report, said: “Purchasing Russian fossil fuels is, quite plainly, akin to sending financial aid to the Kremlin and enabling its invasion.
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Many countries were more generous in past conflicts. Germany, for example, mobilised much more aid, more quickly for Kuwait’s liberation in 1990/91 than it has for Ukraine in a comparable time period.
The report also found russia earned €242bn from global fossil fuel exports in the third year of its full-scale invasion of Ukraine, with revenues since the start of the war “now inching closer to the trillion figure” as the country adapts to sanctions.
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Russia captured the spot as No 2 LNG exporter to Europe last year.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/24/eu-spends-more-russian-oil-gas-than-financial-aid-ukraine-report
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My question is, on whose side is the EU during the Russian genocide of Ukraine and the Ukrainian people? And all this happened under the Democrats and under Biden.

trabuco · « **Reply #106 on:** February 24, 2025, 10:08 »

On this side:

My PM has announced today 1B euros more in military aid to Ukraine. Not bad for peripheria, use it wisely.

Trump's fake news:

MONEY GIVEN TO UKRAINE, 31 DEC. 2024:

1. EUROPE 132B EUROS
2. USA 114B EUROS.

MONEY APPROVED TO UKRAINE 2022-2024:

1. EUROPE 247B EUROS
2. USA 119B EUROS

Trump is lying. What a surprise.

trabuco · « **Reply #107 on:** February 24, 2025, 10:16 »

More about Trump's fake news and lies.

How many refugees in the USA?

Número de refugiados ucranianos registrados por país desde el comienzo de la guerra en febrero de 2022 hasta febrero de 2024

Number of registered Ukrainian refugees by country from the start of the war in February 2022 to February 2024

Característica   Registrados*   Que aplicaron por asilo u otra medida de protección**

Polonia 15.12.2023   956.635   1.640.510
Alemania 03.02.2024   1.139.690   1.053.050
Rep. Checa 31.01.2024   381.400   589.285
España -the peripheria 25.01.2024   192.405   198.220
Italia 19.01.2024   168.840   189.450

USA size: 9,867 M km²
SPAIN size: 506.030 km²

Bulgaria 14.02.2024   67.770   177.080
Rumania 05.02.2024   78.745   157.220
Países Bajos 31.01.2024   149.015   146.715
Eslovaquia 04.02.2024   115.875   137.755
Austria 31.01.2024   84.135   111.105
Irlanda 28.012.024   104.315   104.315
Francia 31.12.2023   69.670   102.090
Suiza 15.02.2024   66.025   99.345
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We are on this side: 9% of total ukrainian population is living in European countries now.

trabuco · « **Reply #108 on:** February 24, 2025, 10:18 »

Maybe 1B euros today is not a lot of money (from a 48M people nation) but money from EU is also ours (also the aid to refugees but we are so f. glad of giving them a home and an better life).

Many spanish families, in the past and today, have children from Chernobyl's in summer since then.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #109 on:** February 24, 2025, 11:44 »

Quote from: cascoly on February 23, 2025, 19:13

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 23, 2025, 03:45
Quote from: cascoly on February 22, 2025, 23:38
Quote from: stoker2014 on February 22, 2025, 17:11
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I bought a bottle of wine in Spain for 1 euro. The wine was natural, I liked it.
that says it all!
This only says that I, unlike you, have been to Spain and know about wine.....

ROFLMAO!!! you continue to make totally ignorant assumptions about me! not that i matters, but i've been to Spain multiple times (4 times in last 5 years), as well as every country in Europe except for Poland, Sweden, Slovenia & Ukraine (but i'll get to all of them eventually ) - microstock underwrites much of my travel.

as far as wine ? that's another of the silliest statements you've made

But have you ever been to Milwaukee and had beer from a brewery? How About that? (yes of course I'm kidding, but it makes as much sense as most of the rest of the debate on this topic)

stoker2014 · « **Reply #110 on:** February 24, 2025, 13:31 »

Quote from: Wilm on February 22, 2025, 07:16

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 22, 2025, 05:28
Quote from: trabuco on February 22, 2025, 03:49
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WHY DO YOU WEAR AN UKRAINIAN FLAG WHEN YOU ARE A TRUMP SUPPOERTER?
As for Trump, I would not say that I am his fan or follower, he is simply better for Ukraine than Biden or any other Democrat. At the moment, this is also the opinion of Ukrainian experts.

‘According to diplomats, the US government wants to introduce a draft resolution in the UN General Assembly that does not explicitly name Russia as the aggressor.
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Russia's UN representative, Vasily Nebenzia, described the surprising move by the US government as a ‘good step’.
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The paper, reported by the news agencies dpa and AP, among others, also does not call for the withdrawal of Russian troops from Ukrainian territory.’

Judging by the vote that just took place, the UN adopted 2 resolutions. Why not 10 or 20?
The opinion of some experts was the following, and judging by the fact that Israel sided with the Russians, it is correct. This opinion is the following: negotiations are taking place in Saudi Arabia on Israel and Palestine, not on Ukraine. Trump wants to protect the interests of Israel and does not want russia to interfere with his plans for the Gaza Strip. Perhaps they are also talking about oil and gas. These negotiations are secret, so all parties say that these are negotiations on Ukraine. Judging by the fact that the US began to play on the side of the Russians, the US is trying to exchange Ukraine for the Gaza Strip. This American resolution is beneficial to the Russians, which means it is payment to the Russians for some agreements on the Middle East.

In fact, all these UN resolutions are meaningless. The UN is a useless organization. But some countries like to voice something there. Nothing has changed, as before, everything is decided only on the battlefield and the success of the war depends on EU sanctions and the amount of weapons supplied to Ukraine.

It's good that Trump does what he says, it makes him predictable and the EU has the opportunity to go into a martial law in the economy, and the EU can finally decide to stop funding the Russians.

trabuco · « **Reply #111 on:** February 24, 2025, 14:39 »

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/24/politics/us-joins-russia-ukraine-un-vote/index.html

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US joins Russia to vote against UN resolution condemning Russia’s war against Ukraine
Jennifer Hansler

By Jennifer Hansler, CNN
2 minute read
Published 12:55 PM EST, Mon February 24, 2025

trabuco · « **Reply #112 on:** February 24, 2025, 14:44 »

EU must send defensive weapons massively now. I think this is the first move to give the whole country to Putin. We are not going to accept this.

Our Leopards and Javelins are doing nothing here.

trabuco · « **Reply #113 on:** February 25, 2025, 08:55 »

our side:

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Statement by President von der Leyen at the International Summit on the Support of Ukraine in Kyiv

Dear Volodymyr,

24 February 2022 is a day that will live forever in infamy.

Today we join you in remembrance of the fallen heroes of Ukraine, and those still fighting on the frontlines.

A peaceful nation was invaded, with no reason except Putin's imperial obsession. But we believe in a free and sovereign Ukraine on its path towards the European Union. And we join you to shape this future together.

The war in Ukraine remains the most central and consequential crisis for Europe's future. Putin is trying harder than ever to win this war on the ground. His goal remains Ukraine's capitulation. And then we know what could happen next. Because it has already happened before.

It is not only the destiny of Ukraine that is at stake. It is Europe's destiny. So our first priority remains to empower Ukraine's resistance. So far, our Union and Member States have supported Ukraine to the tune of EUR 134 billion. That is more than anybody else.

Thanks to our Ukraine Facility and the G7 loan, we have closed Ukraine's budgetary gap for the entire year 2025.

In parallel, we must speed up the immediate delivery of weapons and ammunition. And this will be at the heart of our work in the coming weeks.

Today, I am here with the College of the European Commission. A free and sovereign Ukraine is not only in the European interest but also in the interest of the entire world. Autocrats around the world are watching very closely whether there is any impunity if you invade your neighbour and violate international borders. Or if there is true deterrence.

This is not only paramount for Europe. It is also important for Asia, for Africa, and both sides of the Atlantic. An investment in Ukraine's sovereignty is an investment in the prevention of future wars.

And there is more in it for Europe and the world. Ukraine has a highly innovative and thriving defence industry. This should never fuel the arsenals of an aggressive power, but strengthen the resilience of a European Union that is taking on more responsibility for its own security.

Ukraine has a lively start-up scene with a lot of expertise in rising sectors like AI and drones. The can-do attitude and entrepreneurial spirit of young and dynamic Ukrainian companies can provide important impulses to Europe's competitiveness.

Europe is here to strengthen Ukraine in this critical moment. I can announce that a new EUR 3.5 billion payment for Ukraine will arrive already in March.

And as President Costa just said, there is a special European Council. I will present a comprehensive plan on how to scale up our European arms production and defence capabilities. And Ukraine will also benefit.

When we talk about security, we are not just talking about the military dimension. The people here in Ukraine know this very well. For three years, Russia has sought to plunge Ukraine into darkness by relentlessly targeting the energy infrastructure.

We have prepared an ambitious package on energy security. The aim is to ensure a resilient, secure and competitive energy system for Ukraine. We will fully integrate Ukraine's and Moldova's electricity market with our electricity market by the end next year. And we will seize the full potential of Ukraine's vast gas storages, of which 80% are located close to EU Member States.

This generates income for Ukraine. And we will accelerate investments in Ukraine's renewable energy. All these efforts will result in greater energy security for both – Ukraine and the European Union.

Finally, no one wants more peace than the people of Ukraine. But a just and lasting peace only comes through strength. This is why we strengthen your economy. This is why we increase the resilience of your energy supply. This is why we will continue training and equipping your troops. Think of the importance of artillery ammunition, for example.

And today we are adopting our 16th package of sanctions. We will increase punitive sanctions against Russia, unless they demonstrate true willingness to achieve a lasting peace agreement.

Slava Ukraini.

PLUS:

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News
Politics
Ukraine could join EU before 2030, says von der Leyen

World leaders gathered to show support for Ukraine with Washington wavering on backing the government in Kyiv.

Looks like we are fully determinated to add Ukraine to the EU now to face Trump's betrayal.

What does it mean? Maybe Americans don't know how we work. Basically, the EU gives money to poorest countries of the EU every year until they are rich. Ukraine is now the poorest country in Europe, so a flood of Billions every year is expected. This is bad for other countries on this side on Europe, the eastern ones.

These funds go to everything, from roads to hospitals, companies and small business. A sign in every place fueled with that funds reminds us where from the money came.

Of course, in a few years borders are out and people can move free to other countries in the EU.

Great news.

Ukraine, soon, will be a better country than Russia to live in.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #114 on:** February 25, 2025, 10:06 »

Quote from: trabuco on February 25, 2025, 08:55

our side:
Statement by President von der Leyen at the International Summit on the Support of Ukraine in Kyiv

Tell her that Ukraine doesn't need money, but aircraft, missiles, tanks, bombs and drones. Where is all this?
Of course, money is also needed, but you can't win a war with money.
And what about the 16th package of sanctions, I wrote above how much the EU buys oil and gas from the Russians. Will the purchases continue? as I understand it.

"Looks like we are fully determinated to add Ukraine to the EU now to face Trump's betrayal."

This is all very interesting, of course, but the Ukrainians want Ukraine to be accepted into NATO first and have tactical and strategic nuclear weapons deployed on its territory. This would be a good guarantee of security from Russian orcs.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #115 on:** February 25, 2025, 10:12 »

Quote from: trabuco on February 25, 2025, 08:55

Slava Ukraini.

Heroiam slava!
or
To the heroes — glory!

stoker2014 · « **Reply #116 on:** February 25, 2025, 12:44 »

I heard an interesting opinion from one Ukrainian expert. The essence of the opinion is that if Denmark and the EU are now against handing over Greenland to the US, then in the event of the Russian occupation of Ukraine and the introduction of Russian troops into the territory of the Baltic countries, Poland, Romania and Moldova, the EU can very quickly change its mind and give Greenland to the US.
If America is to be made great, then the US needs Greenland. And in this case, Trump can sacrifice both the interests of Ukraine and the interests of the EU.
This combination can be considered theoretically possible. Of course, I am not sure that Trump thinks exactly like this, but if we are talking about geopolitics as a game of chess, then we need to calculate different combinations.
The EU has the ability to counteract, and this is possible only by supplying Ukraine with the necessary weapons. I am not even talking about the fact that the EU could also introduce troops into Ukraine, because it is better to fight the Russians not in Germany, for example, but on the territory of Ukraine.

If Trump can freeze the fighting, this will give the Russians the opportunity to restore and increase their military capabilities and not only occupy Ukraine, but also 1/3 of the EU (at least).

Personally, I still hold the opinion that Trump wants to shift the provision of the war in Ukraine to the EU and save US resources for the war with China.

I also do not rule out that Trump may begin transferring large quantities of weapons to Ukraine under lend-lease. Boris Johnson thinks so.

As you can see, there are many options.

The EU should wake up faster and become an active player in geopolitics. The EU will no longer be able to live as it did under Biden and the Democrats. Under Biden, the EU thought that Ukraine was far away. But this was a mistaken opinion, Biden would not have helped the EU in any way.

Wilm · « **Reply #117 on:** February 25, 2025, 16:35 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 25, 2025, 12:44

I heard an interesting opinion from one Ukrainian expert. The essence of the opinion is that if Denmark and the EU are now against handing over Greenland to the US, then in the event of the Russian occupation of Ukraine and the introduction of Russian troops into the territory of the Baltic countries, Poland, Romania and Moldova, the EU can very quickly change its mind and give Greenland to the US.

You don't need experts to come to this conclusion. It's obvious.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #118 on:** February 26, 2025, 03:34 »

Quote from: Wilm on February 25, 2025, 16:35

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 25, 2025, 12:44
I heard an interesting opinion from one Ukrainian expert. The essence of the opinion is that if Denmark and the EU are now against handing over Greenland to the US, then in the event of the Russian occupation of Ukraine and the introduction of Russian troops into the territory of the Baltic countries, Poland, Romania and Moldova, the EU can very quickly change its mind and give Greenland to the US.
You don't need experts to come to this conclusion. It's obvious.

Wilm, everything you write on the forum is a retransmission of banal news media, which escalate the situation and never try to think, analyze, and even more so predict anything.
You made me laugh a lot with your post.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #119 on:** February 26, 2025, 04:43 »

As I understand it, the new FBI director is declaring a hunt for Democrats and their supporters.

Trump’s New FBI Director Vows “World’s Largest Manhunt”

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/trumps-new-fbi-director-vows-worlds?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=7677&post_id=157930357
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Of course I don't care about the democrats and many of them should be put in jail. But since we are a community here and communicate, I decided to give you a friendly warning.
Democrats and communists! Run!

ShadySue · « **Reply #120 on:** February 26, 2025, 06:38 »

Meanwhile, Musk / DOGE have been lying to a great extent about the money he has been saving, including claiming a $1.9 billion cut at the Treasury, which was actually instigated last year, under the Biden administration.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/doge-accounting-errors_n_67b6538ce4b0be61010d7653
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kegqLSZi7o8

ShadySue · « **Reply #121 on:** February 26, 2025, 07:21 »

It's also salutary to note how much time and money Trump is wasting in the legal system with his many attempts to break the Law/Constitution, and with his many, many frivolous and groundless lawsuits.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #122 on:** February 26, 2025, 08:05 »

Democrats are hindering the work of the Republicans.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #123 on:** February 26, 2025, 14:11 »

Donald Trump has threatened to slap 25% tariffs on the European Union claiming the 27-country bloc was “formed to screw the United States”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/26/trump-european-union-tariffs
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So, the figure has been announced.
25% is not 60%, as Trump planned to impose against China.

Or maybe he won't introduce tariffs. Maybe he wants Greenland in exchange.

cascoly · « **Reply #124 on:** February 26, 2025, 14:33 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 26, 2025, 08:05

Democrats are hindering the work of the Republicans.

Republicans have majorities in both houses - how can D's hinder them?

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