Author Topic: Stock Photography Future (Read 11915 times)

cascoly · « **Reply #25 on:** September 16, 2020, 16:39 »

Quote from: Brasilnut on September 16, 2020, 10:26

Imo the future belongs to programmers. Those that can create very very realistic models/animals and scenarios using CGI without leaving the comfort of their homes.

Imagine lifestyle photography without the hassle and administration to shoot models in fun scenarios.
...

imagine someone doing that work for pennies...

Tenebroso · « **Reply #26 on:** September 16, 2020, 17:58 »

Yes, the technique evolves. Agency's squeeze employees, many workers, pushing each other to reach the goal. And the market has spent years, in the same direction, paying the minimum to collaborating microstock workers. Do great jobs or mediocre jobs, regardless of technique, time, resources,..... skill, talent, originality, ideas,.... of each collaborator.

If the quality of human faces is exceeded, economically, perhaps over time, you will place some fabulous models in non-existent spaces. But, most will not work in microstock, since the current market is not currently profitable to receive compensation according to the effort invested, except for a minority.

It's time to reinvent the microstock.

offisapup · « **Reply #27 on:** September 16, 2020, 18:30 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on September 15, 2020, 11:41

If I came to a forum about making money selling worms (this is much longer but just to make it simple... worm farming) and most of the posts talked about the downside of the market, how profits were dropping, how Worm Farmers were under paid and the product was over supplied, and the expense of producing, plus the competition was excessive. I wouldn't go into Worm Farming!

Actually, if you spend a couple of months building a website/blog about Worm Farming, doing some basic research, strategically putting the information in, doing your SEO right, you'll be making more money after 6 months than you would in a couple of years of photography on microstock.

rinderart · « **Reply #28 on:** September 16, 2020, 19:00 »

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/28/tech/ai-fake-faces/index.html

Pauws99 · « **Reply #29 on:** September 17, 2020, 00:38 »

Quote from: cascoly on September 16, 2020, 16:39

Quote from: Brasilnut on September 16, 2020, 10:26
Imo the future belongs to programmers. Those that can create very very realistic models/animals and scenarios using CGI without leaving the comfort of their homes.

Imagine lifestyle photography without the hassle and administration to shoot models in fun scenarios.
...

imagine someone doing that work for pennies...

There will be a hand full programmers to create the ability then designers will use simple software to create images themselves.

Tenebroso · « **Reply #30 on:** September 17, 2020, 07:08 »

Well, we will create files ourselves thanks to that group of developers. With the technology that is emerging and the possibilities and needs of each collaborator. I hope it is for a price that compensates the effort invested.

OM · « **Reply #31 on:** September 17, 2020, 20:05 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on September 15, 2020, 11:41

Somewhere, someone is still telling people, this is a good way to make extra money?

Shutterstock is still trying to get contributors to go 'more pro'...see their 'Additional Resources' page on which they show all sorts of Hollywood film-makers 'secrets' for great footage! Like you wanna do that for a dollar!

10 Types of Shots and Angles Every Filmmaker Should Know:

https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/10-types-of-shots-every-filmmaker-should-know

trabuco · « **Reply #32 on:** September 18, 2020, 00:51 »

In my country there are youtubers telling how they make a lot of money in freepik or stocksy. They are pro with expensive stuff, studios and people working for them. You can see that they are able to spend a lot of money in production.

Looks like a pyramidal scam, I don't understand why they are telling this.

alexandersr · « **Reply #33 on:** September 18, 2020, 10:19 »

Quote from: trabuco on September 18, 2020, 00:51

In my country there are youtubers telling how they make a lot of money in freepik or stocksy. They are pro with expensive stuff, studios and people working for them. You can see that they are able to spend a lot of money in production.

Looks like a pyramidal scam, I don't understand why they are telling this.

Which is your country?

trabuco · « **Reply #34 on:** September 18, 2020, 11:29 »

Spain.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #35 on:** September 18, 2020, 11:59 »

Quote from: offisapup on September 16, 2020, 18:30

Quote from: Uncle Pete on September 15, 2020, 11:41

If I came to a forum about making money selling worms (this is much longer but just to make it simple... worm farming) and most of the posts talked about the downside of the market, how profits were dropping, how Worm Farmers were under paid and the product was over supplied, and the expense of producing, plus the competition was excessive. I wouldn't go into Worm Farming!

Actually, if you spend a couple of months building a website/blog about Worm Farming, doing some basic research, strategically putting the information in, doing your SEO right, you'll be making more money after 6 months than you would in a couple of years of photography on microstock.

You totally missed the pint, didn't you?

Of course, true, there's more money in selling how to books and blogs and websites then there is in the businesses they promote.

But what I meant was, we can tell people, that the boom is over, there's no growth, the likelihood of making money or a fair return for the investment, is nearly impossible, yet people still come, new and thinking this is something new? They read the forum and the honest complaints, and can read how commissions are being cut and how we get paid less and less, yet they want to know "What agency is best", and "What camera should I buy."

My most outstanding, illogical question is: After the big four, what other agencies should I apply to. When the obvious is, they can't even make money from the big four, why waste more time and effort on some small parasite agency?

OK some day the business school version of the worm farm and the truck, up every morning selling them. It's perfect Microstock.

Maybe tomorrow.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #36 on:** September 18, 2020, 12:06 »

Quote from: OM on September 17, 2020, 20:05

Quote from: Uncle Pete on September 15, 2020, 11:41

Somewhere, someone is still telling people, this is a good way to make extra money?

Shutterstock is still trying to get contributors to go 'more pro'...see their 'Additional Resources' page on which they show all sorts of Hollywood film-makers 'secrets' for great footage! Like you wanna do that for a dollar!

10 Types of Shots and Angles Every Filmmaker Should Know:

https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/10-types-of-shots-every-filmmaker-should-know

Also true, but the main force in the early years was referrals by other photographers. Blogs, books, brags and what a great business this is.

Yes like MLMs there was more money in recruiting new members and the payback was a percentage of their earnings. Some people here, if they are willing to admit that, made more on referrals than they did on their own photos and work. I won't say who, maybe they will step up and admit that?

We could see the Microstock ship was turning and going to be in trouble, when the agencies cut the referrals.

alexandersr · « **Reply #37 on:** September 18, 2020, 12:09 »

Quote from: trabuco on September 18, 2020, 11:29

Spain.

Yes, I have seen them. There are a lot of them, there is a very famous one who has a very long beard and he spends his time traveling all over the world depending on why he sells stocks and pays them for travel. I speak spanish, i'm from Venezuela.

But anothers youtubers from Spain clearly said that uploading photos to Freepik and Shutterstock is no longer worth it.

Victims are naive people who want to get started in microstock. They act like "Wall Street Wolf".

trabuco · « **Reply #38 on:** September 19, 2020, 00:06 »

Quote from: alexandersr on September 18, 2020, 12:09

Quote from: trabuco on September 18, 2020, 11:29
Spain.
Yes, I have seen them. There are a lot of them, there is a very famous one who has a very long beard and he spends his time traveling all over the world depending on why he sells stocks and pays them for travel. I speak spanish, i'm from Venezuela.

But anothers youtubers from Spain clearly said that uploading photos to Freepik and Shutterstock is no longer worth it.

Victims are naive people who want to get started in microstock. They act like "Wall Street Wolf".

Hola.

I have started two years ago, not in freepik obviously, and I can't see how you can start in this and make some decent money. I'm not a pro anyway, started trying to improve mi skills and make some cash for equipment... but now...
For selling for peanuts don't know what to do.

William Perry · « **Reply #39 on:** September 19, 2020, 23:18 »

Upload a lot more photos. I remember Lisa Gagne, a well known stock photographer, who said on this site her portfolio was 75,000 photos.

My portfolio is over 10,000 photos and I have close to 122,000 online. Now I make some real money, but it is not enough to make a living from it.

tätarätä · « **Reply #40 on:** September 20, 2020, 03:36 »

This ist not the way for me to upload more and more images. I have already closed my account at istock and Shutterstock.
My Goal ist to upload top 100 images at Adobe Stock every month. Its like in the old days of analog photography when i send every month some images to photography magazine competitions. I won't win prices at Adobe Stock. Its about a personal competition to create some top images every month.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #41 on:** September 22, 2020, 11:19 »

Quote from: William Perry on September 19, 2020, 23:18

Upload a lot more photos. I remember Lisa Gagne, a well known stock photographer, who said on this site her portfolio was 75,000 photos.

My portfolio is over 10,000 photos and I have close to 122,000 online. Now I make some real money, but it is not enough to make a living from it.

Just for fun:
IS June 2012

Now: iStock/Getty Lise Gagne 10,771 Exclusive
http://www.lisegagne.com/

Yuri, I don't know where, but not on SS anymore: Images (27653) Videos (3595)
https://peopleimages.com/

SS Feb 2012

Dec 2018
#   Author   Portfolio   Added per week   Country   Member since
1   Toluk      1506576   9269   Norway   2011
2   Africa Studio   1311737   16      2007
3   Rawpixel.com   1055601   30      2014
4   s_maria      922458   13322   Russian Federation   2015
5   best_vector   796714   14696   Russian Federation   2017
6   Aha-Soft      792012   0     Russian Federation   2010
7   Artist_R      682271   24008   Andorra   2016
8   Ivan Popovych   642922   25787   Ukraine   2016
9   lineartestpilot   632238   0     United Kingdom   2009
10   Rvector     545087   3291   Russian Federation   2012
11   wavebreakmedia   540112   0   Ireland   2006
12   antishock      537599   6454   Andorra   2008

Africa Studio has two SS accounts.

End of 2018 there were 17,877 SS contributors with over 1,000 images, out of millions of accounts. 2837 had over 10,000 images.

240,881,058 royalty-free stock images on the site at the end of the year.

SS today: 336,117,809 stock photos, vectors, and illustrations

Just pointing out the competition...

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #42 on:** September 22, 2020, 15:23 »

I'm pretty sure I was over a million at that point.

Eta: I just checked, no I wasn't

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #43 on:** September 22, 2020, 16:10 »

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on September 22, 2020, 15:23

I'm pretty sure I was over a million at that point.

Eta: I just checked, no I wasn't

I don't write these I just do the screen captures.

But I'll admit, the save date on the file could always change and I'd be wrong. That one is the file name.

Great that you made 1,000,000 before they flipped you out the door for standing up for contributors rights, or at least open disclosure of how our images were being licensed. Also amazing if people think about it, that you did that 860,000 downloads, with only 11,941 images.

William Perry · « **Reply #44 on:** September 22, 2020, 20:50 »

That is why Sean is a legend

Tenebroso · « **Reply #45 on:** September 23, 2020, 05:55 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on September 22, 2020, 11:19

Quote from: William Perry on September 19, 2020, 23:18
Upload a lot more photos. I remember Lisa Gagne, a well known stock photographer, who said on this site her portfolio was 75,000 photos.

My portfolio is over 10,000 photos and I have close to 122,000 online. Now I make some real money, but it is not enough to make a living from it.

Just for fun:
IS June 2012

Now: iStock/Getty Lise Gagne 10,771 Exclusive
http://www.lisegagne.com/

Yuri, I don't know where, but not on SS anymore: Images (27653) Videos (3595)
https://peopleimages.com/

SS Feb 2012

Dec 2018
#   Author   Portfolio   Added per week   Country   Member since
1   Toluk      1506576   9269   Norway   2011
2   Africa Studio   1311737   16      2007
3   Rawpixel.com   1055601   30      2014
4   s_maria      922458   13322   Russian Federation   2015
5   best_vector   796714   14696   Russian Federation   2017
6   Aha-Soft      792012   0     Russian Federation   2010
7   Artist_R      682271   24008   Andorra   2016
8   Ivan Popovych   642922   25787   Ukraine   2016
9   lineartestpilot   632238   0     United Kingdom   2009
10   Rvector     545087   3291   Russian Federation   2012
11   wavebreakmedia   540112   0   Ireland   2006
12   antishock      537599   6454   Andorra   2008

Africa Studio has two SS accounts.

End of 2018 there were 17,877 SS contributors with over 1,000 images, out of millions of accounts. 2837 had over 10,000 images.

240,881,058 royalty-free stock images on the site at the end of the year.

SS today: 336,117,809 stock photos, vectors, and illustrations

Just pointing out the competition...

Shocked. Thank you very much. Is there somewhere to find this information in the Agencies? I am impressed and this data provides a lot of relevant information.

Can this information be found somewhere? Number of downloads, number of files, number of ......

Since the early years of microstock?

Brasilnut · « **Reply #46 on:** September 23, 2020, 06:00 »

Quote

Can this information be found somewhere? Number of downloads, number of files, number of ......

https://microstockrank.com/

Tenebroso · « **Reply #47 on:** September 23, 2020, 06:43 »

I go. Thank you very much.

pics2 · « **Reply #48 on:** September 23, 2020, 06:44 »

How can Lise Gagne have only 17k pictures in her portfolio? Her production sessions are not less than 100-200 pictures, even more. I guess at least 500 images a month. Do these exclusive contributors have multiple portfolios on getty? Some kind of a deal?

William Perry · « **Reply #49 on:** September 23, 2020, 13:46 »

I am not sure if she is still exclusive. She may be on multiple sites.

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Author Topic: Stock Photography Future (Read 11915 times)

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William Perry

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