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« on: May 01, 2023, 18:10 »
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I was very disappointed to discover that a large number (over 200) of my video collection has been duplicated and re-uploaded to Shutterstock, Pond5 and AdobeStock (and probably other stock sites but I haven't checked).
The account goes by the name CreativeVideoIdeas in various forms and there are a lot of videos on this account that are not mine, I have reached out to one other contributor who I could track down but it will no doubt have other contributors videos as well.

On pond5 the account was set up in 2020 and is set to Exclusive even though my content is already on there, so I guess it goes to show they really do not monitor their exclusive upload process if the same content can be uploaded even when it already exist in the database.
https://www.pond5.com/artist/creativeideas
How Shutterstock does not pick it up is surprising as I get rejections for 'similar' content of my own within a batch so to approve the same content goes to show their image recognition software is crap.
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/CreativeVideoIdeas/video

I have reached out to BlackBox about my stolen videos. I know that their videos are from many contributors and I don't want to get their account suspended without them at least taking some steps to remove it, but as yet I can not get a reply from them, so I might in the coming days make a copyright claim against them as well.

Is this kind of thing becoming commonplace with cheap subscription plans allowing anyone to download 1000s of clips for nothing?

Anyway check that clowns account to see if your videos are on it.


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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2023, 21:39 »
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I have reached out to BlackBox about my stolen videos. I know that their videos are from many contributors and I don't want to get their account suspended without them at least taking some steps to remove it, but as yet I can not get a reply from them, so I might in the coming days make a copyright claim against them as well.

You lost me slightly on this part... how is BlackBox involved?

Also... I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's been lifted directly from one of the Black Panther movies! :D

https://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/item/144390383-flight-found-beautiful-sunrise-over-wild-forest-mountains-su
« Last Edit: May 01, 2023, 21:58 by SpaceStockFootage »

« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2023, 23:15 »
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You lost me slightly on this part... how is BlackBox involved?
Blackbox also had stolen clips of mine that I came across when doing a search, but they have now removed the offending member and sent me an email to confirm they have done so.

« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2023, 01:59 »
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Is this kind of thing becoming commonplace with cheap subscription plans allowing anyone to download 1000s of clips for nothing?
1. BlackBox - evil
2. I have been loading on subscription stocks for many years, I am satisfied. Yes, maybe someone steals my video and places it on stocks, but I think that this does not bring me significant losses. In any case, I do not waste time looking for my work in the portfolios of others.

SpaceStockFootage

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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2023, 02:54 »
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Is this kind of thing becoming commonplace with cheap subscription plans allowing anyone to download 1000s of clips for nothing?
1. BlackBox - evil
2. I have been loading on subscription stocks for many years, I am satisfied. Yes, maybe someone steals my video and places it on stocks, but I think that this does not bring me significant losses. In any case, I do not waste time looking for my work in the portfolios of others.

Evil?! They take a fee for Paypal transfers, they could be classed as expensive for what you get (and that's before you get others involved for keywording and editing), you lose a lot that you'd get doing it yourself (which might not be worth it for some) like analytics, knowing who has accepted your work, if and why your work has been rejected etc etc, and their Facebook group is just weird... mainly due to the (somewhat) 'enforced' positivity and censoring/avoidance of criticism. But evil?! No, they're not evil... they're a not exactly groundbreaking service which is useful to some and not to others.

SpaceStockFootage

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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2023, 02:57 »
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You lost me slightly on this part... how is BlackBox involved?
Blackbox also had stolen clips of mine that I came across when doing a search, but they have now removed the offending member and sent me an email to confirm they have done so.

Ok, thanks for clearing that up. One of the downsides of Blackbox I guess... if I see one of my clips then I know it's been stolen if it's a different account name. But if somebody has uploaded it via BB then I don't know if it's mine or if it's stolen if they all say BlackBoxGuild or whatever, so harder to recognise... unless you see two next to each other in the results!

« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2023, 03:24 »
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Is this kind of thing becoming commonplace with cheap subscription plans allowing anyone to download 1000s of clips for nothing?
1. BlackBox - evil
2. I have been loading on subscription stocks for many years, I am satisfied. Yes, maybe someone steals my video and places it on stocks, but I think that this does not bring me significant losses. In any case, I do not waste time looking for my work in the portfolios of others.

Evil?! They take a fee for Paypal transfers, they could be classed as expensive for what you get (and that's before you get others involved for keywording and editing), you lose a lot that you'd get doing it yourself (which might not be worth it for some) like analytics, knowing who has accepted your work, if and why your work has been rejected etc etc, and their Facebook group is just weird... mainly due to the (somewhat) 'enforced' positivity and censoring/avoidance of criticism. But evil?! No, they're not evil... they're a not exactly groundbreaking service which is useful to some and not to others.
If people are stealing videos through this service, then the service is evil.

« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2023, 05:45 »
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I was very disappointed to discover that a large number (over 200) of my video collection has been duplicated and re-uploaded to Shutterstock, Pond5 and AdobeStock (and probably other stock sites but I haven't checked).
The account goes by the name CreativeVideoIdeas in various forms and there are a lot of videos on this account that are not mine, I have reached out to one other contributor who I could track down but it will no doubt have other contributors videos as well.
Anyway check that clowns account to see if your videos are on it.

Thanks for info. I checked one of the links you sent (P5). This is an exclusive account from Vietnam. When looking at the portfolio, I didn't find any of my videos but I took the time to click on some videos in the "similar" button to see what results appeared. In one case or another similar videos appeared but slightly different (with small crop or a little less time like 1 sec. or so).

i.e.
A) Creativeideas "Beautiful Rainbow, Rainbow Over The Sea, In The Waves Crashing Against The Rocks" 
Item ID: 228522480 selling 34$HD/64$4K.

B) Very similar video by other contributor, non-exclusive, Indonesia account since 2018 with video title "Rainbow Form In Waves Crashing Against Rocks On The Ocean Sea" Item ID: 204807574 selling 30$HD/50$4K.

I don't know if this helps you but I remember receiving an email and having to submit a photocopy of my ID to continue receiving my payments from P5. P5 will only let's you withdraw sales revenue after delivering ID and link to your account Payoneer/skrill. I think this measure happened during 2016 year.

Anyway my point is they can know who is Creativeidea. Also tracking CreativeIdeas P5 sales i can see this contributor had at least 53 sales. With some luck you can figure this out with P5.

All the best!






SpaceStockFootage

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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2023, 08:41 »
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Is this kind of thing becoming commonplace with cheap subscription plans allowing anyone to download 1000s of clips for nothing?
1. BlackBox - evil
2. I have been loading on subscription stocks for many years, I am satisfied. Yes, maybe someone steals my video and places it on stocks, but I think that this does not bring me significant losses. In any case, I do not waste time looking for my work in the portfolios of others.

Evil?! They take a fee for Paypal transfers, they could be classed as expensive for what you get (and that's before you get others involved for keywording and editing), you lose a lot that you'd get doing it yourself (which might not be worth it for some) like analytics, knowing who has accepted your work, if and why your work has been rejected etc etc, and their Facebook group is just weird... mainly due to the (somewhat) 'enforced' positivity and censoring/avoidance of criticism. But evil?! No, they're not evil... they're a not exactly groundbreaking service which is useful to some and not to others.
If people are stealing videos through this service, then the service is evil.

Nobody is stealing content through Blackbox... they're buying content through other sites (most likely Elements, Motion Array or Storyblocks) and then uploading them to Blackbox as their own. So they're not stealing from BlackBox, and they're not stealing from Elements, Motion Array or Storyblocks (although it could be classed as fraud I guess) but they are breaching copyright laws and conducting intellectual property theft. In this instance, the 'service' is the concept of stock footage and copyright.

« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2023, 12:32 »
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Someone must report this vietnam guy. Wow holy **** how many videos and animations from another contributors  :/

« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2023, 01:02 »
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Someone must report this vietnam guy. Wow holy **** how many videos and animations from another contributors  :/

It appears that someone did. SS is now 404 on that portfolio. P5 states that this artist is no longer on P5

« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2023, 21:40 »
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Thanks everyone for the comments.
OK so yes the SS and P5 accounts have been removed.
I did receive an additional payment from SS on the date of the account being removed. It may have only been the amount in that account for that month that was from my clip sales (no earning summary, adjustments or stats could be found for the additional amount).
When bringing a Copyright Infringement to SS you need to present it in the correct way, if anyone ever has to do this the below website is useful and formats the correct legal letter to be sent.
https://www.copyrighted.com/dmca-notice-generator

Anyway my point is they can know who is Creativeidea. Also tracking CreativeIdeas P5 sales i can see this contributor had at least 53 sales. With some luck you can figure this out with P5.

How do you find the number of clip sales for someone else's clips on P5? I though this feature was removed some years back?













 

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