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« on: December 08, 2012, 14:27 »
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I have started to upload vectorized versions of my old pen and ink drawings to the mircos. Some of the agencies rejected them, telling me I need a property release. I filled out and uploaded property releases to the sites that asked for them, and this solved the problem for all of the sites except SS, which rejected them a second time.  SS is insisting that I provide a 'source' image along with the property release.  Communication is very slow, it takes a week to get their rejection, then resubmit, another week passes, another rejection ect, ect...

Here's a sample:
http://www.canstockphoto.com/playful-calico-kitten-11791127.html
Has anyone had much experience submitting scans and photos of their own non-digital artwork? By 'source image' do they mean the preliminary sketches? Or do they mean I must provide any and all reference photos I may have used? Or do they want to see the original scans? They don't ask for property releases or source images for my vectors, many of which are based on my 3d renders. I also ran into this problem with a scan of a small watercolor painting of mine. Much of this artwork was done in the 80's and early 90's, before I went digital. Whatever preliminary sketches I created are long gone. I thought submitting some of my 'oldies' was a good idea, but now I wonder... Does anyone have experience with uploading scans and photos of your own non-digital artwork?


« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2012, 15:23 »
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I have submitted a whole series of Hand Painted Collages along with property releases and had no problems.  Mine were abstract designs so, unlike yourself, no "references"  to the possible original sources were needed.

Like this:

http://www.shutterstock.com/cat.mhtml?gallery_id=193138#id=25079275&src=e9ecdf19c200527df576bf89e55bc348-1-74
« Last Edit: December 08, 2012, 15:26 by etienjones »

« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2012, 15:30 »
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SS has been willing to accept a property release for my scans of real world paintings/drawings. But I'm selling those as photos, not illustrations.

SS sounds as if it's adopting a policy closer to iStock's for vectors. You need to show them a scan of the drawing that you made the vector from. For iStock, they would take a JPEG of the reference photograph or sketch. If it was drawn entirely online and without any reference, they ask for screen shots of the work in progress. I would make a JPEG that is the property release plus the drawing you did originally and I'd expect them to take that.

CD123

« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2012, 15:41 »
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Where I have source photos, I attach a full property release with the photos attached as a second page to the "document".

If I where you I will create a property release called "Scans from Own Original Artwork - Only Source is the Artwork as Captured" and declare that it is hand painted artwork and that you are the artist. Place the paintings on a bed or against a wall and take a picture of it (not cropped) and attach it as proof. I will also suggest adding the quote as above as reviewer remark when you submit it.

I think they are so used to "software created" artwork, that they do not consider that a real artist can sit in front of an object and paint it directly (or even from mind created source = visualizations).  :P

« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2012, 00:07 »
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Thanks for some good suggestions, the sites have some general info on property releases, but I haven't come across much on scanned non-digital artwork. There is no consistency from site to site, so a lot of it is trial and error, learning from rejections. But that's painfully slow.  I've got a lot of non-digital artwork I could upload, I don't know if it will sell, or if it's worth all the trouble to learn what each site wants, but it's worth a try.  So far SS is the strictest; I didn't upload any scans to IS. I sent a site message to SS admin, asking what they meant when they asked for a 'source image', I'll let you know what they say.

« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2012, 00:35 »
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I have submitted a whole series of Hand Painted Collages along with property releases and had no problems.  Mine were abstract designs so, unlike yourself, no "references"  to the possible original sources were needed.

Like this:

http://www.shutterstock.com/cat.mhtml?gallery_id=193138#id=25079275&src=e9ecdf19c200527df576bf89e55bc348-1-74


Nice work. Funny though that it states:
Release  information: N/A

What happened to the Property Release?

Poncke

« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2012, 01:10 »
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I have submitted a whole series of Hand Painted Collages along with property releases and had no problems.  Mine were abstract designs so, unlike yourself, no "references"  to the possible original sources were needed.

Like this:

http://www.shutterstock.com/cat.mhtml?gallery_id=193138#id=25079275&src=e9ecdf19c200527df576bf89e55bc348-1-74


Nice work. Funny though that it states:
Release  information: N/A

What happened to the Property Release?
Property released doesnt show up. I have some images with property releases but it always says NA. Only MR shows as relased/

Poncke

« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2012, 01:12 »
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OP, you need to embed a photo of the work into the PR. Thats what they want. On the PR there is room to stick a photo

CD123

« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2012, 01:17 »
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OP, you need to embed a photo of the work into the PR. Thats what they want. On the PR there is room to stick a photo
Think her problem is that the scan is, in a manner of speaking, the photo of the artwork. That is why I suggested placing them all somewhere and taking a separate picture of them all and attaching that. The reviewer can then identify the works as non traced material.

« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2012, 01:35 »
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Property released doesnt show up. I have some images with property releases but it always says NA. Only MR shows as relased/
I did not know that!

« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2012, 03:47 »
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I have submitted a whole series of Hand Painted Collages along with property releases and had no problems.  Mine were abstract designs so, unlike yourself, no "references"  to the possible original sources were needed.

Like this:

http://www.shutterstock.com/cat.mhtml?gallery_id=193138#id=25079275&src=e9ecdf19c200527df576bf89e55bc348-1-74


Nice work. Funny though that it states:
Release  information: N/A

What happened to the Property Release?


Thanks click_click,  it is the ultimate in recycling . . .  taking older paintings that I don't like anymore, ripping them into pieces and creating something new. A very cathartic process.


 

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