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« on: April 16, 2015, 06:33 »
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I'm asking from Getty Images contributors....

Is it worth submitting to Getty Images considering both time and efforts? How is your overall experience with them? How is the return compared to SS and other agencies? What do they sell most?

Thanks for your replies in advance  :)


« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2015, 06:56 »
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I'm asking from Getty Images contributors....

Is it worth submitting to Getty Images considering both time and efforts? How is your overall experience with them? How is the return compared to SS and other agencies? What do they sell most?

Thanks for your replies in advance  :)

Well for starters how are you going to be accepted by Getty?

Have they invited you?  Otherwise you'll have to enter one of their "Work with us competitions" and hope they select you.

Someone I know is in Getty they make quite good sales (about $600 on a less than 50 image portfolio) though the royalty returns as I recall are 20%

« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2015, 08:09 »
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I'm asking from Getty Images contributors....

Well for starters how are you going to be accepted by Getty?

Have they invited you?  Otherwise you'll have to enter one of their "Work with us competitions" and hope they select you.

Someone I know is in Getty they make quite good sales (about $600 on a less than 50 image portfolio) though the royalty returns as I recall are 20%

Seems you are not a Getty contributor? Have you every tried to become one?

shudderstok

« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2015, 09:26 »
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asking anything about getty images on this forum will yield mostly negative replies and misinformation. if you think you have the goods, then contact getty, simple as that. they are quit a bit more stringent in terms of applying than any microstock agency, they will want to see a very tight consistent body of work, unlike the microstock sites that will take anybody and turn them into an instant professional. the sales on getty can be very good.

« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2015, 09:31 »
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But I know there are some Getty contributors here. Hopefully, they will share some useful info.

« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2015, 09:43 »
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I have a friend who has had a house contact at Getty for years. He shoots editorial and commercial stock and does very well. Very difficult to get in now. Aside from the crazy competition, they pretty much have to recruit you. There are sports opportunities for experienced sports shooters, but everything else seems to be pretty tight. He was telling me that experienced stock shooters he knows trying to move over from other agencies were having a difficult time getting in.   

ultimagina

« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2015, 09:44 »
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I'm a Getty Contributor, but I stopped submitting since they require exclusivity.
Even if I get more per download from GI, the overall RPI/year is ~30% lower than what I get by spreading my photos over 5 non-exclusive agencies.

shudderstok

« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2015, 09:48 »
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I'm a Getty Contributor, but I stopped submitting since they require exclusivity.
Even if I get more per download from GI, the overall RPI/year is ~30% lower than what I get by spreading my photos over 5 non-exclusive agencies.

since when does GI require exclusivity??? i have been with them since the beginning and they have never required exclusivity.

ultimagina

« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2015, 09:55 »
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I'm a Getty Contributor, but I stopped submitting since they require exclusivity.
Even if I get more per download from GI, the overall RPI/year is ~30% lower than what I get by spreading my photos over 5 non-exclusive agencies.

since when does GI require exclusivity??? i have been with them since the beginning and they have never required exclusivity.

Here is an extract from my contributor agreement:
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Exclusivity: All Content submitted to Getty Images is on a Content exclusive basis. This means that Content submitted to Getty Images and
any other content that is substantially the same (a Similar) may not be licensed to any third party unless Getty Images has
notified you that it has been rejected. However, on a non-exclusive basis, You may use Content and any Similars for your
personal or self promotional, non-commercial use, including sharing Content on photo sharing websites, blogs or social
networking websites for personal or self-promotional/non-commercial use, provided that you do not compete with or limit the
rights granted to Getty Images under the Agreement. Also on a non-exclusive basis, you may use Accepted Content that is
available for license through a royalty-free license model in connection with the sale by you of prints, t-shirts and other retail
merchandise where the Accepted Content is the focus of the product, so long as you are not licensing or giving away rights to the
Accepted Content for anything other than such merchandising. On a co- exclusive basis with Getty Images you may use Content
and any Similars for limited edition, signed and/or numbered fine art prints (though Getty Images retains the exclusive right to sell
and license prints not signed or numbered).

shudderstok

« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2015, 09:59 »
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I'm a Getty Contributor, but I stopped submitting since they require exclusivity.
Even if I get more per download from GI, the overall RPI/year is ~30% lower than what I get by spreading my photos over 5 non-exclusive agencies.

since when does GI require exclusivity??? i have been with them since the beginning and they have never required exclusivity.

Here is an extract from my contributor agreement:
Quote
Exclusivity: All Content submitted to Getty Images is on a Content exclusive basis. This means that Content submitted to Getty Images and
any other content that is substantially the same (a Similar) may not be licensed to any third party unless Getty Images has
notified you that it has been rejected. However, on a non-exclusive basis, You may use Content and any Similars for your
personal or self promotional, non-commercial use, including sharing Content on photo sharing websites, blogs or social
networking websites for personal or self-promotional/non-commercial use, provided that you do not compete with or limit the
rights granted to Getty Images under the Agreement. Also on a non-exclusive basis, you may use Accepted Content that is
available for license through a royalty-free license model in connection with the sale by you of prints, t-shirts and other retail
merchandise where the Accepted Content is the focus of the product, so long as you are not licensing or giving away rights to the
Accepted Content for anything other than such merchandising. On a co- exclusive basis with Getty Images you may use Content
and any Similars for limited edition, signed and/or numbered fine art prints (though Getty Images retains the exclusive right to sell
and license prints not signed or numbered).

perhaps you have confused "exclusivity" for "image exclusive", in that sense then yes GI does require "image exclusivity". world of difference.

« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2015, 10:00 »
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I'm a Getty Contributor, but I stopped submitting since they require exclusivity.
Even if I get more per download from GI, the overall RPI/year is ~30% lower than what I get by spreading my photos over 5 non-exclusive agencies.

Thanks a lot for your info.

BTW, you still have a nice collection in GI
« Last Edit: April 16, 2015, 10:08 by 60D »

ultimagina

« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2015, 10:05 »
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perhaps you have confused "exclusivity" for "image exclusive", in that sense then yes GI does require "image exclusivity". world of difference.

From the quote I posted above, it is very clear, that an image submitted to GI, cannot be submitted to other agencies.
Where is the confusion?

shudderstok

« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2015, 10:30 »
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perhaps you have confused "exclusivity" for "image exclusive", in that sense then yes GI does require "image exclusivity". world of difference.

From the quote I posted above, it is very clear, that an image submitted to GI, cannot be submitted to other agencies.
Where is the confusion?

"I'm a Getty Contributor, but I stopped submitting since they require exclusivity."

was your quote from above, and the contract also posted above is very clear in saying "image exclusive"

and they are worlds apart.

ultimagina

« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2015, 10:35 »
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perhaps you have confused "exclusivity" for "image exclusive", in that sense then yes GI does require "image exclusivity". world of difference.

From the quote I posted above, it is very clear, that an image submitted to GI, cannot be submitted to other agencies.
Where is the confusion?

"I'm a Getty Contributor, but I stopped submitting since they require exclusivity."

was your quote from above, and the contract also posted above is very clear in saying "image exclusive"

and they are worlds apart.

Yes, indeed. That's what I meant by exclusivity or exactly the title of the paragraph I quoted, above, in GI own words: "Exclusivity: All Content ... "
What do you mean by Exclusivity?
« Last Edit: April 16, 2015, 10:41 by ultimagaina »

shudderstok

« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2015, 11:03 »
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perhaps you have confused "exclusivity" for "image exclusive", in that sense then yes GI does require "image exclusivity". world of difference.

From the quote I posted above, it is very clear, that an image submitted to GI, cannot be submitted to other agencies.
Where is the confusion?

"I'm a Getty Contributor, but I stopped submitting since they require exclusivity."

was your quote from above, and the contract also posted above is very clear in saying "image exclusive"

and they are worlds apart.

Yes, indeed. That's what I meant by exclusivity or exactly the title of the paragraph I quoted, above, in GI own words: "Exclusivity: All Content ... "
What do you mean by Exclusivity?

"exclusive" as in IS got you by the balls strangle hold where you can't submit any of your work to anyone else for all your RF work. ugly. even if your content has been rejected you still can't submit it anywhere else as RF UGLY UGLY UGLY

"image exclusive" as in GI they have you by the balls for that image only, but you can still submit your other work elsewhere provided it is not the same image or a similar as per their guidelines of what a similar is. reasonable. if your content has been rejected then you can submit elsewhere. REASONABLE AND ACCEPTABLE.

« Last Edit: April 16, 2015, 11:06 by shudderstok »

ultimagina

« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2015, 11:14 »
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Ok, the topic was about GI, and I mentioned that I'm not happy with the GI exclusivity.
I didn't say anything about exclusivity as seen by IS or some other agency.
It might be reasonable, indeed, maybe even preferable for some, but not for me, since I lose 30% of my income by complying with the way GI defines exclusivity.

« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2015, 21:56 »
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I got into getty through their flickr program. Have a small port there that has given a good return last year...  Nothing so far this year


« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2015, 03:18 »
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I got into getty through their flickr program. Have a small port there that has given a good return last year...  Nothing so far this year

Flicker-Getty deal is not there anymore, right?

Can you directly submit to them now?

« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2015, 03:41 »
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I got into getty through their flickr program. Have a small port there that has given a good return last year...  Nothing so far this year

Flicker-Getty deal is not there anymore, right?

Can you directly submit to them now?

To answer your question no I don't submit to Getty I have entered their competitions "to work with them" but was never succesful.

The Getty contributor I know joined them through the old Flickr program and now submits through their various picture calls.

Apart from an invite the only way to join them is through the competition route

« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2015, 03:48 »
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Contibutors from the Flickr/Getty deal can directly submit.

New contributors have to apply to House collections (very difficult) or to Moment collections in some of there regular competition.

They select the images they want, the collection and licence, the images are exclusive (and similar), we do the keyword, and they demand theire model release template.
From my experience, they sell few images and most of them not at the regular prices, 80% of my sales are sell at micro prices. Sometimes I have a good RF sale.

The word is that Stone and Taxi collections (all RM licence) is where the money are, but is very difficult to be accepted to that collections.

I only keep uploading to Getty because the bad performance of microstock agencies, they are also selling less and giving less royalties.

« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2015, 04:37 »
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I got into getty through their flickr program. Have a small port there that has given a good return last year...  Nothing so far this year

Flicker-Getty deal is not there anymore, right?

Can you directly submit to them now?
Yup that deal ended.... I can directly submit to them and they take a load of time to analyze and give a go ahead to an image. As i said last year was good with some great sales.... This year is a big 0 so far

ultimagina

« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2015, 09:35 »
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Maybe we should all ask the administrators of the poll on the right side of the page, to add GI to it.

GI is still one of the best known agencies, after all. It is abnormal to neglect it.

I asked once, but I've been told that there are not enough contributors. I suspect we are more than they think, maybe more than for some of those obscure agencies at the bottom of the list.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2015, 09:38 by ultimagaina »

ShadySue

« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2015, 09:45 »
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This is a microstock group. I know some Getty scales are on the low side of micro, but they don't yet consider themselves a micro agency.

ultimagina

« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2015, 10:02 »
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This is a microstock group. I know some Getty scales are on the low side of micro, but they don't yet consider themselves a micro agency.

This is a misconception.

As someone mentioned above, we also have a lot of micro-sales on GI as well.

The big sales are not so much different than the big sales we get from Alamy. And Alamy is listed. I get SODs from SS that are more valuable than the "big" GI sales.

See some examples from my February GI statement:

License Fee    Royalty Rate   Gross Royalty
$5.78             20.00%          $1.16
$10.17           20.00%          $2.03


How is it different than microstock?
« Last Edit: April 17, 2015, 10:07 by ultimagaina »

« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2015, 10:03 »
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This is a microstock group. I know some Getty scales are on the low side of micro, but they don't yet consider themselves a micro agency.

So, what's your point?


 

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