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Title: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: WarrenPrice on November 21, 2012, 13:49
Was wondering how/why Thanksgiving affects sales.  It isn't a world-wide holiday.  Do agency offices shut down?  Is it like a regular weekend (no work day)?
I guess I'm asking ... why does Thanksgiving (an American Holiday) affect sales?

Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: fotografer on November 21, 2012, 14:10
You aren't likely to see many american sales over the 4 day 'weekend'
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on November 21, 2012, 16:30
For many of the agencies, the US is a huge percentage of their sales. When it doesn't affect us as much, we'll know the efforts to broaden market appeal have worked :)
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: tab62 on November 21, 2012, 16:34
sales down slightly on Shutter today...
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: JPSDK on November 21, 2012, 16:54
Thanksgiving is not so important.
The business is global.
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: ruxpriencdiam on November 21, 2012, 17:56
For those with regular US sales it will be an extended weekend (4 days) of piss poor sales. :( :( :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: lisafx on November 21, 2012, 18:12
Thanksgiving is not so important.
The business is global.

I tend to agree.  From the sites that show me my sales ratio (SS, BS, Veer) looks like about 40% of my sales are non US.  If that holds true across other sites, I guess I will see 60%ish drop.   Not a big deal.  Not like Christmas, when sales just DIE for 2 weeks or more. 
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: Poncke on November 21, 2012, 18:21
Its been a most crap wednesday to say the least
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on November 21, 2012, 19:28
Was wondering how/why Thanksgiving affects sales.  It isn't a world-wide holiday.  Do agency offices shut down?  Is it like a regular weekend (no work day)?
I guess I'm asking ... why does Thanksgiving (an American Holiday) affect sales?

Most sales come from the US.  They are off wed-thurs-fri.  Other legitimate countries will have some sales.  The Asian workforce that tends to not pay for licensing will continue to do so over the holiday week-weekend.

You're in the US aren't you?  This isn't new.
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: gostwyck on November 21, 2012, 19:40
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Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: WarrenPrice on November 21, 2012, 20:49
Was wondering how/why Thanksgiving affects sales.  It isn't a world-wide holiday.  Do agency offices shut down?  Is it like a regular weekend (no work day)?
I guess I'm asking ... why does Thanksgiving (an American Holiday) affect sales?

Sales always go up massively on Thanksgiving just like any other national holiday. Sales always increase exponentially on weekends too. What a f**king stupid question from an attention-seeking pleb.

Thanks; your opinions are the ones that mean most to me.   They are always so well stated.  ::)
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: tab62 on November 21, 2012, 21:02
I haven't heard the term "Pleb" since my days in West Point Military Academy!

Pleb Definition-"Actually defined as a member of a despised social class, a commoner, a member of the plebs of ancient Rome. Also low-born, undisinguished, vulgar"

I know the TAC Officers called me a lot of Vulgar names during my first year  :-\


Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on November 21, 2012, 22:00
Thanks; your opinions are the ones that mean most to me.   They are always so well stated.  ::)

And yet they state the obvious.  Seriously, what was the point of the post?
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: Freedom on November 21, 2012, 22:03
Hey, happy Thanksgiving everyone!  ;)

I thought there would be no DLs today, but some DLs were just reported in the evening, much later than the usual time.
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: ruxpriencdiam on November 21, 2012, 23:09
I haven't heard the term "Pleb" since my days in West Point Military Academy!

Pleb Definition-"Actually defined as a member of a despised social class, a commoner, a member of the plebs of ancient Rome. Also low-born, undisinguished, vulgar"

I know the TAC Officers called me a lot of Vulgar names during my first year  :-\
Highland falls, Cornwall, Bannermans Island, Bear Mt, 218, 9w, 9E, New Windsor, Vails Gate, Newburgh, sound familiar?
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: tab62 on November 21, 2012, 23:16
I am so old it was called  'Buttermilk Falls' instead of Highland falls lol! Are we are retired Col or LTC?
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: ruxpriencdiam on November 22, 2012, 00:01
HA! :)

I can tell people who think and say they know things up there stuff that they have no idea about.

Castle across the river? Signs say belongs to Colonel Osbourne? Ozzy perhaps? Who Knows?

Billy Joel and his songs are all from highland falls.

Ever have Pizza at Prima in Cornwall? Best around!
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: enstoker on November 22, 2012, 00:51
Jolly good show.....
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: WarrenPrice on November 22, 2012, 14:38
Thanks; your opinions are the ones that mean most to me.   They are always so well stated.  ::)

And yet they state the obvious.  Seriously, what was the point of the post?

The point of the post, Sean, was "Why" are Thanksgiving sales slow?  It should affect only US businesses. 
I did receive several informative responses -- one PM was especially enlightening.

As for being stupid -- I probably do ask some dumb questions.  Some posts I have regretted.  Posting does tend to expose one's ignorance.
As for attention seeking -- * right I seek attention.  Isn't that what selling is all about?  I want to be seen and heard.  I want buyers to know me and my images.  Anyone who claims otherwise is a fool.

Thankfully, I am wrong about Thanksgiving.  My sales have been great today ... so far. 
Thanks to those who tried to satisfy my curiosity. 
A few of us are in awe of the intellectual egotists.  Keep the insults coming.  As they say in advertising ... even negative publicity is publicity.   :P


Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on November 22, 2012, 17:26
"The point of the post, Sean, was "Why" are Thanksgiving sales slow?  It should affect only US businesses. 
I did receive several informative responses -- one PM was especially enlightening."

It's slow because the majority of legitimate business that license stock are in the US.  Same for Xmas, New Years, etc... 
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: tab62 on November 22, 2012, 17:34
not a bad for me on Shutter both in sales and $$ thus I can live with Thanksgiving holidays...

T
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: ShadySue on November 22, 2012, 18:36
Most sales come from the US. 
Where are the up-to-date figures?
The last I saw, years ago, the US was the biggest single buying source, but about 40% of the total sales (OK that was iStock, I don't know about anywhere else.)
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: WarrenPrice on November 22, 2012, 18:42
"The point of the post, Sean, was "Why" are Thanksgiving sales slow?  It should affect only US businesses. 
I did receive several informative responses -- one PM was especially enlightening."

It's slow because the majority of legitimate business that license stock are in the US.  Same for Xmas, New Years, etc...

Christmas and New Years are World Wide, Sean.
What is a "legitimate business?"

ed: inference to Legitimate Rape.   ::)

Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on November 22, 2012, 18:45
"The point of the post, Sean, was "Why" are Thanksgiving sales slow?  It should affect only US businesses. 
I did receive several informative responses -- one PM was especially enlightening."

It's slow because the majority of legitimate business that license stock are in the US.  Same for Xmas, New Years, etc...

Christmas and New Years are World Wide, Sean.
What is a "legitimate business?"

A legitimate business is one that legally licenses work, as opposed to most of Asia that doesn't.

Yes, more of the world celebrates those other holidays, which is why sales drop even more.

Not sure what answer you're looking for here.
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on November 22, 2012, 18:46
Most sales come from the US. 
Where are the up-to-date figures?
The last I saw, years ago, the US was the biggest single buying source, but about 40% of the total sales (OK that was iStock, I don't know about anywhere else.)

Well my sales are about 40% of a usual day, so it looks like its grown.
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: ShadySue on November 22, 2012, 19:00
Most sales come from the US. 
Where are the up-to-date figures?
The last I saw, years ago, the US was the biggest single buying source, but about 40% of the total sales (OK that was iStock, I don't know about anywhere else.)

Well my sales are about 40% of a usual day, so it looks like its grown.

I've sold 2x as many as yesterday. (which isn't saying much  :().
And not UK biased topics. But nada since the end of the UK business day.
Many of your photos are very 'USian', so I'd expect a large proportion of your sales to be to the US or possibly Canada.
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: tab62 on November 22, 2012, 20:54
I got lucky- I hit my normal for today. Must be countries that don't celebrate killing a turkey  ;)

Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: ClaridgeJ on November 23, 2012, 03:27
Thanks; your opinions are the ones that mean most to me.   They are always so well stated.  ::)

And yet they state the obvious.  Seriously, what was the point of the post?

The point of the post, Sean, was "Why" are Thanksgiving sales slow?  It should affect only US businesses. 
I did receive several informative responses -- one PM was especially enlightening.

As for being stupid -- I probably do ask some dumb questions.  Some posts I have regretted.  Posting does tend to expose one's ignorance.
As for attention seeking -- * right I seek attention.  Isn't that what selling is all about?  I want to be seen and heard.  I want buyers to know me and my images.  Anyone who claims otherwise is a fool.

Thankfully, I am wrong about Thanksgiving.  My sales have been great today ... so far. 
Thanks to those who tried to satisfy my curiosity. 
A few of us are in awe of the intellectual egotists.  Keep the insults coming.  As they say in advertising ... even negative publicity is publicity.   :P

Warren!  and people say I have a bad attitude at times? ::) on another note. I lived in NY for 8 months and during a Thanksgiving period. Not much to it, just another weird holiday the Yanks have come up with. I still dont really know whats it in aid for and neither does most Americans if you ask them.
Same as the Irish with all their Saint this and that holidays,  another word for just going to the pubs I suppose.
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: nicku on November 23, 2012, 04:11
On SS i had 1 (one) US source sale in almost two days....it used to be dozens  :(
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: WarrenPrice on November 23, 2012, 11:33
To answer my own question "Why does Thanksgiving have such a negative effect on sales?"

It Doesn't.  At least it hasn't for me.  I'm seeing just the opposite -- an upsurge.  Closing in on BME at DT, seeing normal (low) sales at iS, several sales on Big Stock; SS is not strong but most sales seem to be inside North America.

Seems the opinions are mixed.  Situation Normal --  :-\
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: Poncke on November 23, 2012, 13:15
Thanks; your opinions are the ones that mean most to me.   They are always so well stated.  ::)

And yet they state the obvious.  Seriously, what was the point of the post?

The point of the post, Sean, was "Why" are Thanksgiving sales slow?  It should affect only US businesses. 
I did receive several informative responses -- one PM was especially enlightening.

As for being stupid -- I probably do ask some dumb questions.  Some posts I have regretted.  Posting does tend to expose one's ignorance.
As for attention seeking -- * right I seek attention.  Isn't that what selling is all about?  I want to be seen and heard.  I want buyers to know me and my images.  Anyone who claims otherwise is a fool.

Thankfully, I am wrong about Thanksgiving.  My sales have been great today ... so far. 
Thanks to those who tried to satisfy my curiosity. 
A few of us are in awe of the intellectual egotists.  Keep the insults coming.  As they say in advertising ... even negative publicity is publicity.   :P

Warren!  and people say I have a bad attitude at times? ::) on another note. I lived in NY for 8 months and during a Thanksgiving period. Not much to it, just another weird holiday the Yanks have come up with. I still dont really know whats it in aid for and neither does most Americans if you ask them.
Same as the Irish with all their Saint this and that holidays,  another word for just going to the pubs I suppose.

One day, St Paddys, biggest day of the year, and no other St this days. Just normal BHs like the UK and Europe. They call boxing day St Stephens day, but most countries have 26th Dec off.

Have you ever been to St Paddys? You should. Every country has a national holiday, Holland has Queensday.

Dont mock cultures you dont understand :)

As for the pub comment, the Irish dont need to invent days to go to the pub.  8)
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Holidays
Post by: ClaridgeJ on November 23, 2012, 13:20
Thanks; your opinions are the ones that mean most to me.   They are always so well stated.  ::)

And yet they state the obvious.  Seriously, what was the point of the post?

The point of the post, Sean, was "Why" are Thanksgiving sales slow?  It should affect only US businesses. 
I did receive several informative responses -- one PM was especially enlightening.

As for being stupid -- I probably do ask some dumb questions.  Some posts I have regretted.  Posting does tend to expose one's ignorance.
As for attention seeking -- * right I seek attention.  Isn't that what selling is all about?  I want to be seen and heard.  I want buyers to know me and my images.  Anyone who claims otherwise is a fool.

Thankfully, I am wrong about Thanksgiving.  My sales have been great today ... so far. 
Thanks to those who tried to satisfy my curiosity. 
A few of us are in awe of the intellectual egotists.  Keep the insults coming.  As they say in advertising ... even negative publicity is publicity.   :P

Warren!  and people say I have a bad attitude at times? ::) on another note. I lived in NY for 8 months and during a Thanksgiving period. Not much to it, just another weird holiday the Yanks have come up with. I still dont really know whats it in aid for and neither does most Americans if you ask them.
Same as the Irish with all their Saint this and that holidays,  another word for just going to the pubs I suppose.

One day, St Paddys, biggest day of the year, and no other St this days. Just normal BHs like the UK and Europe. They call boxing day St Stephens day, but most countries have 26th Dec off.

Have you ever been to St Paddys? You should. Every country has a national holiday, Holland has Queensday.

Dont mock cultures you dont understand :)

As for the pub comment, the Irish dont need to invent days to go to the pub.  8)

Ha! St paddys day in Ireland is great! was in Cork few years back and on that day, great fun. Youre right though the Irish dont need an excuse for the Pub.