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Title: Time to use the blur tool?
Post by: illstudio on September 23, 2009, 19:06
Im a few months new in to microstock but--
I have a pic I really like and it was rejected for model releases needed. The people, although they are very VERY small in my opinion I obviously cant get releases as I cant even tell who they are.
My question is, since they are very incidental, can I blur their faces? Is this acceptable?

Note: the pic is NOT of an editorial nature.

Steve
Title: Re: Time to use the blur tool?
Post by: goldenangel on September 23, 2009, 19:25
If they are really very small, you could try cloning them out completely. I don't think that blurring faces is a good idea.
Title: Re: Time to use the blur tool?
Post by: elvinstar on September 23, 2009, 19:32
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If they are really very small, you could try cloning them out completely. I don't think that blurring faces is a good idea.

I agree. While I've never tried what you're suggesting, I think that it's probably not going to fly.
Title: Re: Time to use the blur tool?
Post by: Jonathan Ross on September 24, 2009, 21:57
 If it's a great shot reshoot the same location and clone the people out from the clean version, combine both images to make one. Just an idea.

Best,
Jonathan
Title: Re: Time to use the blur tool?
Post by: Fred on September 25, 2009, 08:10
I would think cloning out is the best option.  If you blur the faces you could just get an OOF rejection.  I clone out people all the time - they don't seem to mind.

c h e e r s
fred
Title: Re: Time to use the blur tool?
Post by: click_click on September 25, 2009, 08:50
This sounds to me like the people in the image are an important feature otherwise, so I assume, the OP would have cloned them out to begin with as blurring the faces is a long stretch.

I've seen featured images on Dreamstime's front page with blurred out faces. I won't go into detail which images they were but it shows that there are agencies that do accept that kind of altering.

I'm just not sure though how happy the customers will be...
Title: Re: Time to use the blur tool?
Post by: Dreamframer on September 25, 2009, 10:24
Don't blur faces cause I'm sure it won't be approved by reviewer. Clone them out if you can. Look at this image, and see how big objects I cloned out. Also, I had to clone half of the village and the valley to fill the gap. The image was accepted at several sites. It was rejected at few agencies because of poor lens quality.

(http://www.dreamstime.com/paraglider-takeoff-thumb4096284.jpg)

This is edited version. The original is on the bottom.


Title: Re: Time to use the blur tool?
Post by: cathyslife on September 25, 2009, 10:33
whitechild, you submitted the bottom image and it got accepted? How did you get it accepted with that logo on the guys back? Your original image doesn't even have a person there. So this is a composite image too? Wow, if I haven't misunderstood, you did well to get that accepted at five sites. I can never get logos OR composites accepted.
Title: Re: Time to use the blur tool?
Post by: Dreamframer on September 25, 2009, 10:50
whitechild, you submitted the bottom image and it got accepted? How did you get it accepted with that logo on the guys back? Your original image doesn't even have a person there. So this is a composite image too? Wow, if I haven't misunderstood, you did well to get that accepted at five sites. I can never get logos OR composites accepted.

Sorry, my mistake. The original image is at the bottom, and edited is above. I just corrected my post. :)
Title: Re: Time to use the blur tool?
Post by: goldenangel on September 25, 2009, 11:51
Wow, it's impressive what you did Whitechild.
Title: Re: Time to use the blur tool?
Post by: Dreamframer on September 25, 2009, 11:53
Thanks Goldenangel. I don't do such things anymore. :D It's time consuming.
Title: Re: Time to use the blur tool?
Post by: madelaide on September 25, 2009, 16:24
That's indeed a very good cloning out work.  And if the sites accepted it, it must be REALLY good.
Title: Re: Time to use the blur tool?
Post by: Dreamframer on September 25, 2009, 18:31
That's indeed a very good cloning out work.  And if the sites accepted it, it must be REALLY good.

Thank you Adelaide! It was one of my first images on microstock. It's taken with 4Mipx camera :)
Title: Re: Time to use the blur tool?
Post by: lisafx on September 25, 2009, 18:58
I think at one time the blur tool might have helped you, but with all the sites getting pickier about wanting releases for even unrecognizable people, you are probably out of luck. 
Title: Re: Time to use the blur tool?
Post by: illstudio on October 14, 2009, 18:33
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If they are really very small, you could try cloning them out completely. I don't think that blurring faces is a good idea.


I agree. While I've never tried what you're suggesting, I think that it's probably not going to fly.


Not only did it work, the reviewer on DT told me to do it, and I resubmitted; it was accepted... Guess it pays to ask...
http://www.dreamstime.com/modify.php?imageid=10888263 (http://www.dreamstime.com/modify.php?imageid=10888263)
Title: Re: Time to use the blur tool?
Post by: Fred on October 14, 2009, 20:02
Well, I agree with Whitechild cloning works better than blurring but it can be a lot of work.  I spent way too much time getting this one accepted and it still hasn't sold.

This:
(http://www.dreamstime.com/geneva-spring-thumb10636034.jpg)

from this:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2462/4013086850_898c883f00.jpg)

I started with just the girl on the wall and then did the trash can and then some more people.  Once you get started it is hard to stop!

c h e e r s
ffred
Title: Re: Time to use the blur tool?
Post by: illstudio on October 14, 2009, 22:15
Well, I agree with Whitechild cloning works better than blurring but it can be a lot of work.  I spent way too much time getting this one accepted and it still hasn't sold.

This:
([url]http://www.dreamstime.com/geneva-spring-thumb10636034.jpg[/url])

from this:

([url]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2462/4013086850_898c883f00.jpg[/url])

I started with just the girl on the wall and then did the trash can and then some more people.  Once you get started it is hard to stop!

c h e e r s
ffred


I didnt want to spend that amount of time cloning if A.It wasnt gonna be accepted and B. If it wasnt a guaranteed seller. The people were also in areas that would require massive amounts of work.