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Title: Top tier & Mid Tier Poll Predictions one year from now
Post by: Brasilnut on September 17, 2017, 04:48
What do you predict is going to be the order one year from now. I'll start:

Top Tier

AdobeStock
Shutterstock
Pond5
Alamy

Mid Tier

iStock
EyeEm or Stockimo (at least one of the cell phone sites)
123RF
Dreamstime

Then the rest.



Title: Re: Top tier & Mid Tier Poll Predictions one year from now
Post by: namussi on September 17, 2017, 06:27
You've got Pond5 in both tiers.
Title: Re: Top tier & Mid Tier Poll Predictions one year from now
Post by: Noedelhap on September 17, 2017, 09:16
iStock/Getty will drop to the mid-tier, AdobeStock and Shutterstock will remain top-tier. The rest will stay the same more or less.
Title: Re: Top tier & Mid Tier Poll Predictions one year from now
Post by: Pauws99 on September 17, 2017, 10:24
I think the top tier is really only SS and possibly Adobe already. The rest will just lose market share I think. Alamy and Eyem might be OK as they at least provide something a bit different.
Title: Re: Top tier & Mid Tier Poll Predictions one year from now
Post by: Zero Talent on September 17, 2017, 10:51
iStock/Getty will drop to the mid-tier, ...

Wishful thinking  :(
Title: Re: Top tier & Mid Tier Poll Predictions one year from now
Post by: SpaceStockFootage on September 17, 2017, 12:13
iStock/Getty will drop to the mid-tier, ...

Wishful thinking  :(

Agreed. Even in a worst case scenario for them, I think they'll still be slightly ahead of Pond5 this time next year. It'll probably be quite a while until they are in the middle tier.
Title: Re: Top tier & Mid Tier Poll Predictions one year from now
Post by: Brightontl on September 17, 2017, 17:55
Well, this is comparing apple to oranges.
99.99% of people in this forum are photo only here.
Pond 5 is video only.
Title: Re: Top tier & Mid Tier Poll Predictions one year from now
Post by: ShadySue on September 17, 2017, 18:59
Well, this is comparing apple to oranges.
99.99% of people in this forum are photo only here.
Pond 5 is video only.

I'm perry sure a sizeable proportion of forum posters shoot video as well as photo, some have even posted that they submit mostly videos.

But indeed, that's another reason why the poll is pretty irrelevant, without knowing whether people who vote in the poll are submitting photos, videos, vectors or audio, and in what proportion.
Title: Re: Top tier & Mid Tier Poll Predictions one year from now
Post by: SpaceStockFootage on September 17, 2017, 20:40
I just meant they'll be higher than an 11.9 which to be fair, I don't really know what that number means!
Title: Re: Top tier & Mid Tier Poll Predictions one year from now
Post by: cthoman on September 17, 2017, 21:53
I'm perry sure a sizeable proportion of forum posters shoot video as well as photo, some have even posted that they submit mostly videos.

But indeed, that's another reason why the poll is pretty irrelevant, without knowing whether people who vote in the poll are submitting photos, videos, vectors or audio, and in what proportion.

Wait? What are photos and videos? I don't make either of those. Honestly, I haven't voted on the poll in so long because it became so irrelevant because of specialization.
Title: Re: Top tier & Mid Tier Poll Predictions one year from now
Post by: increasingdifficulty on September 18, 2017, 04:08
Well, this is comparing apple to oranges.
99.99% of people in this forum are photo only here.
Pond 5 is video only.

60% of the posters in this thread do video.
Title: Re: Top tier & Mid Tier Poll Predictions one year from now
Post by: SpaceStockFootage on September 18, 2017, 05:10
Well, this is comparing apple to oranges.
99.99% of people in this forum are photo only here.
Pond 5 is video only.

Only 1 in 10,000 people here do video?
Title: Re: Top tier & Mid Tier Poll Predictions one year from now
Post by: namussi on September 18, 2017, 05:23
Are any of these predictions based on numerical analysis?

Or are they just gut-feeling guesses?

Title: Re: Top tier & Mid Tier Poll Predictions one year from now
Post by: amabu on September 18, 2017, 05:56
Are any of these predictions based on numerical analysis?

Or are they just gut-feeling guesses?

They are wishful thinking. I predict the poll results will look exactly like they look today.
Title: Re: Top tier & Mid Tier Poll Predictions one year from now
Post by: Pauws99 on September 18, 2017, 06:24
Are any of these predictions based on numerical analysis?

Or are they just gut-feeling guesses?
The only numerical analysis thats really possible  as far as I know is your own data  SS published results and to a limited extent the chart on the right....but in any event numerical analysis of the past doesn't necessarily predict the future. Which is a fancy way of saying yes its a guess.
Title: Re: Top tier & Mid Tier Poll Predictions one year from now
Post by: Brasilnut on September 18, 2017, 06:34
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Which is a fancy way of saying yes its a guess.

Yeah, it's a bit of an educated guess. I analyse a lot of earnings from different sites and read on here (minus the doom & gloom stuff) to see which sites are on the up and which are on their way down.

My own stats on earnings is limited as I've decided not to submit to all sites as I think some are not worth the extra effort and will be on their way out soon anyway. If I do see a low earner showing promise I may start considering them.

Any thoughts on low earners that have potential to make it to the mid-tiers and maybe even Top tiers?
Title: Re: Top tier & Mid Tier Poll Predictions one year from now
Post by: namussi on September 18, 2017, 08:03
I think these "predictions" tell us more about the people who make them, than they do about what is actually going to happen.
Title: Re: Top tier & Mid Tier Poll Predictions one year from now
Post by: Brasilnut on September 18, 2017, 08:45
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I think these "predictions" tell us more about the people who make them, than they do about what is actually going to happen.

You've got a no non-sense up front style. I like it!
Title: Re: Top tier & Mid Tier Poll Predictions one year from now
Post by: Pauws99 on September 18, 2017, 10:03
I think these "predictions" tell us more about the people who make them, than they do about what is actually going to happen.
Good point generally true about all predictions....look at the way technology predictions tend to be rooted in the current mind set.
Title: Re: Top tier & Mid Tier Poll Predictions one year from now
Post by: namussi on September 18, 2017, 22:41
I think these "predictions" tell us more about the people who make them, than they do about what is actually going to happen.
Good point generally true about all predictions....look at the way technology predictions tend to be rooted in the current mind set.


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The guy who runs it is a historian of past views of the future. Some wonderful stuff.