Author Topic: Travis Manley is a Shithead Loser Photographer! (Read 19288 times)

travismanley · « **on:** April 06, 2011, 10:29 »

Hey guys,

It's been awhile. I woke up to find a link in my inbox to a interesting post someone had wrote about me being a shithead and a loser because I sell my photos at microstock sites. Thought I would pass it along http://bit.ly/f3oMFL

Not sure why out of all the millions of people out there selling stock he singled me out. Guess I should be flattered, right?

aeonf · « **Reply #1 on:** April 06, 2011, 10:35 »

That person should get out more... its a nice world out there.

travismanley · « **Reply #2 on:** April 06, 2011, 10:43 »

Posted the wrong link here. sorry

Microbius · « **Reply #3 on:** April 06, 2011, 10:50 »

No no that's not the guy, that's just another bloke he is hating on!!!!

ETA:
Phew, I was just thinking like that poor guy doesn't have it bad enough without all of on his back too!!

Anyway, that's very cool, I'm so jealous.
You have your first maniac stalker.
That's a sure sign of success.
Anyway, if you do find out who's behind it I'd love to see their work

nruboc · « **Reply #4 on:** April 06, 2011, 10:51 »

Removed links to website

travismanley · « **Reply #5 on:** April 06, 2011, 10:53 »

Quote from: nruboc on April 06, 2011, 10:51

Quote from: travismanley on April 06, 2011, 10:43
Here is a link to his website... in case you wanted to see what a non-shithead's photography looked like. lol http://www.marcadamus.com/index.php ...and maybe send him a nasty email... I didnt say that, really

Are you sure thats the guy? From the first link provided it sounds like the person in question has a problem with Mark Adamus too:
http://www.marcadamuslies.net/

Yup, sorry wrong link. Coffee is still kicking in... now I really am a shithead! lol

click_click · « **Reply #6 on:** April 06, 2011, 10:56 »

Let's not post any comments on his blog, that'll just give him more fuel.

If he sits there alone crying like a little baby he'll eventually understand that not a lot of people share his views.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 06, 2011, 10:58 »

Hi Travis! Good find, what a loser

travismanley · « **Reply #8 on:** April 06, 2011, 11:00 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on April 06, 2011, 10:58

Hi Travis! Good find, what a loser

Got to love those Google alerts!

LSD72 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 06, 2011, 11:01 »

I would not even give it a second thought. All the time that blog has been up...it still has zero followers.

My new blog with 5 post has 4 followers at least.

Plus I dont know what I am doing with blogging.

travismanley · « **Reply #10 on:** April 06, 2011, 11:01 »

Quote from: click_click on April 06, 2011, 10:56

Let's not post any comments on his blog, that'll just give him more fuel.

If he sits there alone crying like a little baby he'll eventually understand that not a lot of people share his views.

I agree. If you want to comment do it here or over on my blog post http://twcdm.blogspot.com/2011/04/travis-manley-is-shithead-loser.html

Snufkin · « **Reply #11 on:** April 06, 2011, 11:19 »

I'm pretty sure there is a proper medical term for his condition.

Actually, I think the company of Mark Adamus is not bad at all.

travismanley · « **Reply #12 on:** April 06, 2011, 11:23 »

Quote from: Tom on April 06, 2011, 11:19

I'm pretty sure there is a proper medical term for his condition.

Actually, I think the company of Mark Adamus is not bad at all.

Agreed, Mark Adamus is great photographer!

Double agreed, that person who runs that blog seems a little disturbed. Why spend so much time bashing people? Talk about a complex.

lisafx · « **Reply #13 on:** April 06, 2011, 11:34 »

Well, that guy clearly has some axe to grind. It's very insulting he targeted you personally, but it's good to see you are taking it in stride and having a sense of humor about it.

This guy's "facts" are bogus too. He states that "there are probably fewer than 10 people in the entire world making a living from microstock photography". The median annual salary in the US for photographers is 53k (http://www1.salary.com/photographer-Salary.html) I personally know of a couple of hundred, at least, who make that or more in micro.

RT · « **Reply #14 on:** April 06, 2011, 11:37 »

Quote from: travismanley on April 06, 2011, 11:23

Double agreed, that person who runs that blog seems a little disturbed.

Just sent you a PM

Microstock Posts · « **Reply #15 on:** April 06, 2011, 11:57 »

Quote from: click_click on April 06, 2011, 10:56

Let's not post any comments on his blog, that'll just give him more fuel.

If he sits there alone crying like a little baby he'll eventually understand that not a lot of people share his views.

haha that's a good point. To personally attack someone out of the blue, who is just getting on with his life and in my opinion is incredibly successful, is truly vile. I'm not sure if I would handle something like this quite as good as Travis is. I'm sure there is something physiological here. Maybe the guy who wrote the blog has been called and labelled a loser so many times in his life, he now projects this same hate on to others. You never know!

cthoman · « **Reply #16 on:** April 06, 2011, 12:18 »

Sorry about the attack, but that's hilarious.

You have to scratch your head and laugh about the internet sometimes.

Megastock · « **Reply #17 on:** April 06, 2011, 12:28 »

I think I read somewhere that 95.4322345% of statistics are made up on the spot

gill · « **Reply #18 on:** April 06, 2011, 12:30 »

Look on the bright side - no such thing as bad publicity.
It's very sad to take out one's lack of self esteem on others. Google reveals he hasn't had much support elsewhere either

travismanley · « **Reply #19 on:** April 06, 2011, 12:46 »

Quote from: Megastock on April 06, 2011, 12:28

I think I read somewhere that 95.4322345% of statistics are made up on the spot

I think you're way off. It's 95.4322346% lol

...at least im 99.943524% sure it is.

click_click · « **Reply #20 on:** April 06, 2011, 12:53 »

Quote from: travismanley on April 06, 2011, 12:46

Quote from: Megastock on April 06, 2011, 12:28
I think I read somewhere that 95.4322345% of statistics are made up on the spot

I think you're way off. It's 95.4322346% lol

...at least im 99.943524% sure it is.

C'mon you just made that up.

gostwyck · « **Reply #21 on:** April 06, 2011, 13:05 »

Quote from: cthoman on April 06, 2011, 12:18

Sorry about the attack, but that's hilarious. You have to scratch your head and laugh about the internet sometimes.

It is truly extraordinary. I'm sure anyone reading that would conclude that the actual 'sh!thead loser' is clearly the author of the blog. He needs treatment.

cathyslife · « **Reply #22 on:** April 06, 2011, 13:11 »

Quote from: gill on April 06, 2011, 12:30

Look on the bright side - no such thing as bad publicity.
It's very sad to take out one's lack of self esteem on others. Google reveals he hasn't had much support elsewhere either

I agree. Anyone that reads it is going to go look you up and read your blog. You just got yourself a bunch of free advertising!

jamirae · « **Reply #23 on:** April 06, 2011, 13:32 »

great publicity! ahhahaah! what a numskull. and I tried to go to the main page of the loserphotographers.com website and the account has been suspended. who's the loser now?

haha!

cathyslife · « **Reply #24 on:** April 06, 2011, 13:52 »

Quote from: jamirae on April 06, 2011, 13:32

great publicity! ahhahaah! what a numskull. and I tried to go to the main page of the loserphotographers.com website and the account has been suspended. who's the loser now?

haha!

I had that trouble too, but stumbled across it following some other links. On one of the pages he even talks about a manifesto, blah blah blah. Sounded like the unibomber. Good grief.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #25 on:** April 06, 2011, 14:00 »

That is all just ... odd. Maybe he has a relative that was killed by a micro loser photographer or something.

herby11 · « **Reply #26 on:** April 06, 2011, 14:10 »

you can always run an whois request against any given domain to get an idea who´s behind that and google that info later on to track that person down.... in the case of this blog I would not wonder if this information is just a total fake, so I resist to post the outcome here for not compromising anyone who probably has nothing to do with it at all...

bolivarhavanna · « **Reply #27 on:** April 06, 2011, 14:11 »

I think it's just some failed (and batshit crazy) microstocker, jealous at other people's success.

He apparently decided to "take revenge" by blogging.... Kinda reminds me of this story: http://www.epochkblamm.net/SuperVillain.asp

Quote:
"So, You Want to be a Super-Villain?
The story of a man, who, when faced with a mid-life crisis, chooses to don a cape and embrace.....evil. Too bad he's incompetent."

Pixart · « **Reply #28 on:** April 06, 2011, 14:19 »

Removed.

Retained:
Also, blogger has a "report this blog button" . Does he qualify for defamation?

travismanley · « **Reply #29 on:** April 06, 2011, 14:23 »

Quote from: sjlocke on April 06, 2011, 14:00

That is all just ... odd. Maybe he has a relative that was killed by a micro loser photographer or something.

I'm convinced that you are 93.56749382% right.

travismanley · « **Reply #30 on:** April 06, 2011, 14:25 »

Quote from: Pixart on April 06, 2011, 14:19

Travis, if you would like to get in touch with him here you go. Did you steal his girlfriend in grade 9 perhaps?

Here is (modified to THE OWNER OF THAT DOMAIN NAME) website: (removed) (At least it has the same ~~phone number~~ area code)

(contact info removed)

Also, blogger has a "report this blog button" . Does he qualify for defamation?

Thanks for the info. I had someone else send it too me too. Think I'm going to take the high road here and let it slide (assuming this is the first and last attack against me). Also, This will probably result in the most traffic my blog has seen in months.

herby11 · « **Reply #31 on:** April 06, 2011, 14:26 »

Pixart, you did what I was resisting for, but for sure I came to the very same place, hence we should give him a chance to declare himself, and if it´s just to not to fall onto his level. As I said, I would not wonder, if the ill brain behind that domain has faked the registrants name, but would contact this person by any means if i were Travis to see if he is the one behind that all, and act upon outcome. I am sure that blog qualifies for some legal action.

cthoman · « **Reply #32 on:** April 06, 2011, 14:44 »

Quote from: sjlocke on April 06, 2011, 14:00

That is all just ... odd. Maybe he has a relative that was killed by a micro loser photographer or something.

Mauled by a wildlife photographer.

I did learn something though. Apparently, there are only 10 photographers that earn a living with microstock.

Pixart · « **Reply #33 on:** April 06, 2011, 14:47 »

I removed the dude's contact info from my post above. As much as the blog made my blood boil, either (a) it is a false domain registry, or (b) the blog is by someone who is undeniably troubled in some way. I don't think the world is a better place if I point fingers at him. Shame on me. Travis, I think you will agree that it's okay to your modify my quote in your post above to remove his website and contact info?

travismanley · « **Reply #34 on:** April 06, 2011, 14:50 »

Quote from: Pixart on April 06, 2011, 14:47

Travis, I think you will agree that it's okay to your modify my quote in your post above to remove his website and contact info?

Done

leaf · « **Reply #35 on:** April 06, 2011, 15:39 »

Quote from: lisafx on April 06, 2011, 11:34

Well, that guy clearly has some axe to grind. It's very insulting he targeted you personally, but it's good to see you are taking it in stride and having a sense of humor about it.

This guy's "facts" are bogus too. He states that "there are probably fewer than 10 people in the entire world making a living from microstock photography". The median annual salary in the US for photographers is 53k (http://www1.salary.com/photographer-Salary.html) I personally know of a couple of hundred, at least, who make that or more in micro.

yep.. 27 of the 150 full timers interviewed said they took in more than $50,000 last year. That's 2.7x more than 10 and was only from the 'small' amount of people who answered the survey. That number would have been quite a bit higher if I had included everyone. Perhaps that is a good topic for a future look at the survey results. A further look at earnings compared to the average american photographer.

anonymous · « **Reply #36 on:** April 06, 2011, 15:44 »

could be click farming...just doesn't make any sense. Like the guy stirring up PooP in here the other day...probably same guy.

lisafx · « **Reply #37 on:** April 06, 2011, 15:59 »

Quote from: leaf on April 06, 2011, 15:39

yep.. 27 of the 150 full timers interviewed said they took in more than $50,000 last year. That's 2.7x more than 10 and was only from the 'small' amount of people who answered the survey. That number would have been quite a bit higher if I had included everyone. Perhaps that is a good topic for a future look at the survey results. A further look at earnings compared to the average american photographer.

There you go providing actual FACTS instead of guesswork and innuendo. Facts? We don't need no stinkin' FACTS!!

cathyslife · « **Reply #38 on:** April 06, 2011, 16:02 »

Quote from: anonymous on April 06, 2011, 15:44

could be click farming...just doesn't make any sense. Like the guy stirring up PooP in here the other day...probably same guy.

good point

gostwyck · « **Reply #39 on:** April 06, 2011, 16:07 »

Quote from: cclapper on April 06, 2011, 16:02

Quote from: anonymous on April 06, 2011, 15:44
could be click farming...just doesn't make any sense. Like the guy stirring up PooP in here the other day...probably same guy.

good point

But why pick on Travis of all people ...?

travismanley · « **Reply #40 on:** April 06, 2011, 16:09 »

Quote from: gostwyck on April 06, 2011, 16:07

Quote from: cclapper on April 06, 2011, 16:02
Quote from: anonymous on April 06, 2011, 15:44
could be click farming...just doesn't make any sense. Like the guy stirring up PooP in here the other day...probably same guy.

good point

But why pick on Travis of all people ...?

We are both from the Pacific Northwest. Im guessing he came across some of my photos at Dreamstime and went on a rant.

cathyslife · « **Reply #41 on:** April 06, 2011, 16:12 »

Quote from: gostwyck on April 06, 2011, 16:07

Quote from: cclapper on April 06, 2011, 16:02
Quote from: anonymous on April 06, 2011, 15:44
could be click farming...just doesn't make any sense. Like the guy stirring up PooP in here the other day...probably same guy.

good point

But why pick on Travis of all people ...?

You are trying to find rationality inside a lunatic's head. I don't think there is any. $:-\$

louoates · « **Reply #42 on:** April 06, 2011, 16:16 »

Somebody clue this guy in on politics. He'd fit right into the truly disturbed community.

jamirae · « **Reply #43 on:** April 06, 2011, 16:30 »

Quote from: louoates on April 06, 2011, 16:16

Somebody clue this guy in on politics. He'd fit right into the truly disturbed community.

are you sure he's not from Arizona?

louoates · « **Reply #44 on:** April 06, 2011, 17:06 »

I don't know where he's from. But I'm from Arizona.

LSD72 · « **Reply #45 on:** April 06, 2011, 19:23 »

Could just be a close cousin to Scarletwhore or Canadafirst or whatever the name is behind that AWESOME Photographer or was it cgi artist.. or was it rip off artist... crap.. now I am confused

jamirae · « **Reply #46 on:** April 06, 2011, 21:24 »

Quote from: louoates on April 06, 2011, 17:06

I don't know where he's from. But I'm from Arizona.

well then you know of the crazy politics here in AZ -- I was making a sarcastic reference to that after all crazy politicians that are in this state.

Mantis · « **Reply #47 on:** April 06, 2011, 21:33 »

Quote from: jamirae on April 06, 2011, 21:24

Quote from: louoates on April 06, 2011, 17:06
I don't know where he's from. But I'm from Arizona.

well then you know of the crazy politics here in AZ -- I was making a sarcastic reference to that after all crazy politicians that are in this state.

Don't you mean the Senate Democrats?

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #48 on:** April 07, 2011, 01:22 »

I wish I had someone out there telling the world that Marc Adamus and I are equally crappy

I would be slightly worried about being singled out by a lunatic like this. Maybe you should check with Adamus to see if he knows who the guy is and if he is dangerous.

Microbius · « **Reply #49 on:** April 07, 2011, 02:50 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on April 07, 2011, 01:22

I wish I had someone out there telling the world that Marc Adamus and I are equally crappy

I would be slightly worried about being singled out by a lunatic like this. Maybe you should check with Adamus to see if he knows who the guy is and if he is dangerous.

I had a quick read of one his posts and it sounds like maybe he went to school with Marc Adamus and is now really bitter that Marc has made it and he's still a loser (in one of the posts he says "anyone who knew Marc at school...." or something like that).
Seems to be in major denial abut his own (lack of) talent.

travismanley · « **Reply #50 on:** April 07, 2011, 09:54 »

I received an interesting email this morning from Jesse Estes and he said I could share it here:

"Heya Travis,

I noticed some traffic coming from a microstock forum this morning and noticed that you had posted the whois for the loser website. Whoever that guy is used my old whois info and registered the domain.

I have nothing to do with that website at all, and I'm in the process of removing my name from the domain through ICANN. I would appreciate it if you would not post my name out there as being behind this stupid mess... Whoever it is, also doesn't like me either.

regards,

--jesse"

I really hope this is true. Jesse sounds like a nice guy, so don't send any hate his way.

Microstock Posts · « **Reply #51 on:** April 07, 2011, 10:01 »

"I just want to say, you know, can we all get along? Can we get along? Can we stop making it, making it horrible....Please, we can get along here. We all can get along. I mean, we’re all stuck here for a while. Let’s try to work it out. Let’s try to beat it. Let’s try to beat it. Let’s try to work it out."

gostwyck · « **Reply #52 on:** April 07, 2011, 10:31 »

Quote from: travismanley on April 07, 2011, 09:54

I really hope this is true. Jesse sounds like a nice guy ...

So do I. I've never heard of Jesse Estes before but he is certainly a fine photographer. There's also no way he fits the 'wannabe/failed microstocker' hate-profile either. Judging by his website it doesn't appear that he has any interest in either stock photography or the commercial licensing of images but I'm sure if he did then he'd be quite successful.

travismanley · « **Reply #53 on:** April 07, 2011, 10:41 »

Quote from: gostwyck on April 07, 2011, 10:31

Quote from: travismanley on April 07, 2011, 09:54
I really hope this is true. Jesse sounds like a nice guy ...

So do I. I've never heard of Jesse Estes before but he is certainly a fine photographer. There's also no way he fits the 'wannabe/failed microstocker' hate-profile either. Judging by his website it doesn't appear that he has any interest in either stock photography or the commercial licensing of images but I'm sure if he did then he'd be quite successful.

Exactly. I have talked to him and I would be very surprised if he was spreading this poison.

Microbius · « **Reply #54 on:** April 07, 2011, 10:44 »

Looking at his website I'd almost bet he's telling the truth.
His style seems to be the one the weirdo has a particular dislike for as being too similar to Marc Adamus'

digitalexpressionimages · « **Reply #55 on:** April 07, 2011, 10:50 »

I hate to play devil's advocate here because I run the risk of being unpopular but I think calling the guy a lunatic is going too far.

From a certain perspective I can see where he came from. Where he came from and where he is now are too different things and he's certainly abusive and has misplaced his anger BUT...

I have posted on this very site long ago that I know a housewife who, with no photographic background, got herself a DSLR and started selling photos on iStock. If said housewife were to proclaim herself a professional photographer I could see someone getting irked by that. I don't call myself a pro photographer but I am a pro graphic designer and I went on a similar, if less defamatory, tirade against a 13 year old boy who claimed he was a professional graphic designer because he had photoshop and got paid by a guy to do a sign. It's very annoying.

Travis is not the first guy this person flamed and I think he may just be a very hard-core traditionalist who hates that many amateurs, like myself, are earning money from microstock.

He has gone way off mission by singling out guys like Travis and being so insulting but I don't think he's a lunatic.

thesentinel · « **Reply #56 on:** April 07, 2011, 10:56 »

Quote from: digitalexpressionimages on April 07, 2011, 10:50

I hate to play devil's advocate here because I run the risk of being unpopular but I think calling the guy a lunatic is going too far.

From a certain perspective I can see where he came from. Where he came from and where he is now are too different things and he's certainly abusive and has misplaced his anger BUT...

I have posted on this very site long ago that I know a housewife who, with no photographic background, got herself a DSLR and started selling photos on iStock. If said housewife were to proclaim herself a professional photographer I could see someone getting irked by that. I don't call myself a pro photographer but I am a pro graphic designer and I went on a similar, if less defamatory, tirade against a 13 year old boy who claimed he was a professional graphic designer because he had photoshop and got paid by a guy to do a sign. It's very annoying.

Travis is not the first guy this person flamed and I think he may just be a very hard-core traditionalist who hates that many amateurs, like myself, are earning money from microstock.

He has gone way off mission by singling out guys like Travis and being so insulting but I don't think he's a lunatic.

Spend some time reading all of his posts including one where he claims to have written to an airline trying to get one of his targets of hate sacked - he's got 'issues'.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #57 on:** April 07, 2011, 11:02 »

if it is not lunatic what is he? (let´s quote a litte)

shithead, loser, LIAR, imbecile, cretin, sociopath!

Gee, I hope I dont hurt his feelings by posting this.

I believe there are people who would go into court with less!

digitalexpressionimages · « **Reply #58 on:** April 07, 2011, 11:07 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on April 07, 2011, 11:02

if it is not lunatic what is he? (let´s quote a litte)

shithead, loser, LIAR, imbecile, cretin, sociopath!

Gee, I hope I dont hurt his feelings by posting this.

I believe there are people who would go into court with less!

OK, now I understand. Anyone who is insulting and antagonistic is by definition a lunatic. You should send that definition to the psychiatric community they would love to expand the scope of their services.

FOR THE RECORD: if you verbally attack someone, you are a lunatic. There is no room for rage and anger and certainly no room for opposing view points: YOU ARE NUTS IF YOU INSULT SOMEONE.

Ok now that's cleared.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #59 on:** April 07, 2011, 11:10 »

A lunatic is a commonly used term for a person who is mentally ill, dangerous, foolish, unpredictable; a condition once called lunacy.

does this guy have any of those??

travismanley · « **Reply #60 on:** April 07, 2011, 11:12 »

Quote from: digitalexpressionimages on April 07, 2011, 10:50

I have posted on this very site long ago that I know a housewife who, with no photographic background, got herself a DSLR and started selling photos on iStock. If said housewife were to proclaim herself a professional photographer I could see someone getting irked by that. I don't call myself a pro photographer but I am a pro graphic designer and I went on a similar, if less defamatory, tirade against a 13 year old boy who claimed he was a professional graphic designer because he had photoshop and got paid by a guy to do a sign. It's very annoying.

I have debated whether or not to call myself a professional photographer in my bio's. I guess it all depends on your interpretation of the word. That crazy guy made all kinds of assumptions that by saying that I was a "professional" that what I was really saying was that I made a living solely based on my microstock earnings. I dont, but I never said I do. My understanding of the word is that because I am paid to do it and I have been educated do to it and I have (in my opinion) been successful that gives me the right to call myself professional.

I can see how some soccer moms turned pro calling themselves professional might be annoying to the guys that have been doing it for years but really, who cares? What does it take away from you. It doesnt make you any less professional. It's like saying that gay marriage ruins strait marriage for everyone else. Maybe a bad example. Just my thought on the subject.

herby11 · « **Reply #61 on:** April 07, 2011, 11:21 »

I don´t agree at all with you, digitalexpressionimages, and I am also an professional graphic designer etc pp....and I also know about a "housewife" who made 70k in € (that are about 100k bucks) with iStock last year, this was even in the television.

The point is, it just does NOT matter, as graphic designers, also as photographers, musicians etc, having it studied or somehow learned from the roots means nothing as these are unprotected professions, so anybody can call himself a graphic designer or photographer etc, that is nothing new, and who wants to be in an protected professional environment better goes for being a lawyer or doctor etc, that is how it has been and will be

this is a free world, and the internet is a very free place, and if a housewife sells her images, she sells her images cause someone has a need for just that housewife images, and even if this maniac would be right that there are just 10 making a living out of MS, the real problem behind his ill blog is the fact that he obviously isn´t into this 10 making a living out of MS.

I doubt he is making a living at all out of photography, cause if he would, he just would not care, but he is simply not good enough to make such a living, not even against unprofessionals and wannabees

But with all his talk he has reached a level I hardly believe he can top , so I would not wonder if this guy will leave one day his blog and act in real life instead

LSD72 · « **Reply #62 on:** April 07, 2011, 12:16 »

I can depend on your own definition of the word.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional

"Definition

Main criteria for professional include the following:

A professional is a person that is paid for what they do. Qualifications have little to do with being a professional as the world's "oldest profession" is strictly a monetary gain career. An amateur maybe more qualified than a professional but they are not paid, thus they are an amateur."

RT · « **Reply #63 on:** April 07, 2011, 13:14 »

Quote from: travismanley on April 07, 2011, 09:54

I received an interesting email this morning from Jesse Estes and he said I could share it here:

"Heya Travis,

I noticed some traffic coming from a microstock forum this morning and noticed that you had posted the whois for the loser website. Whoever that guy is used my old whois info and registered the domain.

I have nothing to do with that website at all, and I'm in the process of removing my name from the domain through ICANN. I would appreciate it if you would not post my name out there as being behind this stupid mess... Whoever it is, also doesn't like me either.

regards,

--jesse"

I really hope this is true. Jesse sounds like a nice guy, so don't send any hate his way.

Could be true, it appears he's not well liked here :
http://marcadamuslies.wordpress.com/2009/07/13/too-stupid-to-create-your-own-images-just-copy-a-marc-adamus-image/
the blog is I believe somehow connected to the blog that posted about you.

There are some very sad people in the internet world!

nopow · « **Reply #64 on:** April 07, 2011, 14:15 »

only 10%?? I had no idea I was so fortunate and lucky...
Wow, thanks for the post, loser.

leaf · « **Reply #65 on:** April 07, 2011, 15:10 »

Quote from: digitalexpressionimages on April 07, 2011, 10:50

I hate to play devil's advocate here because I run the risk of being unpopular but I think calling the guy a lunatic is going too far.

From a certain perspective I can see where he came from. Where he came from and where he is now are too different things and he's certainly abusive and has misplaced his anger BUT...

I have posted on this very site long ago that I know a housewife who, with no photographic background, got herself a DSLR and started selling photos on iStock. If said housewife were to proclaim herself a professional photographer I could see someone getting irked by that. I don't call myself a pro photographer but I am a pro graphic designer and I went on a similar, if less defamatory, tirade against a 13 year old boy who claimed he was a professional graphic designer because he had photoshop and got paid by a guy to do a sign. It's very annoying.

Travis is not the first guy this person flamed and I think he may just be a very hard-core traditionalist who hates that many amateurs, like myself, are earning money from microstock.

He has gone way off mission by singling out guys like Travis and being so insulting but I don't think he's a lunatic.

I could agree with you if we were just looking at this one blog post. There have been numerous people who have not liked microstock or microstock photographers who have written very similar content. I went and read a few more of his blog posts though and feel there is 'more to it' I don't know why he has that blog.. at times I wondered if it was just a spoof.. For example in one blog post he is complaining that a photographer has curvy walls in his studio and thus it must be a fake 3d rendered studio, and the photographer must be a fake and con artist... well the pic was a multi-shot pano of his office / studio and I couldn't see a problem with it. He encouraged people to report the photographer to the state, so that he could be sent to jail ...

jbarber873 · « **Reply #66 on:** April 07, 2011, 15:39 »

Quote from: travismanley on April 07, 2011, 11:12

Quote from: digitalexpressionimages on April 07, 2011, 10:50
I have posted on this very site long ago that I know a housewife who, with no photographic background, got herself a DSLR and started selling photos on iStock. If said housewife were to proclaim herself a professional photographer I could see someone getting irked by that. I don't call myself a pro photographer but I am a pro graphic designer and I went on a similar, if less defamatory, tirade against a 13 year old boy who claimed he was a professional graphic designer because he had photoshop and got paid by a guy to do a sign. It's very annoying.

I have debated whether or not to call myself a professional photographer in my bio's. I guess it all depends on your interpretation of the word. That crazy guy made all kinds of assumptions that by saying that I was a "professional" that what I was really saying was that I made a living solely based on my microstock earnings. I dont, but I never said I do. My understanding of the word is that because I am paid to do it and I have been educated do to it and I have (in my opinion) been successful that gives me the right to call myself professional.

I can see how some soccer moms turned pro calling themselves professional might be annoying to the guys that have been doing it for years but really, who cares? What does it take away from you. It doesnt make you any less professional. It's like saying that gay marriage ruins strait marriage for everyone else. Maybe a bad example. Just my thought on the subject.

I agree. I've made my living from photography since 1978, and I feel that if someone is able to produce an image that someone else wants to buy, that pretty much is a definition of professional photographer. When I started, those of us in advertising considered stock as a sad backwater of failed outtakes ( which at the time it was). But over time, many of my clients wanted to buy existing images, and my stock business has growing ever since. The one thing i can say is that I am continually amazed at the quality and sheer creativity of a great many images in the microstock world. The hardest part of photography was always getting an idea to appear on film, and the digital revolution has opened the door for thousands of photographers who may not have had the resources in the past to compete. So if that housewife takes a photo that beats my images, I say good for her! There are many contributors here who images i admire, and the fact that they make the effort to create them ,and someone wants to buy them, is good enough for me. As to the original post, I think there are many sad and jealous people out there who take someone else's success as something to hate. This guy should put his energy into working at his own photography, instead of hating those who work hard at being a better photographer.

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