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« Reply #50 on: April 07, 2011, 09:54 »
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I received an interesting email this morning from Jesse Estes and he said I could share it here:

"Heya Travis,

I noticed some traffic coming from a microstock forum this morning and noticed that you had posted the whois for the loser website. Whoever that guy is used my old whois info and registered the domain.

I have nothing to do with that website at all, and I'm in the process of removing my name from the domain through ICANN. I would appreciate it if you would not post my name out there as being behind this stupid mess... Whoever it is, also doesn't like me either.

regards,

--jesse"

I really hope this is true. Jesse sounds like a nice guy, so don't send any hate his way.


« Reply #51 on: April 07, 2011, 10:01 »
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"I just want to say, you know, can we all get along? Can we get along? Can we stop making it, making it horrible....Please, we can get along here. We all can get along. I mean, were all stuck here for a while. Lets try to work it out. Lets try to beat it. Lets try to beat it. Lets try to work it out."

« Reply #52 on: April 07, 2011, 10:31 »
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I really hope this is true. Jesse sounds like a nice guy ...

So do I. I've never heard of Jesse Estes before but he is certainly a fine photographer. There's also no way he fits the 'wannabe/failed microstocker' hate-profile either. Judging by his website it doesn't appear that he has any interest in either stock photography or the commercial licensing of images but I'm sure if he did then he'd be quite successful.

« Reply #53 on: April 07, 2011, 10:41 »
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I really hope this is true. Jesse sounds like a nice guy ...

So do I. I've never heard of Jesse Estes before but he is certainly a fine photographer. There's also no way he fits the 'wannabe/failed microstocker' hate-profile either. Judging by his website it doesn't appear that he has any interest in either stock photography or the commercial licensing of images but I'm sure if he did then he'd be quite successful.

Exactly. I have talked to him and I would be very surprised if he was spreading this poison.

Microbius

« Reply #54 on: April 07, 2011, 10:44 »
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Looking at his website I'd almost bet he's telling the truth.
His style seems to be the one the weirdo has a particular dislike for as being too similar to Marc Adamus'

digitalexpressionimages

« Reply #55 on: April 07, 2011, 10:50 »
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I hate to play devil's advocate here because I run the risk of being unpopular but I think calling the guy a lunatic is going too far.

From a certain perspective I can see where he came from. Where he came from and where he is now are too different things and he's certainly abusive and has misplaced his anger BUT...

I have posted on this very site long ago that I know a housewife who, with no photographic background, got herself a DSLR and started selling photos on iStock. If said housewife were to proclaim herself a professional photographer I could see someone getting irked by that. I don't call myself a pro photographer but I am a pro graphic designer and I went on a similar, if less defamatory, tirade against a 13 year old boy who claimed he was a professional graphic designer because he had photoshop and got paid by a guy to do a sign. It's very annoying.

Travis is not the first guy this person flamed and I think he may just be a very hard-core traditionalist who hates that many amateurs, like myself, are earning money from microstock.

He has gone way off mission by singling out guys like Travis and being so insulting but I don't think he's a lunatic.

« Reply #56 on: April 07, 2011, 10:56 »
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I hate to play devil's advocate here because I run the risk of being unpopular but I think calling the guy a lunatic is going too far.

From a certain perspective I can see where he came from. Where he came from and where he is now are too different things and he's certainly abusive and has misplaced his anger BUT...

I have posted on this very site long ago that I know a housewife who, with no photographic background, got herself a DSLR and started selling photos on iStock. If said housewife were to proclaim herself a professional photographer I could see someone getting irked by that. I don't call myself a pro photographer but I am a pro graphic designer and I went on a similar, if less defamatory, tirade against a 13 year old boy who claimed he was a professional graphic designer because he had photoshop and got paid by a guy to do a sign. It's very annoying.

Travis is not the first guy this person flamed and I think he may just be a very hard-core traditionalist who hates that many amateurs, like myself, are earning money from microstock.

He has gone way off mission by singling out guys like Travis and being so insulting but I don't think he's a lunatic.

Spend some time reading all of his posts including one where he claims to have written to an airline trying to get one of his targets of hate sacked  - he's got 'issues'.

« Reply #57 on: April 07, 2011, 11:02 »
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if it is not lunatic what is he? (lets quote a litte)

shithead, loser, LIAR, imbecile, cretin, sociopath!

Gee, I hope I dont hurt his feelings by posting this.

I believe there are people who would go into court with less!

digitalexpressionimages

« Reply #58 on: April 07, 2011, 11:07 »
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if it is not lunatic what is he? (lets quote a litte)

shithead, loser, LIAR, imbecile, cretin, sociopath!

Gee, I hope I dont hurt his feelings by posting this.

I believe there are people who would go into court with less!

OK, now I understand. Anyone who is insulting and antagonistic is by definition a lunatic. You should send that definition to the psychiatric community they would love to expand the scope of their services.

FOR THE RECORD: if you verbally attack someone, you are a lunatic. There is no room for rage and anger and certainly no room for opposing view points: YOU ARE NUTS IF YOU INSULT SOMEONE.

Ok now that's cleared.

« Reply #59 on: April 07, 2011, 11:10 »
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A lunatic is a commonly used term for a person who is mentally ill, dangerous, foolish, unpredictable; a condition once called lunacy.

does this guy have any of those?? :P

« Reply #60 on: April 07, 2011, 11:12 »
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I have posted on this very site long ago that I know a housewife who, with no photographic background, got herself a DSLR and started selling photos on iStock. If said housewife were to proclaim herself a professional photographer I could see someone getting irked by that. I don't call myself a pro photographer but I am a pro graphic designer and I went on a similar, if less defamatory, tirade against a 13 year old boy who claimed he was a professional graphic designer because he had photoshop and got paid by a guy to do a sign. It's very annoying.

I have debated whether or not to call myself a professional photographer in my bio's. I guess it all depends on your interpretation of the word. That crazy guy made all kinds of assumptions that by saying that I was a "professional" that what I was really saying was that I made a living solely based on my microstock earnings. I dont, but I never said I do. My understanding of the word is that because I am paid to do it and I have been educated do to it and I have (in my opinion) been successful that gives me the right to call myself professional.

I can see how some soccer moms turned pro calling themselves professional might be annoying to the guys that have been doing it for years but really, who cares? What does it take away from you. It doesnt make you any less professional. It's like saying that gay marriage ruins strait marriage for everyone else. Maybe a bad example. Just my thought on the subject.  :)

« Reply #61 on: April 07, 2011, 11:21 »
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I dont agree at all with you, digitalexpressionimages, and I am also an professional graphic designer etc pp....and I also know about a "housewife" who made 70k in (that are about 100k bucks) with iStock last year, this was even in the television.

The point is, it just does NOT matter, as graphic designers, also as photographers, musicians etc, having it studied or somehow learned from the roots means nothing as these are unprotected professions, so anybody can call himself a graphic designer or photographer etc, that is nothing new, and who wants to be in an protected professional environment better goes for being a lawyer or doctor etc, that is how it has been and will be

this is a free world, and the internet is a very free place, and if a housewife sells her images, she sells her images cause someone has a need for just that housewife images, and even if this maniac would be right that there are just 10 making a living out of MS, the real problem behind his ill blog is the fact that he obviously isnt into this 10 making a living out of MS.

I doubt he is making a living at all out of photography, cause if he would, he just would not care, but he is simply not good enough to make such a living, not even against unprofessionals and wannabees

But with all his talk he has reached a level I hardly believe he can top , so I would not wonder if this guy will leave one day his blog and act in real life instead

LSD72

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« Reply #62 on: April 07, 2011, 12:16 »
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I can depend on your own definition of the word.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional

"Definition

Main criteria for professional include the following:

    A professional is a person that is paid for what they do. Qualifications have little to do with being a professional as the world's "oldest profession" is strictly a monetary gain career. An amateur maybe more qualified than a professional but they are not paid, thus they are an amateur."

RT


« Reply #63 on: April 07, 2011, 13:14 »
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I received an interesting email this morning from Jesse Estes and he said I could share it here:

"Heya Travis,

I noticed some traffic coming from a microstock forum this morning and noticed that you had posted the whois for the loser website. Whoever that guy is used my old whois info and registered the domain.

I have nothing to do with that website at all, and I'm in the process of removing my name from the domain through ICANN. I would appreciate it if you would not post my name out there as being behind this stupid mess... Whoever it is, also doesn't like me either.

regards,

--jesse"

I really hope this is true. Jesse sounds like a nice guy, so don't send any hate his way.


Could be true, it appears he's not well liked here :
http://marcadamuslies.wordpress.com/2009/07/13/too-stupid-to-create-your-own-images-just-copy-a-marc-adamus-image/
the blog is I believe somehow connected to the blog that posted about you.

There are some very sad people in the internet world!

« Reply #64 on: April 07, 2011, 14:15 »
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only 10%??  I had no idea I was so fortunate and lucky...
Wow, thanks for the post, loser.

« Reply #65 on: April 07, 2011, 15:10 »
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I hate to play devil's advocate here because I run the risk of being unpopular but I think calling the guy a lunatic is going too far.

From a certain perspective I can see where he came from. Where he came from and where he is now are too different things and he's certainly abusive and has misplaced his anger BUT...

I have posted on this very site long ago that I know a housewife who, with no photographic background, got herself a DSLR and started selling photos on iStock. If said housewife were to proclaim herself a professional photographer I could see someone getting irked by that. I don't call myself a pro photographer but I am a pro graphic designer and I went on a similar, if less defamatory, tirade against a 13 year old boy who claimed he was a professional graphic designer because he had photoshop and got paid by a guy to do a sign. It's very annoying.

Travis is not the first guy this person flamed and I think he may just be a very hard-core traditionalist who hates that many amateurs, like myself, are earning money from microstock.

He has gone way off mission by singling out guys like Travis and being so insulting but I don't think he's a lunatic.

I could agree with you if we were just looking at this one blog post.  There have been numerous people who have not liked microstock or microstock photographers who have written very similar content.  I went and read a few more of his blog posts though and feel there is 'more to it'  I don't know why he has that blog.. at times I wondered if it was just a spoof..   For example in one blog post he is complaining that a photographer has curvy walls in his studio and thus it must be a fake 3d rendered studio, and the photographer must be a fake and con artist... well the pic was a multi-shot pano of his office / studio and I couldn't see a problem with it.  He encouraged people to report the photographer to the state, so that he could be sent to jail ...  ::)

jbarber873

« Reply #66 on: April 07, 2011, 15:39 »
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I have posted on this very site long ago that I know a housewife who, with no photographic background, got herself a DSLR and started selling photos on iStock. If said housewife were to proclaim herself a professional photographer I could see someone getting irked by that. I don't call myself a pro photographer but I am a pro graphic designer and I went on a similar, if less defamatory, tirade against a 13 year old boy who claimed he was a professional graphic designer because he had photoshop and got paid by a guy to do a sign. It's very annoying.

I have debated whether or not to call myself a professional photographer in my bio's. I guess it all depends on your interpretation of the word. That crazy guy made all kinds of assumptions that by saying that I was a "professional" that what I was really saying was that I made a living solely based on my microstock earnings. I dont, but I never said I do. My understanding of the word is that because I am paid to do it and I have been educated do to it and I have (in my opinion) been successful that gives me the right to call myself professional.

I can see how some soccer moms turned pro calling themselves professional might be annoying to the guys that have been doing it for years but really, who cares? What does it take away from you. It doesnt make you any less professional. It's like saying that gay marriage ruins strait marriage for everyone else. Maybe a bad example. Just my thought on the subject.  :)

   I agree.  I've made my living from photography since 1978, and I feel that if someone is able to produce an image that someone else wants to buy, that pretty much is a definition of professional photographer. When I started, those of us in advertising considered stock as a sad backwater of failed outtakes ( which at the time it was). But over time, many of my clients wanted to buy existing images, and my stock business has growing ever since. The one thing i can say is that I am continually amazed at the quality and sheer creativity of a great many images in the microstock world. The hardest part of photography was always getting an idea to appear on film, and the digital revolution has opened the door for thousands of photographers who may not have had the resources in the past to compete. So if that housewife takes a photo that beats my images, I say good for her! There are many contributors here who images i admire, and the fact that they make the effort to create them ,and someone wants to buy them, is good enough for me. As to the original post, I think there are many sad and jealous people out there who take someone else's success as something to hate. This guy should put his energy into working at his own photography, instead of hating those who work hard at being a better photographer.


 

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