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H2O

« Reply #50 on: February 21, 2021, 16:57 »
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this is as wrong as Sean is wrong in naming the user H2O by the wrong name.

Did I?  They ( or their twin ) is posting the exact same thing on FB including the same wording about retroactive.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/stockcoalition/permalink/444978646740060/

I am NOT that person, you are just wrong, I'm not even sure why you would say such a thing.

Sure this Nikola has posted something similar, other people are allowed to have the same thoughts, indeed one can often see virtually the same photo on Microstock sites.



« Reply #51 on: February 21, 2021, 17:14 »
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this is as wrong as Sean is wrong in naming the user H2O by the wrong name.

Did I?  They ( or their twin ) is posting the exact same thing on FB including the same wording about retroactive.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/stockcoalition/permalink/444978646740060/

I am NOT that person, you are just wrong, I'm not even sure why you would say such a thing.

Sure this Nikola has posted something similar, other people are allowed to have the same thoughts, indeed one can often see virtually the same photo on Microstock sites.

Don't even try to explain anyone here anything, time waste and pointless.

Shortsight is only word that can describe here.

Btw we are twins if you didn't know that.

« Reply #52 on: February 21, 2021, 19:28 »
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Minimum wage? who mentions any minimum wages? you are completely lost.

As soon as the contributors are declared "employees", their employer must comply with the minimum wage laws:

The Act requires that employees must receive at least the minimum wage and may not be employed for more than 40 hours in a week without receiving at least one and one-half times their regular rates of pay for the overtime hours.


A minimum wage of $7.25/hour or even up to $15/hour, in some states, would translate into something between $1,232/month/agency, up to $2,550/month/agency.

So if you are currently not in that neighborhood you'll be fired as soon as such a stupid law is enacted.
Or maybe you are among the good ones who can make that amount on SS or AS, but you will still be fired by DT, DP, 123RF, etc before they will have no option left but to declare bankruptcy.
« Last Edit: February 21, 2021, 20:53 by Zero Talent »

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #53 on: February 22, 2021, 11:10 »
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Minimum wage? who mentions any minimum wages? you are completely lost.

As soon as the contributors are declared "employees", their employer must comply with the minimum wage laws:

The Act requires that employees must receive at least the minimum wage and may not be employed for more than 40 hours in a week without receiving at least one and one-half times their regular rates of pay for the overtime hours.


A minimum wage of $7.25/hour or even up to $15/hour, in some states, would translate into something between $1,232/month/agency, up to $2,550/month/agency.

So if you are currently not in that neighborhood you'll be fired as soon as such a stupid law is enacted.
Or maybe you are among the good ones who can make that amount on SS or AS, but you will still be fired by DT, DP, 123RF, etc before they will have no option left but to declare bankruptcy.

Plus the people arguing how this could turn things upside down, either they haven't read the article or don't understand what it says. I don't know how someone can post a claim and mistaken interpretation. Or how someone else jumps in with conclusions about contracts, when that is a simple matter of choice. We can accept or leave.

Uber drivers are workers, UK supreme court rules
Not quite true.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/19/tech/uber-uk-workers/index.html

"We respect the Court's decision which focused on a small number of drivers who used the Uber app in 2016."

"The UK court decision comes just months after Californians voted to make Uber and other gig economy companies exempt from state laws requiring them to class their drivers as employees rather than independent contractors. "

What could happen is many less drivers in the UK, maybe this will kill off agencies for our images, in countries that enact this law. OR the companies would move to places that don't have the laws.

Real bottom line, there's no way that stock agencies will ever pay us minimum wage, or call us employees. This is meaningless in relation to independent commission creatives.

will this affect the Stock industry?

In regards to our pay or status as an employee? No

Uber will re-word the contracts and change the standards, benefits and conditions. But the drivers will not be employees, because they will adjust to fit the terms of the law that will not identify the drivers as employee class people.


 

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