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« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2008, 10:14 »
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"I'd best stay off high buildings and bridges."

If in the event you did slip or fall off a building or a bridge, and fall to your your unwelcome demise;
I assure you we in the community would dedicate a memorial page to you and your work.

I for one find you a pillar of inspiration, and and an example to us all.
You would be sorely missed.

Cranky MIZ
The voice of reason

Cranky,

That's awfully nice of you; a trait, I was sure you were trying to eschew on this forum. Or perhaps one where the opportunity so rarely elicits itself as to be nearly invisible. Whatever the reason I appreciate the gesture.


« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2008, 22:22 »
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Not at all... well, I would have to settle for an APS camera instead of a full frame, and no more L glass...

rinderart

« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2008, 23:17 »
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Been a pro for Many, many years and I say everyday that this business is a launching pad. NOTHING more, And if you base your income on it and must "Feed the Beast" Your gonna lose. It's a numbers game and those numbers are getting Bigger every minute of every day. If You can keep up, Your gonna do OK. If not. I suggest you get out now. This is a great game for those with talent and an extreme work ethic and Can promote themselves. If you don't have these skills. You will be very dissapointed and we will read about you posting on these and other forums for years to come. This business is getting very specialized and if you can't or don't see it with research. Your History. All the sites are Upping there submit process now, Either get in or get out. Theres 106,000 submitters at SS alone. In a year there will be 150,000. How many are serious??? I would say 8%. There in Lies the problem. This Is in My book. If this business never existed I would being doing Exactly the same as before.  Think about it Like that. be a photographer. This business Cannot  be the Be all if you want this for a living. Face it, Your not Yuri , Wizdata or Andres  and you probably won't ever be.  Make this "PART" of what you do is My best advise.Not All of what you do. If you do, God Bless and you better get Buzy........Real buzy.

Microbius

« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2008, 04:21 »
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Been a pro for Many, many years and I say everyday that this business is a launching pad. NOTHING more, And if you base your income on it and must "Feed the Beast" Your gonna lose. It's a numbers game and those numbers are getting Bigger every minute of every day. If You can keep up, Your gonna do OK. If not. I suggest you get out now. This is a great game for those with talent and an extreme work ethic and Can promote themselves. If you don't have these skills. You will be very dissapointed and we will read about you posting on these and other forums for years to come. This business is getting very specialized and if you can't or don't see it with research. Your History. All the sites are Upping there submit process now, Either get in or get out. Theres 106,000 submitters at SS alone. In a year there will be 150,000. How many are serious??? I would say 8%. There in Lies the problem. This Is in My book. If this business never existed I would being doing Exactly the same as before.  Think about it Like that. be a photographer. This business Cannot  be the Be all if you want this for a living. Face it, Your not Yuri , Wizdata or Andres  and you probably won't ever be.  Make this "PART" of what you do is My best advise.Not All of what you do. If you do, God Bless and you better get Buzy........Real buzy.
Yawn, same doomsaying that has been going round for years.
If I had faith in your predictive talents I would have uploaded my whole folio to LO and now MP (yes I know you turned against LO when that ship started sinking, and yes MP may have agreed to promote your book but that means nothing to me)
This business is not about self promotion, if you want to make money out of it you have to have talent and find a niche or niches.
This is something that the ego obsessed dinosaurs will never understand.
This game, unlike the old RM sites is largely an anonymous one.
The contributers know who Yuri etc. are because they are great personal success stories. The buyers couldn't care less, or even be bothered to check who is responsible for the image they buy.

« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2008, 04:36 »
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Yes I agree with everything you say.   The fact that somebody has been in this business a long time makes them no more an authority on an unknown future than anybody else. I think that knowing the ins and outs of each site is much more important than self promotion and talent will always come out on top whatever their name is.


Yawn, same doomsaying that has been going round for years.
If I had faith in your predictive talents I would have uploaded my whole folio to LO and now MP (yes I know you turned against LO when that ship started sinking, and yes MP may have agreed to promote your book but that means nothing to me)
This business is not about self promotion, if you want to make money out of it you have to have talent and find a niche or niches.
This is something that the ego obsessed dinosaurs will never understand.
This game, unlike the old RM sites is largely an anonymous one.
The contributers know who Yuri etc. are because they are great personal success stories. The buyers couldn't care less, or even be bothered to check who is responsible for the image they buy.


« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2008, 09:50 »
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Yes I agree with everything you say.   The fact that somebody has been in this business a long time makes them no more an authority on an unknown future than anybody else. I think that knowing the ins and outs of each site is much more important than self promotion and talent will always come out on top whatever their name is.



An image of a hammer hitting a nail on the head would fit nicely here but I don't have one. Self promotion is strictly ego driven and the only place I see a need for it is if you get talent streaming your way that is both good and reasonably priced. I'm not quite a dinosaur but lets just say I do have to scrape barnacles off the hull fairy frequently these days. I've never been contacted by a prospective buyer except to make sure the appropriate releases and clearances are in place. No one gives a * who I am in this business and it doesn't matter how much I contribute or how good those images are; I am replaceable over night.

« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2008, 11:15 »
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Would your lifestyle change if you suddenly lost ALL the income from microstock?

I'm too new for this to have any impact on my income but I certainly know I would be sad and bored if microstock was lost. I would have to find some other creative endeavor to fill the vacuum, whether it be entering photo competitions, painting or making glass ornaments. The creative pursuits seem to be crucial for my overall happiness. :)

« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2008, 15:52 »
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I'm new in the game but for the three years into it I agree with many of Rinder's comment.  This cannot be "THE" business, it is absurd to think that numbers will be the same in the future.  This has to be a part of a photographic business, well diversified and well run. 

I really love the way many dismiss older photographer's experience very quickly:  they dont adapt, some say... or are reluctant to change.  The fact is that we are seeing a trend in wich anyone with a SLR, a couple of lights and a few hundred images on SS calls himself a photographer (even professional photographer).  There is more to it than micros and even more beyond stock imaging.  We can listen carefully (or read, in this case) and be open minded and learn from the lessons of the past or we can follow the "peanuts" trend that Fotolia and other sites are implementing. Think micro and you'll always be micro.

If you faithfully think that in two years you will be able to live a good life from micros, well... good luck.  Hope that crystal ball of yours has a good reception.  I certainly know that from what I've been reading the last few months from top earning shooters here and on other boards the feeling trends not in that direction to the point that many of them are (some in a public way and some in a not so public way) diversifying in other areas (midstock, traditional licensing, etc).  Even a couple of hundred years ago Malthus established the model of aritmetic vs geometric growth of population and resources.  It applies here very well.


 

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