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Title: Vector Software
Post by: strikerx98 on December 27, 2007, 14:36
I wanted to give Vectors a try and was wondering if there was any easy software that had a trial download so I could try before I buy.

Title: Re: Vector Software
Post by: nicemonkey on December 27, 2007, 15:45
You can try Adobe illustrator for a 30 day trial period...its expensive to buy but is the industry standard and now Freehand has bitten the dust is the only (professional) choice. I will be adding some tutorial on my website in the near future. If there is any particular subject you would like me to cover please e-mail me.

www.nicemonkey.co.uk (http://www.nicemonkey.co.uk)
Title: Re: Vector Software
Post by: stokfoto on December 27, 2007, 16:02
you might also like to try inkscape ,which is a free software
Title: Re: Vector Software
Post by: epixx on December 27, 2007, 20:01
If you are serious about doing vectors, it's difficult to avoid Illustrator. Trying out with a freeware program may work for you, but since Illustrator is so dominant, it's probably a good idea to start learning sooner rather than later. It's a good program, but there's a lot to learn.
Title: Re: Vector Software
Post by: strikerx98 on December 28, 2007, 00:43
I downloaded the free trial of Illustrator... needless to say I'm lost.  I tried using the help menu and was able to make a few images but have no idea what makes them a vector.  I saved as PDF, blah, blah... now to learn in less than 30 days to see if it's going to work for me.  Perhaps I should stick to photograhy.

Title: Re: Vector Software
Post by: louoates on December 28, 2007, 09:41
I really know Photoshop well but have never begun to try Illustrator even tho I have CS3.
But I've seen so much neat vector work done I'm going to force myself to enroll in an Illustrator course next month.

I expect a steep learning curve, just as with Photoshop. At least I know how to open Illustrator. Wish me luck.
Title: Re: Vector Software
Post by: stokfoto on December 28, 2007, 10:37
I too tried illustrator but like you I found it very  difficult,as I have no clue on what you can do with it.so I agree if it is possible t is best to take a course and I think one should also have drawing skills to create good work. I see loads of great work around.I wish I could draw better,anyway my initial thought was  to vectorize  my still files but for the moment I will stick with photography and videography.

good luck
Title: Re: Vector Software
Post by: lbarn on December 28, 2007, 11:04
I purchased an older version of Illustrator 9 from ebay for 100 bucks, since most sites require saving in illustrator 8 format, it appears to me that many of the advanced things that the newest version will do are not necessarily needed.  I have found that it is similar to vector based mapping software that I use daily in my profession, so the learning curve hasn't been as bad.

I still am trying to get accepted at Istock, they appear to be the strictest.

Title: Re: Vector Software
Post by: madelaide on December 28, 2007, 18:10
I started with a free copy of Canvas that came in a PC mag, and it was fairly easy to use.  There was a problem however when converting to EPS, as most sites require, and odd things happened, damaging the illustration.

Illustrator isn't easy to use at all, maybe it's worse for me because I don't use PS, so I'm less used to their menus and terminology.  But then you can find so many online tutorials that you can learn your way.  I also got some help in IS forums.  Sometimes a very simple hint made all the difference.

Title: Re: Vector Software
Post by: Susan S. on December 28, 2007, 19:48
Illustrator is a totally counter intuitive program, especially if you have started by being a photoshop expert. It just does things in a totally different way. It took me eighteen months from buying a copy to being proficient enough to make it worthwhile applying and getting accepted at istock . I learnt using Real World Adobe Illustrator and the Wow CS2 Illustrator book - but I'm still not really past the basics. I can at least use the pen tool now (which helps in PS too!) although a most of my stuff I draw and paint as I would on paper using a pressure sensitive brush with a Waconm Graphire tablet.

 If you want to get accepted on istock the trick seems to be doing a variety of original  drawings. All the posts I've seem complaining about rejections as illustrators have been from people who have tried to get in using three  very similar, simple drawings using primitive vector shapes or three swirly backgrounds/rehashes of grunge stuff that they already have on the site.

 I managed to get accepted first try, despite there being some technical issues with all the images that I uploaded (as I found when I tried to have them accepted in the collection!). Once you are accepted you can do as many shiny icons and glossy buttons and twirly backgrounds as you please -but they don't seem to get you accepted as an illustrator there these days.
Title: Re: Vector Software
Post by: sharpshot on December 30, 2007, 13:53
I use inkscape with no problems submitting to SS, DT and StockXpert.  Failed with my first submission to istock but that is probably due to my lack of illustration skills, I have seen there are some illustrators using inkscape there.
Title: Re: Vector Software
Post by: pauloresende on December 30, 2007, 14:10
First you need to now what vector is! All what you do in illustrator, coreldraw, ink or some other vector program do is a vector file! (donīt count plaice a image or photo into your file) If you place one image into your file and save it as one eps, the image or photo is still one image or photo! The program is just a toll to draw, like a pen or bit of paper, (i now that is more complex that a bit of paper). If you donīt now how to draw is very difficult to learn. But if you look into the web and read some books you will see that in the end is not that hard. Best of luck
Title: Re: Vector Software
Post by: Amos Struck on January 06, 2008, 18:23
Why not use a free vector online software.


I have seen a test where this website creates much better vectors than Illustrator
Title: Re: Vector Software
Post by: louoates on January 06, 2008, 23:00
After spending the last few days in Illustrator CS3 I learned that:

1. Lots of my Photoshop skills help.
2. I'm still a lousy drawer.
3. I wish I could find a good tutorial in what file formats are most desired by designers...not just the file formats that the sites mention. I see a lot of formats listed with vectors on iStock but I have no clue on how to upload them along with the EPS and JPEG. Supposedly you can also upload AI and PDF there but I don't see where in the upload sequence I can do so.
Title: Re: Vector Software
Post by: Susan S. on January 07, 2008, 00:59
The other formats are usually native formats for other vector editing programs - some illustrators obviously have Illustrator (.ai files of different flavours depending on the version) Corel Draw, Xara, Freehand, inkscape, which all have different native formats.
To upload these extra files to istock (you already have to upload a large jpg and an EPS 8 file )- you zip them up all together and upload them in the upload slot allocated for it. Not that I have bothered. I figure that a large jpeg and EPS covers most bases anyway, as the latter can be opened in most vector apps and the former in just about anything else. I don't use transparency or any of the advanced Illustrator features when I create istock files which would make it worthwhile including a more easily editable later version .ai file - it's easier to make them EPS8 compatible from the start than try to convert them afterwards. And I only have Illustrator to create vectors.

And if your drawing skills are rusty, I'd brush those up before applying to istock (unless you can do very complex coloured tracing) as that seems to be what they want in their applications.
Title: Re: Vector Software
Post by: louoates on January 07, 2008, 15:26
    Thanks for the tips on file formats. Glad to hear that EPS8 and jpgs should cover most. I'm actually quite good with the pen tool so I'll probably stick to contouring, gradients, and my usual goofy concepts. I'm thinking of IRS/taxes themes right now and the 2008 elections.
     One other observation: How in the world is there a market for so many icons? They seem to sell like crazy if the numbers on iStock are any indication.