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« Reply #50 on: September 23, 2008, 16:20 »
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Zeus, our upload site was down for a short while... we added a second pipe from our web-servers to the image RAID. 

Sorry for the interrupt.

Tom
Tom,
Is the site up yet? I can't seem to get into it.


« Reply #51 on: September 23, 2008, 16:53 »
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RacePhoto - Not at all what I meant. I whole heartedly applaud their decision not to include categories. I personally hate them, and agree that they are useless and a complete waste of time. I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't going to be forced into categorizing them at some future date. I think that the omission of categories alone will help to make this site popular among submitters. I wonder too, will Vivozoom include a rating system? I have often thought that giving registered onlookers a way to give their opinion of a particular photo would be usefull. Kind of like Netflix does with movies. I also think IS does this. I'm not sure how usefull it is to customers, but I like the idea. I also wonder will they give customers the option to sort by "most DLs", "highest rating", "Newest First", and "Random"?

« Reply #52 on: September 23, 2008, 17:35 »
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No! Please no rating system!!! Join MostPhotos if that's what you want  :D

Microbius

« Reply #53 on: September 24, 2008, 02:59 »
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No! Please no rating system!!! Join MostPhotos if that's what you want  :D
Absolutely, these crappy gimmicks just seem really unprofessional.
Sounds like this agency would like to sell to grownups, adding rating systems etc. is therefore probably not a good idea.

« Reply #54 on: September 24, 2008, 04:55 »
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Zues/Oboy - yes the site's up. 

If you are or were having problems please email me directly and each problem will be looked in to.  By all means report the bug here too, I check in regularly.

A couple of folks on this board have identified a problem logging on that is resolved by removing a cookie.  This is being looked into by the developers and I'm hoping for a resolution very soon. 

tom <at> vivozoom.com

« Reply #55 on: September 24, 2008, 05:10 »
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Microbius et al - we are in agreement.

We will have no facilities that allow others to rate your images nor see how many downloads an image has had.  Those things have no place at VZ.  All these decisions were supported by a vocal but passionate group of microstockers who gave us some great feedback in 2007.

In retrospect, these "gimmicks" might seem like bad ideas, but at the time, the great pioneers like Bruce and Jon were trying to build a new model without a rule book.  The "community" model lent itself to so many great ideas that we've all benefited from.  A few on the otherhand, have passed their sell-by-date.

We won't get everything right, but we're trying.

Tom

« Reply #56 on: September 24, 2008, 07:51 »
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For those that reported difficulty logging on, we found an issue with our load-balanced multi-server system.  One of our servers lost access to shared "session" information which retrieved previous user settings/preferences.

They believe they've fixed the issue, but if it happens again, I would be grateful if you drop me an email or post here on the board.

A big thanks to all who reported this, it helped our developers quickly get to what they beleive was the cause.  And of course I am sorry for the inconvenience this caused. 

Tom

« Reply #57 on: September 24, 2008, 13:00 »
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Thank you!

Looks like it is working now!

« Reply #58 on: September 24, 2008, 14:53 »
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oboy .. thanks are due to you and others.

Your choice is to persevere with us or give up.  I would more than understand that (in a crowded world) you might choose the latter.  You didn't, so thanks again.

Tom

« Reply #59 on: September 24, 2008, 16:10 »
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Tom, Would it be possible to give the automatic generated emails form you system an logical email address name for the sender? Something like no-reply@vivozoom.com. Because right now they are all blogged or land in the junk mail folder and I can't mark them as save because they do not have a logical email address name.

« Reply #60 on: September 25, 2008, 00:41 »
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oboy..  thanks for spotting this.

Have asked the developers for their view on this.  I originally liked the idea of no logical address so that if anyone hit "reply" (not noticing that it was not an attended email box) their email would not get sent (rather than sending one and not getting reply thus thinking we were ignoring them).

I'll get back to you on this and thanks for the suggestion!

Tom

« Reply #61 on: September 28, 2008, 14:10 »
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Microbius et al - we are in agreement.

We will have no facilities that allow others to rate your images nor see how many downloads an image has had.  Those things have no place at VZ.  All these decisions were supported by a vocal but passionate group of microstockers who gave us some great feedback in 2007.

In retrospect, these "gimmicks" might seem like bad ideas, but at the time, the great pioneers like Bruce and Jon were trying to build a new model without a rule book.  The "community" model lent itself to so many great ideas that we've all benefited from.  A few on the otherhand, have passed their sell-by-date.

We won't get everything right, but we're trying.

Tom


Hi Tom - I've been following this discussion but somehow just now noticed this post.  After emails and a call from Lawrence I'm on board with your new site and currently uploading my portfolio to it - but I have a question about how images will be displayed on the site for buyers.  Since there will be no user ratings of images and no ability to see how many downloads an image has had, I would assume that it wouldn't be possible to sort images in a keyword search by ratings or most downloads - so that leaves the question as to how can the images be sorted or will there be any sorting capability at all?  Or could it be that a keyword search will only order the images at random?  I may be wrong but it seems to me that random display of images could be a good thing especially if you're not going to be offering the buyers the ability to sort by image rating or number of downloads or "popularity".

Ken

« Reply #62 on: September 29, 2008, 05:16 »
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Ken - thanks for signing up.

The primary drivers are keyword-match and date for best match.

Our "pre-alpha" also has "oldest-first" and "random" as alternatives.

I'm sure it will change over time, but as Sherlock Holmes said "It's a capital mistake to theorize before one has data."

For example,there's no technical obstacle in offering a ranking by downloads (for a given set of results) without giving away the actual number of downloads, but it's not implemented.

Tom


« Reply #63 on: September 30, 2008, 13:13 »
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My dashboard shows

1 = Downloads
   = Amount Earned
1 = Uncashed Downloads

What is an "Uncashed Downloads"?

« Reply #64 on: September 30, 2008, 13:18 »
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It would be nice when you click on the number of approved images in the dashboard to show a list with thumbnails of the approved images. Could you also create the same for the rejected images?

charlesknox

  • www.charlesknoxphoto.com
« Reply #65 on: September 30, 2008, 19:46 »
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Also i just uploaded my portfolio of 360 and i recieved 360 emails saying we have successfully recieved 1 images

just something to consider

« Reply #66 on: October 01, 2008, 03:32 »
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Two contributors have reported a bug whereby images submitted for approval have ended up back in the manage area.

We'll take a look at this today and may have suspend uploads to diagnose.

Will post back when resolved.


Tom


« Reply #67 on: October 01, 2008, 03:36 »
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Charles - a bug. 

We set a timer of 30 minutes.  If you haven't uploaded any images via FTP for thirty minutes, we send an email with the results of the upload.

Clearly this fantastic piece of thinking isn't as good as it should be.

I'll forward to the developers and please pass on my apologies to your mail host.

Tom

« Reply #68 on: October 01, 2008, 03:46 »
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Oboy:

1.  "uncashed downloads".   We pay 40% of the net subscription revenues to contributors (rather than a flat fee per downlaod).   On a subscription model, we don't know what that share is until the subscription has expired or entered its next month.   At that point, we are able to divide 40% of the net receipts for that subscription by the number of downloads to get a per-image payout figure.  Until that time, it's flagged as "uncashed".   Does that make sense?  I suppose a help link next to the term might be useful too.

2.  Good idea on thumbnails for approved.  We've also asked the developers to provide a link to any images we have declined along with the reasons.

« Reply #69 on: October 01, 2008, 07:30 »
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can buyers even log in yet? or how do you have a sale.  When i try and go to the main page I get a log in form - then get a Not authorized message

« Reply #70 on: October 01, 2008, 08:18 »
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Charles... looks like something else was triggering the timer before the 30 minutes had elapsed.

Developers have now isolated the email timer into its own category.

Let me know if it happens again.

Thanks for reporting this.

Tom

« Reply #71 on: October 01, 2008, 08:23 »
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Leaf - we've been doing some tests on the client site.  This will filter through as downloads on the account page.

I'll get those zeroed out and disconnected from the test activity otherwise this will cause a ton of confusion.

Tom

charlesknox

  • www.charlesknoxphoto.com
« Reply #72 on: October 01, 2008, 08:38 »
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No problem

Your site looks good! im excited about it

« Reply #73 on: October 01, 2008, 09:22 »
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Oboy... getting back to on the emails getting flagged as spam.

Have requested a valid email address as you suggested of "no-reply@vivozoom.com".  This will be live very soon.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Tom

« Reply #74 on: October 02, 2008, 12:05 »
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Looks like images that have been rejected land back in the manage area. I can't delete them, the do not show up in the File Manager. Please, can you delete them?


 

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