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« Reply #100 on: June 25, 2011, 06:17 »
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His "pathetic" percentage (Laflor) is 40%. not that bad if you ask me.
And with all due respect to Yuri's work, he is no longer unique and has many clones today that don't fall from his quality IMO.

Has ever been anything even slightly unique about Yuri's work? It's as generic as it gets. The ligthing 'style' hardly changed an inch in like 7 years or smthng, and it's almost exactly the same lighting that has been used for some stock before micro, and is used by 39456243856798 other ppl for microstock, regardless of Yuri. That's how he wanted it since he started to chase sales. It's so production line stuff that I have hard time telling whether he is a good photog at all, I can just kinda suspect reading between the pixels that he is very good. I always wondered why he never-ever takes a break from the bubbegum stuff to shoot something insiparional, would be ineteresting (or maybe it happaened I just missed it?)


« Reply #101 on: June 25, 2011, 06:24 »
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His "pathetic" percentage (Laflor) is 40%. not that bad if you ask me.
And with all due respect to Yuri's work, he is no longer unique and has many clones today that don't fall from his quality IMO.

Has ever been anything even slightly unique about Yuri's work? It's as generic as it gets. The ligthing 'style' hardly changed an inch in like 7 years or smthng, and it's almost exactly the same lighting that has been used for some stock before micro, and is used by 39456243856798 other ppl for microstock, regardless of Yuri. That's how he wanted it since he started to chase sales. It's so production line stuff that I have hard time telling whether he is a good photog at all, I can just kinda suspect reading between the pixels that he is very good. I always wondered why he never-ever takes a break from the bubbegum stuff to shoot something insiparional, would be ineteresting (or maybe it happaened I just missed it?)

He has said quite openly that he subjects big selling genres to intensive analysis and reproduces all the elements that sell best, including the lighting. If you are a business you don't change a winning formula. The only problem is that he himself has become the best-selling genre so he becomes trapped in his own style.

He's probably only a "good" photographer in his technical ability. He has no interest at all in originality. But maybe he is right. Maybe photography is a purely technical medium where everything original was done decades ago and all we can do now is copy.

Slovenian

« Reply #102 on: June 25, 2011, 06:39 »
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His "pathetic" percentage (Laflor) is 40%. not that bad if you ask me.
And with all due respect to Yuri's work, he is no longer unique and has many clones today that don't fall from his quality IMO.

Has ever been anything even slightly unique about Yuri's work? It's as generic as it gets. The ligthing 'style' hardly changed an inch in like 7 years or smthng, and it's almost exactly the same lighting that has been used for some stock before micro, and is used by 39456243856798 other ppl for microstock, regardless of Yuri. That's how he wanted it since he started to chase sales. It's so production line stuff that I have hard time telling whether he is a good photog at all, I can just kinda suspect reading between the pixels that he is very good. I always wondered why he never-ever takes a break from the bubbegum stuff to shoot something insiparional, would be ineteresting (or maybe it happaened I just missed it?)

He has said quite openly that he subjects big selling genres to intensive analysis and reproduces all the elements that sell best, including the lighting. If you are a business you don't change a winning formula. The only problem is that he himself has become the best-selling genre so he becomes trapped in his own style.

He's probably only a "good" photographer in his technical ability. He has no interest at all in originality. But maybe he is right. Maybe photography is a purely technical medium where everything original was done decades ago and all we can do now is copy.

OK but so are all of the top 10 (except for Lise). Can anyone spot any difference between Yuri and Sjlocke? I sure can't, they both do, the stuff you mentioned above, boring, unoriginal, uninspirational stuff, you get tired of looking at in a few minutes. The same lighting, fake (american looking models) with cheesy toothy smiles that almost blind you (their teeth are whiter than tiles in my bathroom). I've never ever saw a photograph in their ports, that I thought of "wow that's original" or "they must had really have fun shooting that". They are producing images like mindless automatons, I could never do that (and I don't care if I deprive myself from tons of money - if I had the necessary, talent, skills etc that is)

lthn

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« Reply #103 on: June 25, 2011, 06:41 »
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His "pathetic" percentage (Laflor) is 40%. not that bad if you ask me.
And with all due respect to Yuri's work, he is no longer unique and has many clones today that don't fall from his quality IMO.

Has ever been anything even slightly unique about Yuri's work? It's as generic as it gets. The ligthing 'style' hardly changed an inch in like 7 years or smthng, and it's almost exactly the same lighting that has been used for some stock before micro, and is used by 39456243856798 other ppl for microstock, regardless of Yuri. That's how he wanted it since he started to chase sales. It's so production line stuff that I have hard time telling whether he is a good photog at all, I can just kinda suspect reading between the pixels that he is very good. I always wondered why he never-ever takes a break from the bubbegum stuff to shoot something insiparional, would be ineteresting (or maybe it happaened I just missed it?)

He has said quite openly that he subjects big selling genres to intensive analysis and reproduces all the elements that sell best, including the lighting. If you are a business you don't change a winning formula. The only problem is that he himself has become the best-selling genre so he becomes trapped in his own style.

He's probably only a "good" photographer in his technical ability. He has no interest at all in originality. But maybe he is right. Maybe photography is a purely technical medium where everything original was done decades ago and all we can do now is copy.

Sure, thats what I'm saying, but what's with all that talk about unique? It's nonsense. I always had a rasied eyebrow when I read stuff like that on the infamous shutterstock forums, certaib ppl telling newcomers to be 'unique'. If you go for sales in micro, being unique is out of the question.

Slovenian

« Reply #104 on: June 25, 2011, 06:46 »
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His "pathetic" percentage (Laflor) is 40%. not that bad if you ask me.
And with all due respect to Yuri's work, he is no longer unique and has many clones today that don't fall from his quality IMO.

Has ever been anything even slightly unique about Yuri's work? It's as generic as it gets. The ligthing 'style' hardly changed an inch in like 7 years or smthng, and it's almost exactly the same lighting that has been used for some stock before micro, and is used by 39456243856798 other ppl for microstock, regardless of Yuri. That's how he wanted it since he started to chase sales. It's so production line stuff that I have hard time telling whether he is a good photog at all, I can just kinda suspect reading between the pixels that he is very good. I always wondered why he never-ever takes a break from the bubbegum stuff to shoot something insiparional, would be ineteresting (or maybe it happaened I just missed it?)

He has said quite openly that he subjects big selling genres to intensive analysis and reproduces all the elements that sell best, including the lighting. If you are a business you don't change a winning formula. The only problem is that he himself has become the best-selling genre so he becomes trapped in his own style.

He's probably only a "good" photographer in his technical ability. He has no interest at all in originality. But maybe he is right. Maybe photography is a purely technical medium where everything original was done decades ago and all we can do now is copy.

Sure, thats what I'm saying, but what's with all that talk about unique? It's nonsense. I always had a rasied eyebrow when I read stuff like that on the infamous shutterstock forums, certaib ppl telling newcomers to be 'unique'. If you go for sales in micro, being unique is out of the question.

Not sure about that, Elena is doing pretty well being really unique. She's not earning millions, but she enjoys her work and people look at her stuff with their jaws dropped on their desks. That would be much more important to me and I'd rather be the kind of photographer (and graphic designer) she is than Yuri for instance.

Slovenian

« Reply #105 on: June 25, 2011, 06:47 »
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His "pathetic" percentage (Laflor) is 40%. not that bad if you ask me.
And with all due respect to Yuri's work, he is no longer unique and has many clones today that don't fall from his quality IMO.

Has ever been anything even slightly unique about Yuri's work? It's as generic as it gets. The ligthing 'style' hardly changed an inch in like 7 years or smthng, and it's almost exactly the same lighting that has been used for some stock before micro, and is used by 39456243856798 other ppl for microstock, regardless of Yuri. That's how he wanted it since he started to chase sales. It's so production line stuff that I have hard time telling whether he is a good photog at all, I can just kinda suspect reading between the pixels that he is very good. I always wondered why he never-ever takes a break from the bubbegum stuff to shoot something insiparional, would be ineteresting (or maybe it happaened I just missed it?)

He has said quite openly that he subjects big selling genres to intensive analysis and reproduces all the elements that sell best, including the lighting. If you are a business you don't change a winning formula. The only problem is that he himself has become the best-selling genre so he becomes trapped in his own style.

He's probably only a "good" photographer in his technical ability. He has no interest at all in originality. But maybe he is right. Maybe photography is a purely technical medium where everything original was done decades ago and all we can do now is copy.

Sure, thats what I'm saying, but what's with all that talk about unique? It's nonsense. I always had a rasied eyebrow when I read stuff like that on the infamous shutterstock forums, certaib ppl telling newcomers to be 'unique'. If you go for sales in micro, being unique is out of the question.

Not sure about that, Elena is doing pretty well being really unique. She's not earning millions (but she still makes a decent living), but she enjoys her work and people look at her stuff with their jaws dropped on their desks. That would be much more important to me and I'd rather be the kind of photographer (and graphic designer) she is than Yuri for instance.

« Reply #106 on: June 25, 2011, 06:55 »
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I've never ever saw a photograph in their ports, that I thought of "wow that's original" or "they must had really have fun shooting that". They are producing images like mindless automatons, I could never do that (and I don't care if I deprive myself from tons of money - if I had the necessary, talent, skills etc that is)

If they gave a hoot or even two about making other photographers "wow" about their work, we wouldn't be talking here - we'd all be buddies on flickr.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2011, 06:58 by Pheby »

« Reply #107 on: June 25, 2011, 07:23 »
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OK but so are all of the top 10 (except for Lise).


I don't know. I can't be bothered to look at their stuff. I do what I do and it doesn't make me rich but it keeps me going.

As for Lise (Gagne). I've seen her shredded over exactly what the source of her inspiration was. The difference between her and Yuri is that she was in mico first, so she had a whole industry to "inspire" her, Yuri came later so he narrowed down the search to a particular market sector.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2011, 16:40 by BaldricksTrousers »

« Reply #108 on: June 25, 2011, 08:00 »
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Slovenian what are you actually doing? I remember you saying you are like a exclusive at IS? Why are you always talking about other?

everybody does what they want, what on earth you know if people love doing or not?? happy or boring or sad??

I hate people that judge other without knowing, it is just STUPID and believe you arent going anywhere with this talk

Slovenian

« Reply #109 on: June 25, 2011, 08:02 »
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I've never ever saw a photograph in their ports, that I thought of "wow that's original" or "they must had really have fun shooting that". They are producing images like mindless automatons, I could never do that (and I don't care if I deprive myself from tons of money - if I had the necessary, talent, skills etc that is)

If they gave a hoot or even two about making other photographers "wow" about their work, we wouldn't be talking here - we'd all be buddies on flickr.

True, but not completely, proof of that is Lise, which I probably already mentioned a few times lately. Proof that you can do both, sell big time and be creative, at least sometimes and do what you want to do and not be a slave to the buyers (then it's no different to have a job where you are a modern day slave at least that's how I look at it)

Slovenian

« Reply #110 on: June 25, 2011, 08:15 »
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Slovenian what are you actually doing? I remember you saying you are like a exclusive at IS? Why are you always talking about other?

everybody does what they want, what on earth you know if people love doing or not?? happy or boring or sad??

I hate people that judge other without knowing, it is just STUPID and believe you arent going anywhere with this talk

OK, I'll pretend I understand what you're saying (and it's not just your poor English, it's your poor logic as usually).

1. I'm not exclusive. Not even sure what you mean by why am I always talking about others, it's a thread about Yuri and his, supposedly, new sales channel and everything it involves.

2. Because I don't think anyone is happy loading the conveyor belt at a factory and this is very similar to what they're doing (a bit of sarcasm or even cynicism)

3. without knowing what? Everything there's to know is what you see in their ports, buyers buy it the same way. Do you think they go out for a beer or what? :). Be careful who you direct stupid at, because I see often you don't get what ppl say, so I'm skipping your posts since they don't make any sense except for failed attempts of humour.

4. I didn' t come here to fight, but I have to respond to the post directed at me with such tone.

« Reply #111 on: June 25, 2011, 08:23 »
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OK, I'll pretend I understand what you're saying (and it's not just your poor English, it's your poor logic as usually).
wow.. you are polite! have a nice day

Slovenian

« Reply #112 on: June 25, 2011, 08:29 »
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OK, I'll pretend I understand what you're saying (and it's not just your poor English, it's your poor logic as usually).
wow.. you are polite! have a nice day

And STUPID ;)

« Reply #113 on: June 25, 2011, 08:34 »
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OK, I'll pretend I understand what you're saying (and it's not just your poor English, it's your poor logic as usually).
wow.. you are polite! have a nice day

And STUPID ;)

that does mean you ARE.. you have just done a thing that I think it is STUPID! hope you are following my poor English

and I can add one more thing.. how can you say that Yuri, Sean dont have a creative picture?? please take a minute or two and think!
« Last Edit: June 25, 2011, 08:50 by luissantos84 »

lthn

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« Reply #114 on: June 25, 2011, 09:54 »
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His "pathetic" percentage (Laflor) is 40%. not that bad if you ask me.
And with all due respect to Yuri's work, he is no longer unique and has many clones today that don't fall from his quality IMO.

Has ever been anything even slightly unique about Yuri's work? It's as generic as it gets. The ligthing 'style' hardly changed an inch in like 7 years or smthng, and it's almost exactly the same lighting that has been used for some stock before micro, and is used by 39456243856798 other ppl for microstock, regardless of Yuri. That's how he wanted it since he started to chase sales. It's so production line stuff that I have hard time telling whether he is a good photog at all, I can just kinda suspect reading between the pixels that he is very good. I always wondered why he never-ever takes a break from the bubbegum stuff to shoot something insiparional, would be ineteresting (or maybe it happaened I just missed it?)

He has said quite openly that he subjects big selling genres to intensive analysis and reproduces all the elements that sell best, including the lighting. If you are a business you don't change a winning formula. The only problem is that he himself has become the best-selling genre so he becomes trapped in his own style.

He's probably only a "good" photographer in his technical ability. He has no interest at all in originality. But maybe he is right. Maybe photography is a purely technical medium where everything original was done decades ago and all we can do now is copy.

Sure, thats what I'm saying, but what's with all that talk about unique? It's nonsense. I always had a rasied eyebrow when I read stuff like that on the infamous shutterstock forums, certaib ppl telling newcomers to be 'unique'. If you go for sales in micro, being unique is out of the question.

Not sure about that, Elena is doing pretty well being really unique. She's not earning millions (but she still makes a decent living), but she enjoys her work and people look at her stuff with their jaws dropped on their desks. That would be much more important to me and I'd rather be the kind of photographer (and graphic designer) she is than Yuri for instance.

Dunno who she is, but I have my doubts. Ppl in micro have a tendency to call some postcard shot with a grungy texture overlay hiper-super-peta original.

velocicarpo

« Reply #115 on: June 25, 2011, 10:44 »
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His "pathetic" percentage (Laflor) is 40%. not that bad if you ask me.
And with all due respect to Yuri's work, he is no longer unique and has many clones today that don't fall from his quality IMO.

Has ever been anything even slightly unique about Yuri's work? It's as generic as it gets. The ligthing 'style' hardly changed an inch in like 7 years or smthng, and it's almost exactly the same lighting that has been used for some stock before micro, and is used by 39456243856798 other ppl for microstock, regardless of Yuri. That's how he wanted it since he started to chase sales. It's so production line stuff that I have hard time telling whether he is a good photog at all, I can just kinda suspect reading between the pixels that he is very good. I always wondered why he never-ever takes a break from the bubbegum stuff to shoot something insiparional, would be ineteresting (or maybe it happaened I just missed it?)

He has said quite openly that he subjects big selling genres to intensive analysis and reproduces all the elements that sell best, including the lighting. If you are a business you don't change a winning formula. The only problem is that he himself has become the best-selling genre so he becomes trapped in his own style.

He's probably only a "good" photographer in his technical ability. He has no interest at all in originality. But maybe he is right. Maybe photography is a purely technical medium where everything original was done decades ago and all we can do now is copy.

OK but so are all of the top 10 (except for Lise). Can anyone spot any difference between Yuri and Sjlocke? I sure can't, they both do, the stuff you mentioned above, boring, unoriginal, uninspirational stuff, you get tired of looking at in a few minutes. The same lighting, fake (american looking models) with cheesy toothy smiles that almost blind you (their teeth are whiter than tiles in my bathroom). I've never ever saw a photograph in their ports, that I thought of "wow that's original" or "they must had really have fun shooting that". They are producing images like mindless automatons, I could never do that (and I don't care if I deprive myself from tons of money - if I had the necessary, talent, skills etc that is)

I completely agree! Every now and then I have to push myself towards those commercial Photos because automatically I get bored by my own shots and can`t resist the desire of producing some stuff I really want to express....maybe this is originality, I don`t know and I don`t care.
When you produce those commercial microstock shots it is just plain work. Automated and boring. Sad that the Stock world offers only possiblities to commercialize this kind of work instead of making it more tenting to produce originality.

Slovenian

« Reply #116 on: June 25, 2011, 17:38 »
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His "pathetic" percentage (Laflor) is 40%. not that bad if you ask me.
And with all due respect to Yuri's work, he is no longer unique and has many clones today that don't fall from his quality IMO.


Has ever been anything even slightly unique about Yuri's work? It's as generic as it gets. The ligthing 'style' hardly changed an inch in like 7 years or smthng, and it's almost exactly the same lighting that has been used for some stock before micro, and is used by 39456243856798 other ppl for microstock, regardless of Yuri. That's how he wanted it since he started to chase sales. It's so production line stuff that I have hard time telling whether he is a good photog at all, I can just kinda suspect reading between the pixels that he is very good. I always wondered why he never-ever takes a break from the bubbegum stuff to shoot something insiparional, would be ineteresting (or maybe it happaened I just missed it?)


He has said quite openly that he subjects big selling genres to intensive analysis and reproduces all the elements that sell best, including the lighting. If you are a business you don't change a winning formula. The only problem is that he himself has become the best-selling genre so he becomes trapped in his own style.

He's probably only a "good" photographer in his technical ability. He has no interest at all in originality. But maybe he is right. Maybe photography is a purely technical medium where everything original was done decades ago and all we can do now is copy.


Sure, thats what I'm saying, but what's with all that talk about unique? It's nonsense. I always had a rasied eyebrow when I read stuff like that on the infamous shutterstock forums, certaib ppl telling newcomers to be 'unique'. If you go for sales in micro, being unique is out of the question.


Not sure about that, Elena is doing pretty well being really unique. She's not earning millions (but she still makes a decent living), but she enjoys her work and people look at her stuff with their jaws dropped on their desks. That would be much more important to me and I'd rather be the kind of photographer (and graphic designer) she is than Yuri for instance.


Dunno who she is, but I have my doubts. Ppl in micro have a tendency to call some postcard shot with a grungy texture overlay hiper-super-peta original.


At least slightly above some postcard shot with a grungy texture overlay, wouldn't you say http://www.istockphoto.com/search/portfolio/5767540/?facets={%2225%22%3A%226%22}#a80ef49 ?;)


lthn

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« Reply #117 on: June 26, 2011, 03:04 »
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His "pathetic" percentage (Laflor) is 40%. not that bad if you ask me.
And with all due respect to Yuri's work, he is no longer unique and has many clones today that don't fall from his quality IMO.


Has ever been anything even slightly unique about Yuri's work? It's as generic as it gets. The ligthing 'style' hardly changed an inch in like 7 years or smthng, and it's almost exactly the same lighting that has been used for some stock before micro, and is used by 39456243856798 other ppl for microstock, regardless of Yuri. That's how he wanted it since he started to chase sales. It's so production line stuff that I have hard time telling whether he is a good photog at all, I can just kinda suspect reading between the pixels that he is very good. I always wondered why he never-ever takes a break from the bubbegum stuff to shoot something insiparional, would be ineteresting (or maybe it happaened I just missed it?)


He has said quite openly that he subjects big selling genres to intensive analysis and reproduces all the elements that sell best, including the lighting. If you are a business you don't change a winning formula. The only problem is that he himself has become the best-selling genre so he becomes trapped in his own style.

He's probably only a "good" photographer in his technical ability. He has no interest at all in originality. But maybe he is right. Maybe photography is a purely technical medium where everything original was done decades ago and all we can do now is copy.


Sure, thats what I'm saying, but what's with all that talk about unique? It's nonsense. I always had a rasied eyebrow when I read stuff like that on the infamous shutterstock forums, certaib ppl telling newcomers to be 'unique'. If you go for sales in micro, being unique is out of the question.


Not sure about that, Elena is doing pretty well being really unique. She's not earning millions (but she still makes a decent living), but she enjoys her work and people look at her stuff with their jaws dropped on their desks. That would be much more important to me and I'd rather be the kind of photographer (and graphic designer) she is than Yuri for instance.


Dunno who she is, but I have my doubts. Ppl in micro have a tendency to call some postcard shot with a grungy texture overlay hiper-super-peta original.


At least slightly above some postcard shot with a grungy texture overlay, wouldn't you say http://www.istockphoto.com/search/portfolio/5767540/?facets={%2225%22%3A%226%22}#a80ef49 ?;)


Not really : / I'v seen that, I still have the same opinion: a few are very nice, motsly terrible kitsch. But this is exactly what I'm talking about: women with butterfly-fairy wings, and other 'flowig' stuff on their backs or birdies flying arouns them f.e.... does anyone seiously think thats original and unique? : O You gotta be joking. Thats the most overabused kitsch theme in the universe.

Slovenian

« Reply #118 on: June 26, 2011, 03:12 »
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^^Now ur exaggerating;). There are a few "women with butterfly-fairy wings, and other 'flowig' stuff on their backs or birdies flying arouns them f.e.", but they represent a very small percentage. Of course everyone has a different view of uniqueness (which she is, I can't find a similar port at any MS agency), I'm curious to know what or who you find interesting (not challenging you or trying to prove you wrong, I'm just genuinely interested;)

XPTO

« Reply #119 on: June 26, 2011, 03:45 »
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His "pathetic" percentage (Laflor) is 40%. not that bad if you ask me.
And with all due respect to Yuri's work, he is no longer unique and has many clones today that don't fall from his quality IMO.

Unless he's got a special deal with IS, his percentage is 20% as a non-exclusive.

lthn

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« Reply #120 on: June 26, 2011, 03:45 »
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^^Now ur exaggerating;). There are a few "women with butterfly-fairy wings, and other 'flowig' stuff on their backs or birdies flying arouns them f.e.", but they represent a very small percentage. Of course everyone has a different view of uniqueness (which she is, I can't find a similar port at any MS agency), I'm curious to know what or who you find interesting (not challenging you or trying to prove you wrong, I'm just genuinely interested;)


ohh you gotta be joking again. fairy women (or men) with wings a rare unique image? Women with flowing stuff + textures + lots of PP is just a current overcrowded fashion in image theme, deviantart is swimming in it. I like this. It's not super original because he is inspired by paintings, but very few ppl do stuff like this imho.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevsyd/

Slovenian

« Reply #121 on: June 26, 2011, 04:07 »
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But we're talking about MS, not flickr, deviantart etc  ???

lthn

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« Reply #122 on: June 26, 2011, 04:52 »
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pretty much the same applies

« Reply #123 on: June 26, 2011, 04:59 »
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I like this. It's not super original because he is inspired by paintings, but very few ppl do stuff like this imho.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevsyd/




Oh, god, that is such a rip-off of the "Dutch Golden Age" artists' style! It's no more original that Yuri. The only reason very few people do it is that it isn't "high commercial value" stock.  Of course, in technical terms (reproducing the lighting etc) it is very good indeed but it is completely devoid of artistic vision.

« Reply #124 on: June 26, 2011, 05:36 »
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His "pathetic" percentage (Laflor) is 40%. not that bad if you ask me.
And with all due respect to Yuri's work, he is no longer unique and has many clones today that don't fall from his quality IMO.

Unless he's got a special deal with IS, his percentage is 20% as a non-exclusive.

But he is an exclusive....


 

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