Author Topic: Want to work for Yuri? He's starting his own direct sales channel (Read 39475 times)

aeonf · « **Reply #75 on:** June 18, 2011, 11:24 »

You may all be surprised.
I am willing to bet our dear Sean makes more money then him (NET!).
His worthyness to the varius MS sites is highly overated (with all due respect to YA).

luissantos84 · « **Reply #76 on:** June 18, 2011, 11:27 »

Quote from: aeonf on June 18, 2011, 11:24

You may all be surprised.
I am willing to bet our dear Sean makes more money then him (NET!).
His worthyness to the varius MS sites is highly overated (with all due respect to YA).

that´s just going WAY OT

Risamay · « **Reply #77 on:** June 18, 2011, 11:34 »

Very interesting. Go Yuri!

Slovenian · « **Reply #78 on:** June 18, 2011, 17:26 »

Quote from: aeonf on June 18, 2011, 11:24

You may all be surprised.
I am willing to bet our dear Sean makes more money then him (NET!).
His worthyness to the varius MS sites is highly overated (with all due respect to YA).

Indeed, Yuri has 50 employees, 4 studios (if I'm not mistaken), he's a factory. Although he makes so much more in royalties, he has expenses that dozens of times bigger than Sean's. Those are 2 totally different approaches to stock, although results are almost identical (not just in terms of quality but also in the looks of the photos, I could never tell the difference if they used new models).

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #79 on:** June 19, 2011, 00:44 »

Quote from: iclick on June 18, 2011, 10:31

The Guys a Genus and him walking out of Isock if it ever happened would be the last thing they would need right now.

Nobody does it better ..... a tad Jealously out there perhaps

He is a genius, but primarily a business genius, not a photographic genius. He's outstanding at what he does but his photography is not original in any way. What is original is the way he has analysed stock photogaph and turned the production of high=value photos into a science. He's the Henry Ford of microstock. He didn't invent the motor car, he invented high-volume production of a very basic but extremely usable product and marketed it brilliantly.

I might be a bit jealous of his youth, energy and self-confidence but not of his pictures, business or earnings.

helix7 · « **Reply #80 on:** June 20, 2011, 09:39 »

Quote from: aeonf on June 18, 2011, 11:24

You may all be surprised.
I am willing to bet our dear Sean makes more money then him (NET!)...

Love to start my week with a good laugh. Thanks for that.

Slovenian · « **Reply #81 on:** June 20, 2011, 10:26 »

Quote from: helix7 on June 20, 2011, 09:39

Quote from: aeonf on June 18, 2011, 11:24
You may all be surprised.
I am willing to bet our dear Sean makes more money then him (NET!)...

Love to start my week with a good laugh. Thanks for that.

He's talking about net. Yuri has so much expenses (50 employees, 4 studios etc) that I really doubt he makes as much profit as Sean. His overall earnings are of course much, much higher, perhaps even 10 times higher (don't forget macros and he makes or at least did make most on FT),

aeonf · « **Reply #82 on:** June 20, 2011, 10:41 »

Quote from: Slovenian on June 20, 2011, 10:26

Quote from: helix7 on June 20, 2011, 09:39
Quote from: aeonf on June 18, 2011, 11:24
You may all be surprised.
I am willing to bet our dear Sean makes more money then him (NET!)...

Love to start my week with a good laugh. Thanks for that.

He's talking about net. Yuri has so much expenses (50 employees, 4 studios etc) that I really doubt he makes as much profit as Sean. His overall earnings are of course much, much higher, perhaps even 10 times higher (don't forget macros and he makes or at least did make most on Fotolia),

Thanks for saving me the trouble. Bot everyody knows the difference between income and profit

RacePhoto · « **Reply #83 on:** June 20, 2011, 21:07 »

Quote from: Mantis on June 18, 2011, 07:07

Quote from: ffNixx on June 18, 2011, 06:41
While I think Yuri will take on contributors, my hunch would be that it's going to be invitation only. Top talent that can expand the range on offer. I certainly don't think he'll play by the established "rules" of the business - it's time to innovate. That said, it's anything but clear whether he has the vision to succeed. His announcement, on second look, has holes you could drive a truck through. Namely, you don't attract the best professionals on a freelance and part-time basis.

Will it be a factor of who has the best isolated tomato or apple on white?

I was just working on the perfect cheeseburger and investing in some fake ice cubes for perfect cocktails. Now you've ruined my whole master plan by exposing the new improved best isolations of overdone subjects.

I was just dreaming of the cheeseburger PNG that would let me retire and work on every variety and color of tomato sliced and diced.

What's missing from this thread is unsustainable if Yuri leaves, some of the agencies will be approaching this reality. People can try to rationalize how unimportant one contributor is, but the fact if the matter is, he's also the best selling and brings in the largest percentage of profit for the agencies. If you were in business selling anything and your largest profit source left or stopped buying from you, it's going to hurt. No way around it.

What I'd like to see? Yuri drops all outside agencies and goes interdependent. Let the shoestring agencies that survive on his sales, go away, so we can have stronger, solid, reliable agencies. Then of course the biggest problem for me personally is the race to the bottom, to pay the lowest commissions and sell for the lowest prices, because of the FBN agencies, competing on price alone. If they go away, maybe the big ones will raise licenses to something respectable.

Slovenian · « **Reply #84 on:** June 21, 2011, 14:42 »

I was talking today to a bigtime microstocker and he said Yuri was talking already last year (on a MS convention or whatever it was called organized by IS, if I'm not mistaken in Ireland) about going going completely RM. Of course he can't sell his old stuff as RM, but according to that all the work from now on will be RM. So he could pull all his stuff from the sites and sell it in the RF section of the site, or leave it there and enjoy his slowly decreasing MS earnings for many years to come.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #85 on:** June 21, 2011, 16:38 »

Sigh... Of course he could sell it RM (but let's not start that one

).

Slovenian · « **Reply #86 on:** June 21, 2011, 17:09 »

Indeed, you best keep your fingers crossed, so you can take a piece of the action when he's gone;)

jvoetsch · « **Reply #87 on:** June 24, 2011, 13:54 »

jbarber873 said it right.

Having had the opportunity to work with Yuri in the past on one of our photo sites, I can honestly say every single image was perfection. Great composition and quality.

Yuri has such a huge client base that even if he did pull out from every agency, he would succeed. His clients know him and would follow to support him, even if it meant paying more per image.

Good for Yuri and I hope he makes even a bigger mark in this industry than he already has.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #88 on:** June 24, 2011, 14:28 »

Quote from: jvoetsch on June 24, 2011, 13:54

Yuri has such a huge client base that even if he did pull out from every agency, he would succeed. His clients know him and would follow to support him, even if it meant paying more per image.

Unfortunately, training quite a few people to do exactly what he does, pretty much guarantees that buyers will still find what they are looking for where they currently shop.

Slovenian · « **Reply #89 on:** June 24, 2011, 14:37 »

Quote from: sjlocke on June 24, 2011, 14:28

Quote from: jvoetsch on June 24, 2011, 13:54
Yuri has such a huge client base that even if he did pull out from every agency, he would succeed. His clients know him and would follow to support him, even if it meant paying more per image.

Unfortunately, training quite a few people to do exactly what he does, pretty much guarantees that buyers will still find what they are looking for where they currently shop.

Perhaps he'll rehire them and surely they can make more being exclusive at his agency, than from the pathetic percentage IS pays;) (I've heard of only one of his ex assistants and he's at IS)

aeonf · « **Reply #90 on:** June 24, 2011, 14:52 »

His "pathetic" percentage (Laflor) is 40%. not that bad if you ask me.
And with all due respect to Yuri's work, he is no longer unique and has many clones today that don't fall from his quality IMO.

nruboc · « **Reply #91 on:** June 24, 2011, 15:13 »

Unfortunately, there are a few folks that are jealous of Yuri, mostly I sense from some upper echelon exclusives that are probably bitter that he has flown by them as an independent with only a portion of his portfolio. These folks are quite obvious in that they will try to knock everything that he does.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #92 on:** June 24, 2011, 15:43 »

Lol, don't try to read too much into other people's posts...

Slovenian · « **Reply #93 on:** June 24, 2011, 15:46 »

Quote from: nruboc on June 24, 2011, 15:13

Unfortunately, there are a few folks that are jealous of Yuri, mostly I sense from some upper echelon exclusives that are probably bitter that he has flown by them as an independent with only a portion of his portfolio. These folks are quite obvious in that they will try to knock everything that he does.

Yeah they always make me laugh, they're so pathetic!

Slovenian · « **Reply #94 on:** June 24, 2011, 15:48 »

Quote from: aeonf on June 24, 2011, 14:52

His "pathetic" percentage (Laflor) is 40%. not that bad if you ask me.
And with all due respect to Yuri's work, he is no longer unique and has many clones today that don't fall from his quality IMO.

It is compared to a fair 60% (like on Alamy for instance). That's a 50% jump in earnings!

BTW, how do you know he's getting 40% anyway? Because he said so in the forums?

nruboc · « **Reply #95 on:** June 24, 2011, 21:02 »

Well at least there's 1 thing Yuri can't lay claim to, I'm sure his Blog is not the top Google search result for 'istockphoto pricing filter'

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #96 on:** June 24, 2011, 22:29 »

Yeah, well, you've got to throw me that bone, at least.

aeonf · « **Reply #97 on:** June 25, 2011, 04:49 »

Quote from: Slovenian on June 24, 2011, 15:48

Quote from: aeonf on June 24, 2011, 14:52
His "pathetic" percentage (Laflor) is 40%. not that bad if you ask me.
And with all due respect to Yuri's work, he is no longer unique and has many clones today that don't fall from his quality IMO.

It is compared to a fair 60% (like on Alamy for instance). That's a 50% jump in earnings!

BTW, how do you know he's getting 40% anyway? Because he said so in the forums?

In life some of your neighbors will always have a greener grass then yours.
I find 40% fair, but I don't really care about percentage since my bank doesn't accept percentage as a deposit. They do accept dollars though.
Look at how everybody loves SS and they don't even know what percentage they pay...
I would take 5% of 1,000,000 over 100% of 10,000$ any day.

Regarding Laflor. I don't need him to tell me he is in the 40% range. he has ~7,000 downloads a month which means ~700,000 RC's a year.

Slowly catching up to Sean

Slovenian · « **Reply #98 on:** June 25, 2011, 06:05 »

Quote from: aeonf on June 25, 2011, 04:49

Quote from: Slovenian on June 24, 2011, 15:48
Quote from: aeonf on June 24, 2011, 14:52
His "pathetic" percentage (Laflor) is 40%. not that bad if you ask me.
And with all due respect to Yuri's work, he is no longer unique and has many clones today that don't fall from his quality IMO.

It is compared to a fair 60% (like on Alamy for instance). That's a 50% jump in earnings!

BTW, how do you know he's getting 40% anyway? Because he said so in the forums?

In life some of your neighbors will always have a greener grass then yours.
I find 40% fair, but I don't really care about percentage since my bank doesn't accept percentage as a deposit. They do accept dollars though.
Look at how everybody loves Shutterstock and they don't even know what percentage they pay...
I would take 5% of 1,000,000 over 100% of 10,000$ any day.

Regarding Laflor. I don't need him to tell me he is in the 40% range. he has ~7,000 downloads a month which means ~700,000 RC's a year.

Slowly catching up to Sean

You're right in everything, except for the fact that IS is loosing it's market share, according to the reports it's already no. 2 and if Yuri's customers would follow him and if he got some new ones, than higher royalties would be just one of the reasons why Laflor and the rest that worked with Yuri would earn more. I'm sure Laflor would just leave something that's going great for him, but he could wait until some stats got revealed and just upload his whole port at the mean time on Yuri's site (but of course not making it live). Then like a flip of a lightswitch, he'd jump boat and get more and get some respect and fair treatment from the agency.

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #99 on:** June 25, 2011, 06:06 »

I recall Sean saying long ago that factories that train their own potential competitors were shooting themselves in the foot.

Does Sean actually compete with the blue-rinse handshake crowd? If not, I doubt if he cares how well they do.

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