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Microstock Photography Forum - General => General Stock Discussion => Topic started by: Pauws99 on April 28, 2018, 10:55
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I've just uploaded a small batch of pics....suggest we use this thread to record whats happening and our experience of them...and use other threads to debate pros and cons.
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How are you pricing and marketing your portfolio?
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I just uploaded a few pics. It is hard to log on but if you are willing to wait a long while it will log on. No ability to price yet as pictures have to be approved. Wait and see. Hope site works out but no new site has been successful in over 10 years. If they don't have a big(BIG) marketing program I guarantee this site will also fail.
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I'm waiting to see whats approved before I think about pricing etc...found it OK to log in and upload but no ftp.
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Judging by the people involved looks like an interesting project. Too bad it's photography only.
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Looks like a decent incentive to upload early.
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Looks like a decent incentive to upload early.
Why, what are they giving away?
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Why, what are they giving away?
100% commissions on any sale for up to 500 photos uploaded before May 1
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I'm waiting to see whats approved before I think about pricing etc...found it OK to log in and upload but no ftp.
I am uploading now, and their browser upload is quite fast. Good enough that I am not worrying about no ftp.
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Why, what are they giving away?
100% commissions on any sale for up to 500 photos uploaded before May 1
Sounds a lot 100%, too good to be true? Yes, the normal rate is 85% so you get given 15% on your first 500. If you upload 5,000 photos that's a whole 15% of 10% and given that half your images wont sell, if any do, the enticement is 7.5%of 10% in this situation, much of which will be canabalised from other sources you sell from. I think they need to increase that to at least 5,000 if they want to get anywhere near the inventory they need to compete.
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Their site seems super WOW, but I have absolutely no clue what they are doing. For me it seems too good to be true. Who are these mysterious top producing SS and GI photographers that have joined Wemark? Exclusive or Non-Exclusive? RF or RM? Payout minimums? How to convert their play money to real money? The list goes on...
I for one will not gamble with my work and send it into a well spun black hole.
The site has sold me on how much more I could make assuming their are sales, but why would any buyer leave a well greased machine ie: SS, AS, GI etc. from their shopping list?
The only way this could work is if most photographers sold their photos for $0.50 each on Wemark, then and only then could it compete with the subscription model most of us hate.
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Is the site open for business? I can't even see a search box!
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Nobody cares about "Wemark Tokens". Now 100% for sure and in the future i think so too. They should use bitcoins.
Why i do not see a search function? It`s looking for me as someone is trying to make money with a new crypto currency. Trying to sell "Wemark Tokens".
If we earn money, how to transfer to Euro or USD to my bank account? At the end of the day a bank still gets involved.. not?
They should use bitcoins.
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More % to photographers as the main reason why the buyers should care? Most buyers don't care. At all.
But when I see their list of investors and advisers I must say this smells on money. Seems like they got marketing covered so the potential is definitely there.
Still, I think it's too early to submit work. They should prepare all the functions for contributors, including the payment system, and they should accept all rasters (not just photos) and vectors from the start. And we shouldn't wait who knows how long until the marketplace starts working.
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Click on token sales, then scroll down to the bottom to the road-map. It shows the planned dates for an alpha launch then a beta launch. It also show a 4th quarter 2018 addition for payouts to credit cards, wire transfers, bitcoin, ethereum, and other cryptocoins.
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I know. As I've said, submitting now is too early. The question is why they need the content now? Why they reward with 100% the content submitted until the May 1st? Why not until (much) latter?
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Their site seems super WOW, but I have absolutely no clue what they are doing. For me it seems too good to be true. Who are these mysterious top producing SS and GI photographers that have joined Wemark? Exclusive or Non-Exclusive? RF or RM? Payout minimums? How to convert their play money to real money? The list goes on...
I for one will not gamble with my work and send it into a well spun black hole.
The site has sold me on how much more I could make assuming their are sales, but why would any buyer leave a well greased machine ie: SS, AS, GI etc. from their shopping list?
The only way this could work is if most photographers sold their photos for $0.50 each on Wemark, then and only then could it compete with the subscription model most of us hate.
I don't really see uploading a small number of files as much of a gamble anymore than uploading them to Agencies where they can finish up god knows where under some obscure partnership agreement which you may be unable to leave for months if at all without leaving the site.
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I know. As I've said, submitting now is too early. The question is why they need the content now? Why they reward with 100% the content submitted until the May 1st? Why not until (much) latter?
I'm not sure why anyone considers that a mystery. This is a new agency that wants to compete in the market. To do that, they need a large image base to sell from. Offering 100% on the first 500 photos uploaded before May 1 is a way to encourage people to submit those 500 images, giving them a head start into their target market.
They say they have 40,000 photos now. Most established agencies have multiple millions (SS was at 180 Million last time I looked). How else is WeMark going to get enough images to be viable?
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Still, I think it's too early to submit work. They should prepare all the functions for contributors, including the payment system, and they should accept all rasters (not just photos) and vectors from the start. And we shouldn't wait who knows how long until the marketplace starts working.
You obviously don't have to submit now. By waiting, you may decide to never upload if WeMark fizzles (which is rather likely). However, if they do succeed, then by waiting, you:
1) Will pay an extra 15% commission on all images. Upload your very best sellers now, and those will be commission free forever (or so the ad says...)
2) A smaller library means a better chance of your coming up on the searches, which means a larger % of WeMark sales will be YOUR sales. With 180 Million images on SS, it is harder to show up on the search results than with 40,000 images on WeMark (today -- will obviously be higher by their release date).
This is a typical question that all employees ask when faced with joining a startup. Do you risk getting nothing beyond the low starting salary of a startup, in exchange for a possible much larger payout later? Or stick with Fortune 500 companies where you get a straight salary as long as you are there?
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Sounds a lot 100%, too good to be true? Yes, the normal rate is 85% so you get given 15% on your first 500. If you upload 5,000 photos that's a whole 15% of 10% and given that half your images wont sell, if any do, the enticement is 7.5%of 10% in this situation, much of which will be canabalised from other sources you sell from. I think they need to increase that to at least 5,000 if they want to get anywhere near the inventory they need to compete.
I don't think your math or logic holds up.
First, you are not canabalising your other agencies. Do you really think that someone will go to xxx agency, not see your specific photo, and then come to wherever you are so that they can buy your photo? No. They will buy whatever is the best fit at the agency they are currently in. If your photo is not at that agency, you lose the sale. Period. Thus, you either get the sale if you are in their game, or you don't when you are not in the game.
Second, you only get the 100% royalty on 500 images. Presumably, you will know that, and thus upload your best sellers now for that first 500. WeMark knows that, and wants exactly that, so that the best sellers are quickly added to their library. You (presumably) know that, and will put in the images now that will bring the most revenue.
Anything past that 500 is not relevant. You will get 85% of the buyer payment. Do you know any other agency that pays that high a rate?? If not, then don't gripe that someone doing the marketing and infrastructure is taking 15%... (Amazon takes 55% of the video sales I make there)
You might complain that WeMark has no customers yet. Sure enough. Amazon didn't have any customers when they started approaching vendors to set up accounts to sell through them either. (I am not saying WeMark is a potential Amazon, but noting that EVERY company starts with zero, and then the successful ones build from there)
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Is the site open for business? I can't even see a search box!
No. The site is not yet open for business, as their site clearly states. They are trying to get photogs to load up now, so that they have something to sell when the customers arrive.
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Is the site open for business? I can't even see a search box!
No. The site is not yet open for business, as their site clearly states. They are trying to get photogs to load up now, so that they have something to sell when the customers arrive.
The site doesn't "clearly" state it on their homepage or about page.
In fact, on their home page, above the fold, there is a big heading saying, "License from top photographers" which implies that should be doable now.
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Hmmmm...sceptical.
They have marketing sussed? Then how come I only heard about them (here) today and the 500-pics deal runs out tomorrow?
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The site doesn't "clearly" state it on their homepage or about page.
In fact, on their home page, above the fold, there is a big heading saying, "License from top photographers" which implies that should be doable now.
Gotta admit, it is not all that obvious. I did find it last night while checking them out, but had a hard time finding it again today.
I did find it though. The site officially starts May 7, as seen in this screenshot (from https://tge.wemark.com (https://tge.wemark.com) ) --
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hc43thmqs7c23cw/WeMark%20Starts%20May%207.png?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/hc43thmqs7c23cw/WeMark%20Starts%20May%207.png?dl=0)
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Hmmmm...sceptical.
They have marketing sussed? Then how come I only heard about them (here) today and the 500-pics deal runs out tomorrow?
Because they already landed 40,000 approved images in that deal, and I am guessing more than that over the weekend. They probably don't want TOO many images that will be royalty-free for life... OTOH, they do want to build up a library large enough for their launch on May 7 to say they are a serious contender.
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The site doesn't "clearly" state it on their homepage or about page.
In fact, on their home page, above the fold, there is a big heading saying, "License from top photographers" which implies that should be doable now.
Gotta admit, it is not all that obvious. I did find it last night while checking them out, but had a hard time finding it again today.
I did find it though. The site officially starts May 7, as seen in this screenshot (from https://tge.wemark.com (https://tge.wemark.com) ) --
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hc43thmqs7c23cw/WeMark%20Starts%20May%207.png?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/hc43thmqs7c23cw/WeMark%20Starts%20May%207.png?dl=0)
Oh well, I'm too stupid for them.
I don't even know what TGE means.
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TGE = Token generation event. It's listed on the road map at the bottom of token page.
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TGE = Token generation event. It's listed on the road map at the bottom of token page.
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Well, like so many startups on here, you can all laugh at me next year when you're rich.
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With the photographer selling directly to the buyer where does the licensing agreement come in to play? Does Wemark have standard licenses that the buyer agrees to or is the contributor supplying their own?
Or, are their any? Dumb question, perhaps.
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Illustrator, vectors, video, stock music and 3D models should be patient until Q1 2019
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TGE = Token generation event. It's listed on the road map at the bottom of token page.
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Well, like so many startups on here, you can all laugh at me next year when you're rich.
Right?
I still don't get this. There doesn't appear to be a USP here, so I'm not sure why buyers would go there or to any of these. Looking at the about page on the site:
"Wemark is not a stock photo agency - Photographers licence their photo directly to customers with no middleman involved, hence customers get better prices." - Well, they are a "middleman" because they're taking a cut. Even though being "not a photo agency" gets them out of any responsibility for anything. And there's no guarantee anyone gets "better pricing".
"Know exactly who licensed your photos" - How do you "know" who licensed your photo? Isn't "the blockchain" anonymous? How does this help me in any way?
"Keep full rights on your photos" - I already keep full rights on my photos.
"Digital currency instead of credits - As a next generation platform, Wemark supports its own digital currency. Wemark Tokens allow for both customers and photographers to become a part of the platform's economy and value." - Still not sure why I would want made up "money" in such a tiny niche.
"Photographers earn more for their work - Wemark sets a new standard for stock photography royalties - photographers keep 85% of the photo sale price." - I host my work at Photoshelter. I get 89% of the sale price, so ....
I'm still not sure what problem any of this solves. Or if it actually solves it. Work is still hosted, it must be searchable, it must be sold, it must be paid for.
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Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but unlike stock agencies these people don't actually have to sell stock to make money do they. I mean they make money by selling cryptocurrency - and the only way to sell cryptocurrency is by making enough people believe that their crypto flavour of the day has an intrinsic value of some sort. The truth is though that without our free inventory they have no product of their own. All they have is a concept and a platform. An illusion.
Call me cynical, but to me the majority of the marketing pitch on their site is geared towards photographers not just in an effort to attract them as contributors but also as potential investors. Again, great if you buy into all of this, but for me that low transaction commission speaks volumes about their long term commitment to maintaining a platform capable of seriously disrupting the industry.
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Illustrator, vectors, video, stock music and 3D models should be patient until Q1 2019
I have no problem with that even it was longer. I am a wait and see guy.
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Oh well, I'm too stupid for them.
I don't even know what TGE means.
There was a reason once why words needed more than one letter to be uniquely recognizable.
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Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but unlike stock agencies these people don't actually have to sell stock to make money do they. I mean they make money by selling cryptocurrency - and the only way to sell cryptocurrency is by making enough people believe that their crypto flavour of the day has an intrinsic value of some sort. The truth is though that without our free inventory they have no product of their own. All they have is a concept and a platform. An illusion.
Call me cynical, but to me the majority of the marketing pitch on their site is geared towards photographers not just in an effort to attract them as contributors but also as potential investors. Again, great if you buy into all of this, but for me that low transaction commission speaks volumes about their long term commitment to maintaining a platform capable of seriously disrupting the industry.
I think you might be right, but I don't think the pitch is directed at contributors. Contributors know what their problems are and they aren't the buzzwords at the Wemark site. "Creators are usually forced to give up: Most of the rights over their content". That's a flat-out lie, but it's not the photographers who are the target.
The main theme of the pitch is, it's a supercentralized market and everyone wants out, there is some money to make on that move.
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Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but unlike stock agencies these people don't actually have to sell stock to make money do they. I mean they make money by selling cryptocurrency - and the only way to sell cryptocurrency is by making enough people believe that their crypto flavour of the day has an intrinsic value of some sort. The truth is though that without our free inventory they have no product of their own. All they have is a concept and a platform. An illusion.
Call me cynical, but to me the majority of the marketing pitch on their site is geared towards photographers not just in an effort to attract them as contributors but also as potential investors. Again, great if you buy into all of this, but for me that low transaction commission speaks volumes about their long term commitment to maintaining a platform capable of seriously disrupting the industry.
I think you might be right, but I don't think the pitch is directed at contributors. Contributors know what their problems are and they aren't the buzzwords at the Wemark site. "Creators are usually forced to give up: Most of the rights over their content". That's a flat-out lie, but it's not the photographers who are the target.
The main theme of the pitch is, it's a supercentralized market and everyone wants out, there is some money to make on that move.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but unlike stock agencies these people don't actually have to sell stock to make money do they. I mean they make money by selling cryptocurrency - and the only way to sell cryptocurrency is by making enough people believe that their crypto flavour of the day has an intrinsic value of some sort. The truth is though that without our free inventory they have no product of their own. All they have is a concept and a platform. An illusion.
Call me cynical, but to me the majority of the marketing pitch on their site is geared towards photographers not just in an effort to attract them as contributors but also as potential investors. Again, great if you buy into all of this, but for me that low transaction commission speaks volumes about their long term commitment to maintaining a platform capable of seriously disrupting the industry.
I think you might be right, but I don't think the pitch is directed at contributors. Contributors know what their problems are and they aren't the buzzwords at the Wemark site. "Creators are usually forced to give up: Most of the rights over their content". That's a flat-out lie, but it's not the photographers who are the target.
The main theme of the pitch is, it's a supercentralized market and everyone wants out, there is some money to make on that move.
I hear what you are saying, but it still feels to me like they are preaching to the choir. Buyers don't give a rat's wrinkled rectum about supplier equity and the agencies clearly don't either. The only ones who really care are those of us with a vested interest in seeing a more equitable system. Don't get me wrong, from an arms length investor perspective I can see the appeal of exploiting a huge base of highly disgruntled creative types with nowhere else to turn, but in order for that to work not only would contributors need to come onboard in massive numbers, but so would buyers. As far as I can tell Wemark has 0 market position with an ICO soft capped at 1.5M and a hard cap at 8M. Even if the ICO were very successful and reached the hard cap and every penny of that was reinvested in marketing (of which there is no discussion) is that enough to lure buyers away from the big 3? Who knows, but if not I am doubtful that independent investors will be willing to life support this through the entire cycle. I think someone else already asked this question but if this were really about disrupting the market and creating a crypto based platform why did they not just go with bitcoin taking their 15% cut and leave it at that. Because this is not about photographers or buyers or the market. It's about WMK. I think savvy investors will see right through this, desperate photographers I'm not so sure.
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I hear what you are saying, but it still feels to me like they are preaching to the choir. Buyers don't give a rat's wrinkled rectum about supplier equity and the agencies clearly don't either. The only ones who really care are those of us with a vested interest in seeing a more equitable system. Don't get me wrong, from an arms length investor perspective I can see the appeal of exploiting a huge base of highly disgruntled creative types with nowhere else to turn, but in order for that to work not only would contributors need to come onboard in massive numbers, but so would buyers. As far as I can tell Wemark has 0 market position with an ICO soft capped at 1.5M and a hard cap at 8M. Even if the ICO were very successful and reached the hard cap and every penny of that was reinvested in marketing (of which there is no discussion) is that enough to lure buyers away from the big 3? Who knows, but if not I am doubtful that independent investors will be willing to life support this through the entire cycle. I think someone else already asked this question but if this were really about disrupting the market and creating a crypto based platform why did they not just go with bitcoin taking their 15% cut and leave it at that. Because this is not about photographers or buyers or the market. It's about WMK. I think savvy investors will see right through this, desperate photographers I'm not so sure.
I dunno. I was never a savvy investor myself, so I don't know how they are thinking. All my income comes from building my expertise in a few different areas, and I don't really have time for seeking new and immediate investment opportunities. Maybe I will when I retire.
It's just that the whole language of the site is for emotional types. Vague and urgent. There may be a whole bunch of people desperately seeking where to grow their money, and that maybe it, a short but a seemingly decent fly-by-night opportunity. Who says they should be savvy to act on it? Maybe they shouldn't.
If I thought that site was counting on me to put some money up, I wouldn't expect them to use cryptocoin lingo right on the front page with no explanations (how many photographers/artists or designers know what that is or ever used it?). I would also not expect them to use some nonsense catch-phrases to describe the problem. The problem isn't "the lack of control" or that "a big part of the hard-earned money is taken away" or that "contributors' rights are taken away". It all sounds like a justification for a third uninvolved and unfamiliar with the realities party. "Look, we are gonna open the floodgates, everybody just waits to start selling through us, the value of coins are going to shoot through the roof, there's going to be such huge demand for them". Hence the free doughnuts for everyone who uploads before May 1, to justify that statement.
That doesn't mean that this place will not exist after half a year, it just doesn't look like the primary goal after the low hanging fruit is picked.
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Slightly different perspectives, same conclusion. :)
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Slightly different perspectives, same conclusion. :)
Pretty much :)
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Slightly off topic... today I just sold all of the real estate I bought with my Monopoly money and got 0.85c on the dollar, time to retire, it was well worth the wait.
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Did you hold it long enough to beat inflation?
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After years reading many asking for new solutions, new business model and new actors in the market, I don't understand why so many people don't give credit to this offer.
For sure there are many things that have to be cleared, for sure it starts with zero buyers, for sure it will take years to take off.
But this is really the new business model that everyone is asking for. Maybe wemark will not win the race, but this model it's the future so I'll give a try
For sure I don't think I'll become rich in few months 😁
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But this is really the new business model that everyone is asking for.
What's new about it? They host the image, they take a cut when you sell an image, the buyer gets an image. I'm not seeing anything groundbreaking here, aside from the bookkeeping behind the scenes. Like I said, I get a better rate on Photoshelter for the same thing.
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I think it might be because some of us just don't see a bona fide business model here. Nor even a worthwhile investment for that matter. Some of us might just see it for what it really might be - a highly speculative venture which is requesting the unpaid use of our assets to build a potentially lucrative vehicle for the benefit and enrichment of others with nothing more than a carrot of hope that it might pay off down the road for any of us as contributors. Sound familiar?
I am not against the overall concept in any way. I completely agree that cryptocurrencies are here to stay, and that the model really does have merit and holds promise for many applications in this industry. What bothers me personally is what I consider the arrogance of those who know that the market is in such a deplorable state for so many contributors that they can count on the most critical component of their "business model" to be supplied absolutely free of charge. Yes, agencies do exactly the same thing, except with agencies there is a degree of comfort in knowing that at least in some abstract way their fortunes are tied directly to actual sales. This "offer" is not the same thing at all.
Just to be clear, I would consider this an opportunity if there were something tangible in it for me. Something like stakeholder equity in WTK based on contribution level sounds fair. If this were a creative group based initiative (as opposed to venture capitalists) I would be even more inclined to get involved. As it stands right now though - no thanks.
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But this is really the new business model that everyone is asking for.
What's new about it? They host the image, they take a cut when you sell an image, the buyer gets an image. I'm not seeing anything groundbreaking here, aside from the bookkeeping behind the scenes. Like I said, I get a better rate on Photoshelter for the same thing.
What is new is inside the blockchain system.
You will have no more need to put your transactions in a middle centralized ledger. You can control where and when your work is used, no more thief no more search around the web.
The blockchain give you the key, exactly as you work as an agency by yourself. You have a decentralized database, and, just to give you an example, none will be able to costrain you to lowering price or put your work in "special discount offer".
This is a great (and, I think) revolutionary business model, far far away from any other agencies model.
Of course, as I said before, there are many things that have to be cleared, and I haven't knowledge to find all the answers I would like to have.
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What is new is inside the blockchain system.
You will have no more need to put your transactions in a middle centralized ledger. You can control where and when your work is used, no more thief no more search around the web.
The blockchain give you the key, exactly as you work as an agency by yourself. You have a decentralized database, and, just to give you an example, none will be able to costrain you to lowering price or put your work in "special discount offer".
This is a great (and, I think) revolutionary business model, far far away from any other agencies model.
How do I "control where and when my work is used" if it is an RF license? And if it is just that I write my own license, how is that different from any other self hosted shop. Like Photoshelter (again), I have my own license. I'm also not constrained to any price and I can offer discounts. So, again, you're not telling me anything groundbreaking here.
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What is new is inside the blockchain system.
You will have no more need to put your transactions in a middle centralized ledger. You can control where and when your work is used, no more thief no more search around the web
OK, please explain to me in words of one syllable how the blockchain stops thieves from lifting legitimately purchased files from the websites they were purchased for, which is how most thefts occur.
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What is new is inside the blockchain system.
You will have no more need to put your transactions in a middle centralized ledger. You can control where and when your work is used, no more thief no more search around the web
OK, please explain to me in words of one syllable how the blockchain stops thieves from lifting legitimately purchased files from the websites they were purchased for, which is how most thefts occur.
And isn't this just a Wemark ledger? What if I want to join another blockchain site. Don't I have to reupload everything into their ledger?
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How do I "control where and when my work is used" if it is an RF license? And if it is just that I write my own license, how is that different from any other self hosted shop. Like Photoshelter (again), I have my own license. I'm also not constrained to any price and I can offer discounts. So, again, you're not telling me anything groundbreaking here.
OK, please explain to me in words of one syllable how the blockchain stops thieves from lifting legitimately purchased files from the websites they were purchased for, which is how most thefts occur.
And isn't this just a Wemark ledger? What if I want to join another blockchain site. Don't I have to reupload everything into their ledger?
Ok guys, I'm not the expert one :-) And I'm also not english native language so please forgive me for my poor explanations!
Anyway:
As i said, once more, there are a lot of thing to be cleared and I have no answers about licenses.
Sean, if photoshelter is good for you, it's up to you, it's your choiche, I don't work for wemark and I don't want to convince you what is the best for you.
I'm simply saying that I think this will be a big change in the market (future)
Shadysue, the reason is simply that you digital property is inside a distribuited database and none else can can claim the property. Now you have to ask to the agency to control this, in the blockchain structure everyone can know who is the legitimate owner and if they want to use it they have to pay you and only you.
OF COURSE this is valid only for files in the blockchain. Outside it there will still exist thieves. This is a great reason to drive your content in blockchain structure (IMO).
Sean, wemark ledger simply doesn't exist. Ledger is public and everyone can access it. All the net validate your content and your transaction, Wemark (or anyone else) don't do this job.
So, you don't put your content in "someone else" ledger, you put your content in public distribuited ledger that anyone can access and control.
Ok, it's not so simple, and as I have to underline I'M NOT AN EXPERT!
This is what I understood, reading something about the blockchain structure.
My faith goes to the general idea of distribuited ledger, I'm not promoting one or other site/network.
Feel free of course to get info, I'm interested in new opinions! :)
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After years reading many asking for new solutions, new business model and new actors in the market, I don't understand why so many people don't give credit to this offer.
Derby, not trying to beat up on you here, it's just that I get the feeling you may have fallen for Wemark's marketing hype and are conflating what they are trying to do with blockchain technology in general. The two really have little to do with each other. If it's just web theft you are worried about then you should check this out...https://binded.com (https://binded.com). Sean, if you are selling on Photoshelter then maybe it might be of interest to you as well.
I think sooner rather than later traditional agencies will be integrating blockchain into their systems. Frankly they will have to. For anyone interested in what some independent photographers are doing with blockchain today you might be interested in this...https://www.artnome.com/news/2018/3/4/how-blockchain-will-change-photography (https://www.artnome.com/news/2018/3/4/how-blockchain-will-change-photography)
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Getty are said to have a deal with Totem, so that will make it sooner.
https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/baidu-totem-starts-a-blockchain-digital-images-rights-protection-platform/
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wemark youtube channel... https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKIxNl0HhoTWshUnrBL70Og (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKIxNl0HhoTWshUnrBL70Og)
just uploaded 300 pics... will see.
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A couple more benefits as I understand it...
It's transparent.
When a buyer buys a photo, the photographers share goes directly to them. It isn't put in a holding pot until you've got $100, and isn't calculated in the back end (full of bugs) and then tabulated at the end of the month. When a purchase is made, you get the money - straight forward.
Less transaction costs
Credit card and paypal fees are between 4-5% .. that's 4-5% extra that could be going to us. Using their own coin, the transaction cost doesn't exist.
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What would be cool in the future is if the image file had a digital signature in it. When someone scraped the image off google and used it in their blog or office document, the software would ask - have you paid for this? We can't see your purchase on the blockchain. Please link your purchase or click here to license the image for $4.00. :)
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What is new is inside the blockchain system.
You will have no more need to put your transactions in a middle centralized ledger. You can control where and when your work is used, no more thief no more search around the web
OK, please explain to me in words of one syllable how the blockchain stops thieves from lifting legitimately purchased files from the websites they were purchased for, which is how most thefts occur.
Perhaps to be fair, you should try asking that question in words of only one syllable. (Remember, you can't use the word "blockchain" as that's two syllables.)
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A couple more benefits as I understand it...
It's transparent.
When a buyer buys a photo, the photographers share goes directly to them. It isn't put in a holding pot until you've got $100, and isn't calculated in the back end (full of bugs) and then tabulated at the end of the month. When a purchase is made, you get the money - straight forward.
Less transaction costs
Credit card and paypal fees are between 4-5% .. that's 4-5% extra that could be going to us. Using their own coin, the transaction cost doesn't exist.
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What would be cool in the future is if the image file had a digital signature in it. When someone scraped the image off google and used it in their blog or office document, the software would ask - have you paid for this? We can't see your purchase on the blockchain. Please link your purchase or click here to license the image for $4.00. :)
Do yourself a bit of due diligence and contact them and ask how they are going to convert play money into real $$$ that you can actually go into a real store in the real world and buy a tangible edible such as peanut butter... the reply I got was they are still working on that. The reply I got was so vague they simply will not get one pixel of imagery from me.
BTW... since when is PayPal and credit card fees 4-5%? more like 2.9%.
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convert play money into real $$$ that you can actually go into a real store in the real world and buy a tangible edible such as peanut butter...
Just as much "play money" as the credits you are used to at Fotolia.
As with all cryptocurrencies, you would have a digital wallet where they are stored, and you are free to exchange them for anything else (Bitcoin, $$$, Ethereum, etc.) at an exchange of your choice, just like with yen to dollars, or you can exchange them directly with another individual.
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convert play money into real $$$ that you can actually go into a real store in the real world and buy a tangible edible such as peanut butter...
Just as much "play money" as the credits you are used to at Fotolia.
As with all cryptocurrencies, you would have a digital wallet where they are stored, and you are free to exchange them for anything else (Bitcoin, $$$, Ethereum, etc.) at an exchange of your choice, just like with yen to dollars, or you can exchange them directly with another individual.
" I sell pictures on Fotolia as I think their Credits system is great".....said no one.....ever. You are right but I think the need to trade in Crypto is a significant negative...the positive is the ability to track pictures. The other is commission rate which is not really to do with whatever they are traded for.
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convert play money into real $$$ that you can actually go into a real store in the real world and buy a tangible edible such as peanut butter...
Just as much "play money" as the credits you are used to at Fotolia.
As with all cryptocurrencies, you would have a digital wallet where they are stored, and you are free to exchange them for anything else (Bitcoin, $$$, Ethereum, etc.) at an exchange of your choice, just like with yen to dollars, or you can exchange them directly with another individual.
So you contacted the people at Wemark and they said their "play money" is converted to $$$. They told me a few days ago that this was not possible as of yet and they would be working on that later. My understanding with Fotolia is that their "play money" is instantly converted to $$$ via Paypal or whatever payout medium you use once you meet the threshold. The universally unknown WMK is not easily converted and the need to trade in Crypto is just one more obstacle to getting your $$$. 80% of ICO are scams. I won't put a pixel into anything that is not tried, true, and tested.
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The universally unknown WMK is not easily converted and the need to trade in Crypto is just one more obstacle to getting your $$$. 80% of ICO are scams. I won't put a pixel into anything that is not tried, true, and tested.
They offer crypto currencies to pay.
if you don't like this don't apply, where is the problem?
It's not an obstacle it's a choice.... Crypto currencies can be changed in usd or euro or whatever you want.
Every month I change my earnings I euros, so?
They are not an agency and change different coins is not their job, exactly what all (majority) of agencies do, paying in dollars. After all is up to you to change, or not?
So this is really not the point.
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Page looks ok. 85% is fair. If that gives signs of real life, I'll be soon there with my best content. Bad content will be left for the ones who sell and pay my work as i it was worthless.
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Page looks ok. 85% is fair. If that gives signs of real life, I'll be soon there with my best content. Bad content will be left for the ones who sell and pay my work as i it was worthless.
Can you point me to their Terms and Conditions?
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The universally unknown WMK is not easily converted and the need to trade in Crypto is just one more obstacle to getting your $$$. 80% of ICO are scams. I won't put a pixel into anything that is not tried, true, and tested.
They offer crypto currencies to pay.
if you don't like this don't apply, where is the problem?
It's not an obstacle it's a choice.... Crypto currencies can be changed in usd or euro or whatever you want.
Every month I change my earnings I euros, so?
They are not an agency and change different coins is not their job, exactly what all (majority) of agencies do, paying in dollars. After all is up to you to change, or not?
So this is really not the point.
You think when a creative in a business goes to the finance manager and says I want to buy some images in crypto it won't often be seen as an obstacle? It would be a choice if there were more than one way of paying. Absolutely the biggest point to me ...."will buyers use it?" that above everything is why agencies will succeed or fail.
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The universally unknown WMK is not easily converted and the need to trade in Crypto is just one more obstacle to getting your $$$. 80% of ICO are scams. I won't put a pixel into anything that is not tried, true, and tested.
They offer crypto currencies to pay.
if you don't like this don't apply, where is the problem?
It's not an obstacle it's a choice.... Crypto currencies can be changed in usd or euro or whatever you want.
Every month I change my earnings I euros, so?
They are not an agency and change different coins is not their job, exactly what all (majority) of agencies do, paying in dollars. After all is up to you to change, or not?
So this is really not the point.
Cryptocurrencies are very volatile. One day you might get $8000 for your bitcoin, the next day $10k, the day after that $7.5k.
Similarly finance managers won't be sure how much the picture is going to cost in dollars (or whatever their company's accounts are in).
So it will be an issue until cryptocurrencies settle down.
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The universally unknown WMK is not easily converted and the need to trade in Crypto is just one more obstacle to getting your $$$. 80% of ICO are scams. I won't put a pixel into anything that is not tried, true, and tested.
They offer crypto currencies to pay.
if you don't like this don't apply, where is the problem?
It's not an obstacle it's a choice.... Crypto currencies can be changed in usd or euro or whatever you want.
Every month I change my earnings I euros, so?
They are not an agency and change different coins is not their job, exactly what all (majority) of agencies do, paying in dollars. After all is up to you to change, or not?
So this is really not the point.
Cryptocurrencies are very volatile. One day you might get $8000 for your bitcoin, the next day $10k, the day after that $7.5k.
Similarly finance managers won't be sure how much the picture is going to cost in dollars (or whatever their company's accounts are in).
So it will be an issue until cryptocurrencies settle down.
I think you are misunderstanding their need for a cyrtocurrencies and how it may work. They need to use one to record the blockchain transaction. They need to have their own, as opposed to others on the market, so they can control it in their own stable environment. Therefore, they can use it as a token or credit without any fluctuations in the price.
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I think you are misunderstanding their need for a cyrtocurrencies and how it may work. They need to use one to record the blockchain transaction. They need to have their own, as opposed to others on the market, so they can control it in their own stable environment. Therefore, they can use it as a token or credit without any fluctuations in the price.
Maybe I am misunderstanding, but I'm afraid your explanation didn't really clarify things :-(
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Therefore, they can use it as a token or credit without any fluctuations in the price.
The question for me is not what they can do, but mostly what they will do. So far I haven't seen from them much interest in photography or other visual content. They keep talking about new technologies (if you inbreds don't understand our lingo, kindly stfu), Ethereum (of all things really important for designers), and how much money everyone will make (oooo, exciting!). Just sounds a bit fishy. But I am willing to wait and see.
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I think you are misunderstanding their need for a cyrtocurrencies and how it may work. They need to use one to record the blockchain transaction. They need to have their own, as opposed to others on the market, so they can control it in their own stable environment. Therefore, they can use it as a token or credit without any fluctuations in the price.
Maybe I am misunderstanding, but I'm afraid your explanation didn't really clarify things :-(
Sorry, a bit abstract for you, I will try and cut out the shorthand and add a few words to make it more understandable.
Volatillty of their crytocurrency is not an issue.
These enterprises sprouting up all over the place using blockchain technology are after information, the sellers and the buyers and the transaction that occurs between them, if they were agencies that information flow would breakdown and be useless. Unfortunately, for these enterprises to get that information they currently have to use crytocurrencies to record the transaction within the blockchain, which is not popular with sellers or buyers, but unavoidable it they are to gather the information they need. The transaction could be done using any crytocurrency, but using their own crytocurrency allows them to keep the transaction/information within their grasp. Volatility of the currency is not an issue as the transaction is almost instant and as the crytocurrency, remains within their own little ecosystem, for now at least, there is no reason for the price to change. Both buyer and seller get hit with a transaction fee, albeit a small one, it is an extra one.
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So, if this transaction is between the buyer and seller, why do they get 15%?
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So, if this transaction is between the buyer and seller, why do they get 15%?
Someone has to build and pay for the tech.
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Who is going to inspect the files?
The main reason customers buy from stock agencies is that they know they get technical quality and the legal risk is drastically mimized because editors check every individual image at 100% for logos etc...and they also read the model releases to make sure it is commercially usable.
If they have no inspection, why should I pay them any money?
The internet is full of billions of uninspected files.
Their project does‘t address any of the concerns customers or photographers have.
It is obviously not created by someone who understand the stock industry. I seriously doubt any of them have ever made money with stock files.
They might as well open a bakery and advertise...you can buy our bread with bitcoin!!!
So what? Who cares? Will the bread taste any better?
To me it looks like a quick money grab project. Create something connected to „cryptos“. Try to generate many „followers“...don‘t worry about „monetizing“ it is all about growth...then flip it quickly to the next groupf of investors that have no clue about the industry...and cash out.
There are a lot of „companies“ being set up like this everywhere. They are driven by the easily available investor money circling the globe.
These projects can live for a few years, until someone decides they actually have to show a real profit...aand then it dies a slow death...
I do believe that cryptos as another form of currency or payment options will be added by most agencies at some point.
I also think that blockchain technology might be an interesting add on for new types of licenses.
But it doesn‘t touch the basic problem of customers - how to find the right high quality file for their projects in the sea of billions of new images uploaded globally every week.
I am sure the current investors will make some money.
But it has no influence on our industry.
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I think you are misunderstanding their need for a cyrtocurrencies and how it may work. They need to use one to record the blockchain transaction. They need to have their own, as opposed to others on the market, so they can control it in their own stable environment. Therefore, they can use it as a token or credit without any fluctuations in the price.
Maybe I am misunderstanding, but I'm afraid your explanation didn't really clarify things :-(
Sorry, a bit abstract for you, I will try and cut out the shorthand and add a few words to make it more understandable.
Volatillty of their crytocurrency is not an issue.
These enterprises sprouting up all over the place using blockchain technology are after information, the sellers and the buyers and the transaction that occurs between them, if they were agencies that information flow would breakdown and be useless. Unfortunately, for these enterprises to get that information they currently have to use crytocurrencies to record the transaction within the blockchain, which is not popular with sellers or buyers, but unavoidable it they are to gather the information they need. The transaction could be done using any crytocurrency, but using their own crytocurrency allows them to keep the transaction/information within their grasp. Volatility of the currency is not an issue as the transaction is almost instant and as the crytocurrency, remains within their own little ecosystem, for now at least, there is no reason for the price to change. Both buyer and seller get hit with a transaction fee, albeit a small one, it is an extra one.
Thanks for taking the time to explain that. V helpful.
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Not sure if this has been answered, but does Wemark read embedded meta data?
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The universally unknown WMK is not easily converted and the need to trade in Crypto is just one more obstacle to getting your $$$. 80% of ICO are scams. I won't put a pixel into anything that is not tried, true, and tested.
They offer crypto currencies to pay.
if you don't like this don't apply, where is the problem?
It's not an obstacle it's a choice.... Crypto currencies can be changed in usd or euro or whatever you want.
Every month I change my earnings I euros, so?
They are not an agency and change different coins is not their job, exactly what all (majority) of agencies do, paying in dollars. After all is up to you to change, or not?
So this is really not the point.
Cryptocurrencies are very volatile. One day you might get $8000 for your bitcoin, the next day $10k, the day after that $7.5k.
Similarly finance managers won't be sure how much the picture is going to cost in dollars (or whatever their company's accounts are in).
So it will be an issue until cryptocurrencies settle down.
No, if for instance, you buy a WMK or whatever at $1 and the next day it's price dropped to $.75 you still have invested the dollar. Spending the WMK will cost you a dollar. Similarly you could buy a couple more at the lower rate, for investment or to use as you saw fit. The more people that buy in the more perceived value and the price goes up until more "coins" are created. Which in the case of bitcoin is done through the processing of transactions.
The price that you paid for the WMK is constant, whether it loses or gains value.
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Yes, and if you buy a 1 coin image today with the coin you bought yesterday, you've lost $.25 instead of buying it today. No company is going to play games like that.
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If your finance officer authorises buying the coin today what you get tomorrow could easily be +/- 10%. While I can imagine individuals and very small businesses indulging I can't see bigger corporates engaging in this for quite some time. How many businesses actually pay their supplier in crypto?...very very few I suspect. I think Wemark has a future but not in toppling SS. Maybe Middle tier.
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Yes, and if you buy a 1 coin image today with the coin you bought yesterday, you've lost $.25 instead of buying it today. No company is going to play games like that.
Sadly too many photographers will play games like that. The image they sold yesterday will get them 25% less today when and if they can figure out how to convert that into tangible currency today. Or maybe they will get 289% more today wink wink.
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* Only whitelisted users can contribute This is what is on the Wemark web site today..Something has a smell to this ? Dose this mean you have to buy their coins to upload ? They did not mention this earlier ? Also no ability to see website yet.
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It still all comes back to the buyer. They are getting images for pennies from the big microstock companies and it is very simple to deal with them. What motive would there be for them to switch?
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* Only whitelisted users can contribute This is what is on the Wemark web site today..Something has a smell to this ? Dose this mean you have to buy their coins to upload ? They did not mention this earlier ? Also no ability to see website yet.
If these means contributors have to do this will kill it stone dead. I have heard nothing since I originally signed up so much for giving a tuppeny one for caring about contributors. Just put this on their FB page lets see what they say "I have a registration request as a photographer still pending since April 28. Do I have to sign up to this as well? Do you really care about photographers if so do you consider that an acceptable level of service for a modern tech company?....I don't."
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They only want hipsters as contributor, their infograph is pretty clear about that. I'm not going to grow a beard just to be approved.
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They only want hipsters as contributor, their infograph is pretty clear about that. I'm not going to grow a beard just to be approved.
Big mistake. Beards are still very much in. You can be the money guy on the left though.
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I guess they wouldn't want any cliched images :o
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"Hi Paul! Apologise for the confusion, the whitelist registration is not for creators, so you don't need to sign up again. As we're launching the marketplace at the end of June, the whitelist registration allows potential buyers to get approved before they purchase tokens. In the future, there will be much easier ways for customers to purchase tokens and license photos, this is merely the first step.
The approval of creators to the marketplace might take longer than we expected, as we got much more photos submitted than we ever imagined."
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The approval of creators to the marketplace might take longer than we expected, as we got much more photos submitted than we ever imagined."
I guess after 260px is redefined as a "thumbnail" this place appears more and more attractive by the minute. Let's hope images sell themselves. 8)
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hey guys, i need some information. I uploded about 300 pics on this site. I'm looking forward to see if it will work.
Have you heard that we can make a request to be on a whitelisted for Wemark's token sale? Are you going to get some? Is it only for pictures buyers?
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hey guys, i need some information. I uploded about 300 pics on this site. I'm looking forward to see if it will work.
Have you heard that we can make a request to be on a whitelisted for Wemark's token sale? Are you going to get some? Is it only for pictures buyers?
I think anyone can buy tokens.....no way would I touch them. Seems to me the crypto market is now stagnant at best with the only people profiting are those manipulating the market. Have you been approved pics accepted yet?
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hey guys, i need some information. I uploded about 300 pics on this site. I'm looking forward to see if it will work.
Have you heard that we can make a request to be on a whitelisted for Wemark's token sale? Are you going to get some? Is it only for pictures buyers?
I think anyone can buy tokens.....no way would I touch them. Seems to me the crypto market is now stagnant at best with the only people profiting are those manipulating the market. Have you been approved pics accepted yet?
Thanks! None of my pics was approved so far... i uploaded my pics around, 27 may...
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hey guys, i need some information. I uploded about 300 pics on this site. I'm looking forward to see if it will work.
Have you heard that we can make a request to be on a whitelisted for Wemark's token sale? Are you going to get some? Is it only for pictures buyers?
I think anyone can buy tokens.....no way would I touch them. Seems to me the crypto market is now stagnant at best with the only people profiting are those manipulating the market. Have you been approved pics accepted yet?
Thanks! None of my pics was approved so far... i uploaded my pics around, 27 may...
Mine too not a great sign really
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hey guys, i need some information. I uploded about 300 pics on this site. I'm looking forward to see if it will work.
Have you heard that we can make a request to be on a whitelisted for Wemark's token sale? Are you going to get some? Is it only for pictures buyers?
I think anyone can buy tokens.....no way would I touch them. Seems to me the crypto market is now stagnant at best with the only people profiting are those manipulating the market. Have you been approved pics accepted yet?
Correction... uploaded since april 27...
Thanks! None of my pics was approved so far... i uploaded my pics around, 27 may...
Mine too not a great sign really
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My ID is still not approved after two months. No idea about my images I have uploaded. Have I wasted my time once more ?
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Can you use pseudonym or it just creates an account based on your full name because I cant find any options?
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I'm not buying the tokens. If it's a success, we can make money selling our images there. If it fails, I wont lose anything. I'd be more interested if they had a good answer to the EU VAT problem, if the cryptocurrency market had bottomed out and if ICO's were more trustworthy.
I don't understand why there can't be a smart contract, so that funds are only released to ICO's when they achieve certain goals. At the moment, it's too easy for them to promise a lot and deliver very little.
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Just had my ID accepted now waiting for their "expert" inspectors to assess my submission.....I uploaded a bit of a hotch potch so will be interesting to see what they make of it...eventually.
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Not even my ID's been approved at this stage.
Just had my ID accepted now waiting for their "expert" inspectors to assess my submission.....I uploaded a bit of a hotch potch so will be interesting to see what they make of it...eventually.
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April 28 was when I signed up 3 months......
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Just got my ID approved. it took about 3 months. No other word on what or when site will open. So far not very good communication.
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Just got my ID approved. it took about 3 months. No other word on what or when site will open. So far not very good communication.
With the way Cryptocurrencies are at best drifting I'm not holding my breath ;-).
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It still feels like the early days of the internet. Lots of smart people working on something new but it might take a long time before the dream becomes reality. There's also the risk that as they have the investment before making the platform, there might not be a huge incentive to get on with the work. Steemit and NoLimitCoin work but they've been around much longer. There aren't many new cryptocurrency projects that have something that's usable at the moment.
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It still feels like the early days of the internet. Lots of smart people working on something new but it might take a long time before the dream becomes reality. There's also the risk that as they have the investment before making the platform, there might not be a huge incentive to get on with the work. Steemit and NoLimitCoin work but they've been around much longer. There aren't many new cryptocurrency projects that have something that's usable at the moment.
and like that of the thousands of ideas a few will maybe make huge money but knowing which ones is the trick ;-). I'm not convinced though that crypto is more than a niche. Time will tell.
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Just got my ID approved. it took about 3 months. No other word on what or when site will open. So far not very good communication.
same for me...
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They just launched alpha version
https://www.wemark.com/ (https://www.wemark.com/)
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They just launched alpha version
https://www.wemark.com/ (https://www.wemark.com/)
I thought they said they had a million images......probably 870,000 waiting for review :o https://coinidol.com/wemark-announces-curated-stock-photography-marketplace-using-blockchain-technology/ (https://coinidol.com/wemark-announces-curated-stock-photography-marketplace-using-blockchain-technology/)
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If I do a search for Germany, the first image that comes up is the Holocaust memorial in Berlin which is a protected under art/copyright and cannot be sold as RF.
Looks like their editors need some training.
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If I do a search for Germany, the first image that comes up is the Holocaust memorial in Berlin which is a protected under art/copyright and cannot be sold as RF.
Looks like their editors need some training.
I think you mean can't be sold except editorially.
However, they also have several images keyworded 'Olympic Games' (not sure they were really taken there, though) with no editorial restriction. Even if not taken at real Olympics, I'm sure the IOU will be onto them.
I see also the pics I clicked on have no photographer credit, but that was a very small sample.
Some very odd keywording in that bunch I clicked on too.
Very peculiar search result for my fave test: Blue Whale! Mostly swimmers in the default return, with a tennis player, a racing driver an Orca and a Humpback ...
Wouldn't be interested, even if they used conventional money.
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If I do a search for Germany, the first image that comes up is the Holocaust memorial in Berlin which is a protected under art/copyright and cannot be sold as RF.
Looks like their editors need some training.
Why would they have editors they are not an agency offering thousands of dollars worth of indemnity to buyers, they are just transaction facilitators, that's just one of the sellers problems.
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Right. I thought the whole point was to ‘cut out the middleman’ ( even though they’re still the middleman, lol).
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Sorry, I meant commercial RF. Of course it could be sold for editorial, but I didn‘t see a restriction or notice that it is editorial only.
The main reason customers pay money at a marketplace is to avoid legal pitfalls.
Otherwise stealing from the internet is always cheaper...or downloading from the free sites that have tons of copyrighted or stolen material uploaded. Or using a file with a CC license, but most photographers don’t understand the legal stuff for commercial, so you have no guarantee that the releases are valid etc...
Anyway, I wish them luck, but so far I see no advantage for the buyer and it seems they have to buy with much higher legal risk than anywhere else.
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If I do a search for Germany, the first image that comes up is the Holocaust memorial in Berlin which is a protected under art/copyright and cannot be sold as RF.
Looks like their editors need some training.
Why would they have editors they are not an agency offering thousands of dollars worth of indemnity to buyers, they are just transaction facilitators, that's just one of the sellers problems.
With not checking the legality of files together with all the top-secrecy about payment, it's at best a can of worms and could very easily be a train wreck
Abandon Hope all ye who enter here.
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If I do a search for Germany, the first image that comes up is the Holocaust memorial in Berlin which is a protected under art/copyright and cannot be sold as RF.
Looks like their editors need some training.
Why would they have editors they are not an agency offering thousands of dollars worth of indemnity to buyers, they are just transaction facilitators, that's just one of the sellers problems.
Though pictures are available under the "Wemark Royalty Free licence" what that actually says I can't find and am not planning to buy any of their magic beans to find out.
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If I do a search for Germany, the first image that comes up is the Holocaust memorial in Berlin which is a protected under art/copyright and cannot be sold as RF.
Looks like their editors need some training.
Why would they have editors they are not an agency offering thousands of dollars worth of indemnity to buyers, they are just transaction facilitators, that's just one of the sellers problems.
With not checking the legality of files together with all the top-secrecy about payment, it's at best a can of worms and could very easily be a train wreck
Abandon Hope all ye who enter here.
You won't find any "Train Wrecks" on Wemark just achingly on trend pics of business people on trains zzzzzzz
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If I do a search for Germany, the first image that comes up is the Holocaust memorial in Berlin which is a protected under art/copyright and cannot be sold as RF.
Looks like their editors need some training.
Why would they have editors they are not an agency offering thousands of dollars worth of indemnity to buyers, they are just transaction facilitators, that's just one of the sellers problems.
Though pictures are available under the "Wemark Royalty Free licence" what that actually says I can't find and am not planning to buy any of their magic beans to find out.
As you are the seller not a contributor the details should be in the Terms and Conditions you agreed to when you signed up.
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https://medium.com/wemark-stories/after-an-overwhelming-demand-were-closing-the-first-round-of-deposits-6497ddd63eb8 all pretty meaningless gobbledegook for me but I guess some people believe in their plans...or is it just hype?
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Anyone sold any photos on Wemark ? I see they list 130,000 images.
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Anyone sold any photos on Wemark ? I see they list 130,000 images.
They've not even approved/rejected mine yet :(. Not putting my deposit on a Ferrari anytime soon.
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Thinking about uploading photos to this site. Did anyone had any sale so far?
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If you look at this other thread (started when they said they were now live), another contributor suggested someone post if they got sales - and got their money in a usable currency. There's been nothing so far
https://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/wemark-is-live (https://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/wemark-is-live)!-(get-10-free-images)/msg526846/#msg526846
You'd do better to spend your time uploading to the major sites if you want to earn money, not to new sites with few/no buyers.
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I sold two earlier this month - not sure if I have earned Wemarks or real money to be honest... I'm going to be rich!!
Steve
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Thats two more than me but proves its possible. I believe you get paid in magic beans and have to have a wallet to transfer to. Apparently you don't have to open one straight away.
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not sure if I have earned Wemarks or real money to be honest...
Outstanding professionalism at it's finest.
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I sold two earlier this month - not sure if I have earned Wemarks or real money to be honest... I'm going to be rich!!
Steve
I tried to pay for my coffee with WMK and they laughed.
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So far nothing, but only 300 pics...