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Title: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: borg on October 10, 2011, 07:51
My projection for this month is -40%...
That is result for this first third of this October...

Is it bad just for me or..?
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: lagereek on October 10, 2011, 08:45
Only IS, is badly down, really terrible. All the others. SS, is way up, followed by DT and FT, even some in the middle-tier, are up.
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: gostwyck on October 10, 2011, 09:02
IS and FT are down for me. On target for BME at SS and DT should be well up on 2010 too.
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: Slovenian on October 10, 2011, 09:04
123RF is doing great all of the rest is at least 25% down. Not encouraging at all, especially after a good summer and a great September
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: RT on October 10, 2011, 09:09
Average for me considering the circumstances. By the way I always considered March as the best month of the year.
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: fotografer on October 10, 2011, 09:32
October is usually one of my best months but this year I am down on nearly all sites.
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on October 10, 2011, 11:34
Seriously, I'm disappointed in my IS sales for this time of year.
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: Graffoto on October 10, 2011, 11:41
Geez, Sean.
At least I know I am in good company... but if YOUR sales are off so much, what can the rest of us expect?
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: travelstock on October 10, 2011, 11:47
There was a shake of the best match at the start of the month from what I can see. For the time being I'm on the better side of the current mix (but that will no doubt change any moment) and I'm finally seeing some results from uploading a lot in the last few months.
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: WarrenPrice on October 10, 2011, 11:58
This is good bad news.  My lack of sales was about to send me into panic mode.  Even what seems to be good sales at DT is mostly subscription.  Looking like my new camera for Christmas is in doubt.   :P
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: Slovenian on October 10, 2011, 11:59
Seriously, I'm disappointed in my IS sales for this time of year.


From what I can tell there's no consistency at IS. Graphs are getting more and ridiculous from month to month. Today's sales are decent though

(http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/8246/screenhunter01oct101856.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/840/screenhunter01oct101856.jpg/)
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: michaeldb on October 10, 2011, 12:53
October is usually one of my best months but this year I am down on nearly all sites.
Same here. I was surprised; I expected October to start strong.
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: cobalt on October 10, 2011, 13:00
Bad :-(
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on October 10, 2011, 13:18
When I get up (west coast US) Europe's business day is just about over and the East coast business day is just starting. In the past, I'd see a reasonable collection of sales at IS and lately, it's been much smaller or non-existent. This morning was non-existent. Right now I have one sale at IS - even for a Monday, I can't remember a weekday that bad (even given Canada's on holiday).

By contrast, when I looked at SS's monthly payments log for the last few months, more than half my monthly sales are from non-US sources. I know that there are other parts of the world buying (i.e. it's not just Europe and the US) but I thought from some past analyses the US, Canada and Western Europe formed a huge chunk of microstock business. At any rate, SS seems to be doing better with non-US sales than I realized - good for them.
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: gostwyck on October 10, 2011, 13:28
By contrast, when I looked at SS's monthly payments log for the last few months, more than half my monthly sales are from non-US sources. I know that there are other parts of the world buying (i.e. it's not just Europe and the US) but I thought from some past analyses the US, Canada and Western Europe formed a huge chunk of microstock business. At any rate, SS seems to be doing better with non-US sales than I realized - good for them.

Generally speaking less than 20% of my earnings at SS are from US sources. It depends on your port and subject matter I guess. Most of my sales appear to be from Europe with the rest scattered throughout the world.
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: Xalanx on October 10, 2011, 13:50
Seriously, I'm disappointed in my IS sales for this time of year.


From what I can tell there's no consistency at IS. Graphs are getting more and ridiculous from month to month. Today's sales are decent though

([url]http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/8246/screenhunter01oct101856.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/840/screenhunter01oct101856.jpg/[/url])


is this a real graph or are you giving the finger to IS?  ;D
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on October 10, 2011, 14:00
... At any rate, SS seems to be doing better with non-US sales than I realized - good for them.

Generally speaking less than 20% of my earnings at SS are from US sources. It depends on your port and subject matter I guess. Most of my sales appear to be from Europe with the rest scattered throughout the world.

For September my US sales were 43% of the total, but I probably have a larger US bias in subject matter given where I live :)
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: ShadySue on October 10, 2011, 14:25
After a good-for-me June-Sept (though with some slow spells interspersed), my October has been truly dire. Only 2 dls today so far (20.24 BST). best match seems to have returned my former best sellers to where they were before the recent constant yoyoing, but it's not helping sales.
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: stockmarketer on October 10, 2011, 14:35
Had an amazing run in the last few weeks of Sept and even the first several days of October, thanks in large part to the crazy run of ELs at SS.  (To anyone else who was experiencing these, did they also dry up for you a few days ago?  To me, it suggests there was some kind of campaign that ran from roughly Sept 22 - Oct 7.)

But for the past several days, I'm falling closer to August levels.   
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: Slovenian on October 10, 2011, 15:30
Seriously, I'm disappointed in my IS sales for this time of year.


From what I can tell there's no consistency at IS. Graphs are getting more and ridiculous from month to month. Today's sales are decent though

([url]http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/8246/screenhunter01oct101856.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/840/screenhunter01oct101856.jpg/[/url])


is this a real graph or are you giving the finger to IS?  ;D


The truth comes out eventualy :) (you can explain that to urself however u want/like :)
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: michaeldb on October 10, 2011, 17:05
Had an amazing run in the last few weeks of Sept and even the first several days of October, thanks in large part to the crazy run of ELs at SS.  (To anyone else who was experiencing these, did they also dry up for you a few days ago?  To me, it suggests there was some kind of campaign that ran from roughly Sept 22 - Oct 7.)
Yup. The EL blizzard stopped for me on Oct 5, after getting two ELs on Oct 4.

I did get one today though. Sure hope the ELs are starting up again. I'm amazed that no one has yet figured out exactly what caused this to happen to some of us. Maybe if we knew the cause, we could make it happen again?
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: lisafx on October 10, 2011, 18:14
Yeah, shockingly poor sales for October after an unusually good August and decent September.  Perhaps its because I rely heavily on Istock sales. 

My sales are tanked on IS, FT, and slightly below average at DT.  Only place that's hopping for me is SS. 
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: klsbear on October 10, 2011, 19:39
I saw a big bump at IS last month but it's slowed down again.  SS is on the slow side of normal for me.  Activity at FT is a bit more than usual but it's all subs and as a lowly white level contributor that gets me a whopping $0.18 each - oh, I did have one XS credit sale - an underwhelming $0.14 on that one.  Fast becoming the "why do I bother" site for uploads - at this rate I'll hit the next level and still won't have my first cash-out.  DT, on the otherhand, has been a pleasant suprise this month - several larger-sized credit sales.  All the others are on the slow side of average. 
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: lagereek on October 11, 2011, 00:35
Well the fact that IS,  is down for just about everybody, exclusives alike is obvious. Take a long good look at the site and search. In three searches I have been monitoring 20 images which are on the very first pages. result =  total of 6 dls and thats in four days AND on first pages ( not my images), they were moved way down in preferance to these neewbie images.

IMO, at this moment the site and search looks so incredibly amateurish (content)  that any serious buyer/client, will simply move on to other sites and its pretty obvious which ones.

Further more, if this is supposed to be the happening of the year migration to TS ?  God help us!  what a shamble.
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: nataq on October 11, 2011, 01:03
Same here, very disappointing. Even considering that we already had 4 weekend days.
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on October 11, 2011, 02:00
It looks as if I will be about 20-25% below my BME and about 15% below what I was expecting - that's aggregate earnings.
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: Perry on October 11, 2011, 06:40
Same here, every site is has bad sales. especially IS is very, very weak. If the sales doesn't pick up at IS this will be the worst IS month in years (I'm not kidding)
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: ShadySue on October 11, 2011, 07:49
This is getting beyond a joke. Ended yesterday on 3 dls, and have none today 13:50 15:00 hrs BST. I do my weekly stats on a Sunday. Last week was c30% down on the previous week and that was c12% down on the week before that. Way down on the first ten days of last October, even allowing for the double weekend.

Still, there are certain searches where logged in and logged out on this machine (newest versions of IE, FF and Chrome), I only get a tiny fraction of 'hits' on certain searches when I use the big search box at the top as compared with the little search box in the left hand column. I know this isn't universal - a CN friend gets all the hits when searching these same terms with the top search box (I get all the hits with a 'top box' search on most terms).
Of course, I have no way lf knowing how many others have this problem. I can't believe it's just me, as it's over three different browsers and logged out or logged in.
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: lagereek on October 11, 2011, 08:46
Well its really got to the point where being with IS, simply is not worth it any longer and its going to get worse, this is but a taste of whats to come. SS and DT are still doing very well, even FT, is on the rise.
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: Slovenian on October 11, 2011, 10:00
I've only uploaded a smallish series last month and just got 7 photos accepted everywhere except at IS where they're still pending and I don't ul to FT anymore. Here's the current situation:
-DT is the worst. Just got to 5% of September's earnings with today's last DL. Pathetic. Should be at 40% by now (not 35% or so since October is supposed to be better than Sep and one of the best months if not the best)
-FT is surprisingly reached over 50% of September's earnings. I still don't like 'em though ;)
-IS is just over 20% of September's earnings. Bad.
-SS is just below 25%, which is also pretty bad, especially since it's my biggest earner. ODs are very weak, no ELs and I haven't had a single sale either.
-123RF is the only one showing some promise, it's already over 85% of last month, which was a BME. But that's mostly due to a CEL DL that brought me 43.5$.
-Deposit photo is "in decline", but I'm talking about a couple of dollars less than previous month, not couple hundred
-CS is a pathetic little site not worth mentioning and is just wasting my time. I'm done with them. Shows no promise what so ever
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: Sheridan on October 11, 2011, 10:02
It's exactly one year since the great F5 botch up. Is it no coincidence that large purchasing companies have not renewed?
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: borg on October 11, 2011, 11:10
It is veery weird that "date line" between this and last month ... Practically in the same day, we have ceased sales on all agencies...

We are in matrix, kill me if we are not... ???
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: stockmarketer on October 11, 2011, 13:45
I'm not thrilled with how the first 11 days have gone, but I just looked back at my data for the past few years.  For me, Sept has always been a bit stronger than Oct, so I am not panicking yet.

In terms of monthly sales, the amounts are traditionally pretty similar, with October typically beating Sept by a small margin, probably due to having a larger port.  But in terms of RPI, Sept is always stronger for me.  I keep a chart of this, and the pattern matches exactly to the past few years.   I'm projecting that my Oct 2011 sales will be almost a match to my Sept 2011, but RPI will be down a fair amount.

(I know there are some RPI disbelievers out there, but I find it to be an incredibly useful metric, particularly in cases like this when I'm trying to make sense of month-to-month patterns and project where I'm headed.)
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: WarrenPrice on October 11, 2011, 16:33
Whoa!
Somebody left the gate open.  DT and SS just took off ... RPD has jumped a dollar and still climbing.  :o ;D
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: Microstock Posts on October 12, 2011, 06:29
I had a good August and September and now it does seem quiet, even a couple of no downloads days on ss. But I got one EL on ss this month, which makes up for it.
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: luissantos84 on October 12, 2011, 06:44
looking very good without much uploading, plenty to do..
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: Slovenian on October 19, 2011, 10:35
What the f is going on today?!? ??? I haven't gotten a single DL anywhere in over 5 hours. I always get at least a few during this time of the day. And Wednesday is one of the best days of the week anyway
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: Elenathewise on October 19, 2011, 11:03
My sales are tanked on IS, FT, and slightly below average at DT.  Only place that's hopping for me is SS. 

Same here. Istock and FT are selling quite poorly this months. DT has been slowly declining for years though.
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: Mantis on October 20, 2011, 18:28
Only IS, is badly down, really terrible. All the others. SS, is way up, followed by DT and FT, even some in the middle-tier, are up.

I agree^^  For me IS is way way down.  Usually 12-15 a day, last two weeks has been 3-7 per day.  Did they shake their best match again? Geeze.
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: lisafx on October 21, 2011, 16:29
Today is looking like a holiday or weekend on IS.  Business as usual everywhere else.  Absolutely bizarre!
Title: Re: What a bad start of "the best month" of the year!
Post by: cobalt on October 21, 2011, 16:34
Very slow for me as well.