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Title: When to use these keywords? background, copy space, ...
Post by: kall3bu on September 28, 2020, 09:53
Hi members,

I got told these keywords are very important and should defenitly used if it fits to an image:

background, copy space

But when it really fits?

A background which is indeed an image with just yellow monochrome color - of course!
But what about the images which have on subject in focus:
- with blurred background - I would still agree, if there is enough copy space.
- with not blurred background which could be many green leafs - really? What is here the background? And how it could used for a text?

And what about ´copy space´?
When it should be used? Maybe if there is 30%+ free for text?

And as shown above, ´background´ and ´copy space´ often used together. When it is best to use these keywords and when it is better not to use them.

I am pretty sure that in the beginning sumbitting images to agencies, I overused these keywords.

Until now I am not totally clear in all cases, when it is better to use them and when not.

I saw a list in this forum from most used keywords from buyers and was very surprised that ´copy space´ was even not listed! Strange!

And my last question in case of keywords:
Should we always use the keywords ´horizontal´ and ´vertical´?
Some agencies automaticly paste them, but for sure not all.
Or should I follow the idea from wirestock? They only use ´vertical´if it is a vertical shot. But if it is a horizontal shot, they do not write it in their titles and even not in the keywords.

Thank you in advance for your experiences and advices.
Title: Re: When to use these keywords? background, copy space, ...
Post by: Chichikov on September 28, 2020, 11:27
Background: when your image can be used as background (a texture, a cloudy sky, waves on the water, etc.)
Copy space: when there is enough free room (clean, empty, without attractive elements) to put text, mostly a title or a headline.
Title: Re: When to use these keywords? background, copy space, ...
Post by: kall3bu on September 28, 2020, 11:50
That is a very clear definition.

I came to the same conclusion, but needed a clearification like this to believe that I am right.

Thank you!

I already started to delete that kind of keywords, where I was sure about to overused - not in mind to spam, just wrong idea about the use of them.

Your definition forces me to delete them from some more images now.

If they were wrong used that images went down in the search ranking, right?
After deleting that keywords: That images have a real chance to go up in the ranking or is it to late?
Might be delete the whole image and uploading again with perfect keywords is better than only to change/delete keywords?
Title: Re: When to use these keywords? background, copy space, ...
Post by: steheap on September 28, 2020, 13:26
Apart from Alamy, I'm not aware that a "spam" keyword does anything to your ranking for an image.
Title: Re: When to use these keywords? background, copy space, ...
Post by: kall3bu on September 28, 2020, 14:24
And what about the mystic about titles and ranking?

I just read again on an agency that we should give different titles to similar images, not really sister images, maybe wider view or vertical versus horizontal. And that agency also wrote: Same pictures on many different agencies are okay, but google doesn´t like it, if they have the exactly same title. So it influences the ranking on google.
Title: Re: When to use these keywords? background, copy space, ...
Post by: ShadySue on September 28, 2020, 16:42
And what about the mystic about titles and ranking?

I just read again on an agency that we should give different titles to similar images, not really sister images, maybe wider view or vertical versus horizontal. And that agency also wrote: Same pictures on many different agencies are okay, but google doesn´t like it, if they have the exactly same title. So it influences the ranking on google.
But it's hard to say that there are a lot of stock image buyers who search via google. Possibly a few, probably not many, but that opinion isn't based on any inside knowledge of any agencies.
Title: Re: When to use these keywords? background, copy space, ...
Post by: YadaYadaYada on September 29, 2020, 07:28
Read this thread https://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/adobe-stock-search-webinar/ (https://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/adobe-stock-search-webinar/)