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Title: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: NitorPhoto on March 01, 2010, 05:10
Raise of income from january to february...

Overall income is up by 7,5% (second BME)

IS is up by 4%
SS is up by 23% (BME)
DT is up by 3%
FT is up by 16% (BME)
123RF is up by 46% (BME while last month was much below avarage)

I have two conclusions:
1. The closure of StockXpert is not hurting my income as mush as I thought. It seems buyers have gone to other agencies with no problem.

2. It looks to me they haven't joined to IS as Getty hoped instead they have gone to FTL and SS. Well, my StockXpert images are still not up on ThinkStock so maybe Getty is selling there like crazy while I can't measure it.

What is your experience?
Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: Phil on March 01, 2010, 06:01
I had a surge on IS from the day of StockXpert closing,  lasted about a week, and then went down so i put it down to people using the transferred credits from StockXpert.

even with this, IS ended about average and overall for all sites it was the best month in 18 months even with StockXpert going. FT & Can were BME's, DT about average, maybe a little low and SS was good :)
Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: lisafx on March 01, 2010, 14:45
The only site I saw increase in Feb. Was SS.  It was only by a couple %, but that was after a steady year-long decline there. 

It does make me suspect that SS has picked up a significant number of StockXpert buyers. 

Which would be fine with me :)
Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: microstockphoto.co.uk on March 01, 2010, 14:58
Sales slightly up at all major sites for me in february - so I agree with the OP: StockXpert closure is not so bad in the end
Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: Dook on March 01, 2010, 15:11
It looks like we all have different numbers.
DT 50% up! DT just was not good for me. But now.
SS, IS, 123RF the same.
FT around 15% up.
Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: KB on March 01, 2010, 15:54
Instead of month / month, I'm going to do year / year:
       Feb '09  Feb '10
123     3%        4%
BigStock     4%        3%
DT     16%      18%
FT     10%      13%
IS      32%      36%
SS     24%      25%
StockXpert   11%        0%

Considering the loss from StockXpert, the numbers are remarkably consistent year over year. Unfortunately for me, though, sales dropped 25% and earnings nearly 20%, year / year.  >:(  (My portfolio size increased by over 50% during that time.)
Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: madelaide on March 01, 2010, 17:13
I had significant increases in IS, DT and FT, so I can not have any conclusion.  I think you need to have very steady tendencies to analyze this, and I don't have.
Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: jwohlfeil on March 03, 2010, 10:39
I've seen a significant increase on iStockphoto, February 2010 was up 269% over my biggest month ever.
Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: ShadySue on March 03, 2010, 12:47
I guess you'd also have to wait until the Thinkstock figures are in (mid-March for Feb) to get a fuller picture.
Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: disorderly on March 03, 2010, 13:18
I guess you'd also have to wait until the Thinkstock figures are in (mid-March for Feb) to get a fuller picture.

This is news to me.  Can you provide a reference, or are you assuming a monthly report?
Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: louoates on March 03, 2010, 14:55
I can't tell where if anywhere my StockXpert customers went.

I also don't know where to look to see if my balance there went to IS. Anyone know where to look? I haven't received any info from StockXpert.
Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: nruboc on March 03, 2010, 15:10
I've seen a significant increase on iStockphoto, February 2010 was up 269% over my biggest month ever.

How big is your portfolio, and how many total approx sales?
Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: ShadySue on March 03, 2010, 18:11
I guess you'd also have to wait until the Thinkstock figures are in (mid-March for Feb) to get a fuller picture.


This is news to me.  Can you provide a reference, or are you assuming a monthly report?


There is a monthly report, which is around the middle of the following month.
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=183461&page=1 (http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=183461&page=1)
Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: RacePhoto on March 07, 2010, 14:07
I can't tell where if anywhere my StockXpert customers went.

I also don't know where to look to see if my balance there went to IS. Anyone know where to look? I haven't received any info from StockXpert.

Without a link, they said "It tends to happen in the first couple of weeks of the next month."

I'll be waiting to see if anything happened in Feb. but no optimistic expectations.

As for StockXpert going on two months of nothing because they haven't reached whatever phase it needs to be, before something moves there. :(

Pure speculation, but my SS downloads double the last two months since StockXpert went to sleep. This month SS is already ahead of the total for most months in 2009. But just a limited personal observation. I could have uploaded three magic files that are extra attractive to buyers.

I don't think people will buy things that they can't see or find on ThinkStock. ;)
Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: mwp1969 on April 11, 2010, 21:01
I can't tell where if anywhere my StockXpert customers went.



I had several BMEs in March from sites with between 250-1500 images on them. I had over 500 images on StockXpert before it shut down ...

-Mark
http://markwpayne.wordpress.com (http://markwpayne.wordpress.com)
 
Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: cidepix on April 12, 2010, 09:46
BME at fotolia by %20,
almost BME at dreamstime,
BME at BigStock by %200

This can't be coincidence. It is great for us, bad for getty. Glad it turned out the way it did.

This is what happens when you close down StockXpert  :D
Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: bad to the bone on April 12, 2010, 19:24
still nothing at Stockexpert/thinkstock. BME at FT/SS/IST in March. DRE anymore went down!.
Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: michaeldb on April 12, 2010, 22:19
If my stats are any indication, DT got most of the StockXpert customers.
Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: fotografer on April 13, 2010, 03:15
Looks like mine went to Dreamstime and Fotolia.  Both had BMEs by a large amount over previous BME.
Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: icefront on April 14, 2010, 15:55
My buyers were spreading over the agencies but they didn't took the StockXpert's best match with them. These days I deleted my port @ StockXpert and I was just shocked about which images of mine had the most sales. At the other agencies (probably where StockXpert buyers landed), some of my best sellers at StockXpert, are not downloaded even once.
This is my loss, although my income wasn't altered in the last months.
Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: ap on April 14, 2010, 18:01
i just had my bde at IS and the trend has been way above average since StockXpert's demise. so, i think it's kind of ironic that the buyers have gone to IS and  thinkstock (or maybe this was their devious plan all along).

i have opted some of my nonselling images to ts, but i'm actually getting credit sales for these at is, so i had to quickly opt out. i'm also independent and am maybe benefiting from the lower price points. who knows?  ::)
Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: sharpshot on April 15, 2010, 02:50
BME at fotolia by %20,
almost BME at dreamstime,
BME at BigStock by %200

This can't be coincidence. It is great for us, bad for getty. Glad it turned out the way it did.

This is what happens when you close down StockXpert  :D
I think it could be coincidence because March has been my best month of the year since I started doing this.  Seeing people get BME's in March isn't surprising, it happens every year.  StockXpert closing has probably boosted the other sites a bit but I really don't know how we can tell if it is that or seasonal variation.
Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: lisafx on April 15, 2010, 17:47
i just had my bde at IS and the trend has been way above average since StockXpert's demise. so, i think it's kind of ironic that the buyers have gone to IS and  thinkstock (or maybe this was their devious plan all along).

i have opted some of my nonselling images to ts, but i'm actually getting credit sales for these at is, so i had to quickly opt out. i'm also independent and am maybe benefiting from the lower price points. who knows?  ::)

Wow, your experience it completely different to mine.  I have been struggling all month at IS.  Sales are down 20-30% for me.

The lower price points for independent work aren't going to be a lot of help if the images can't be found under all the Vetta and Exclusive +. 

I don't know for sure where my StockXpert sales have gone.  No other sites are showing a corresponding rise to account for it.  So basically it's just money lost. :(
Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: madelaide on April 15, 2010, 17:54
For me, increases happened in FT in BigStock.  Earnings decreased at IS and DT in March, and so far April looks the same.
Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: fotografer on April 16, 2010, 03:20
I'm also about 20% down this month which I blamed on the Easter holidays but yesterday my sales went down by about 50% on normal.  I hope that it was just a one off and not a result of us being pushed further back in the search because of the exclusive + images.

  I have been struggling all month at IS.  Sales are down 20-30% for me.


Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: gostwyck on April 16, 2010, 06:28
I'm also about 20% down this month which I blamed on the Easter holidays but yesterday my sales went down by about 50% on normal.  I hope that it was just a one off and not a result of us being pushed further back in the search because of the exclusive + images.

I'm down everywhere this month so far but mainly because of the Easter holiday. Sales have picked up again nicely now.

Sales at IS are still in the normal proportion to sales elsewhere, currently at 33% of my total. Yesterday was my highest earning day of the month and the second highest for downloads. No obvious effect from either the downtime or a change to the best match.
Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: fotografer on April 16, 2010, 06:30
So you stole all my dls yesterday ;)
I'm also about 20% down this month which I blamed on the Easter holidays but yesterday my sales went down by about 50% on normal.  I hope that it was just a one off and not a result of us being pushed further back in the search because of the exclusive + images.

I'm down everywhere this month so far but mainly because of the Easter holiday. Sales have picked up again nicely now.

Sales at IS are still in the normal proportion to sales elsewhere, currently at 33% of my total. Yesterday was my highest earning day of the month and the second highest for downloads. No obvious effect from either the downtime or a change to the best match.
Title: Re: Where buyers have gone from StockXpert? (Statistics)
Post by: gostwyck on April 16, 2010, 06:52
So you stole all my dls yesterday ;)

I guess so! Must admit I was surprised at the eventual outcome as there seemed to be several hours during the day when sales seemed painfully slow.