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Tror

« on: September 16, 2016, 09:07 »
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Hey guys...just curious and for fun: which site would you love to see disappear? Kick out of the market if you could?

Do you think the disappearance of one company could change the market environment? Would you feel personal satisfaction if one would disappear?





« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2016, 09:14 »
+6
It doesn't really matter. Most of them are the same or interchangeable now.

Rose Tinted Glasses

« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2016, 09:21 »
+19
Any agency that was founded solely on subscription sales and currently advertises on sponsors third party sites that promote themselves as a source for free photography.
« Last Edit: September 16, 2016, 09:55 by Rose Tinted Glasses »

Shelma1

  • stockcoalition.org
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2016, 09:45 »
+22
Any agency that offers independent image creators a 15% royalty and is quickly dying anyway.

« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2016, 09:45 »
+11
I'd love to see SS crash and burn.

« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2016, 10:09 »
+8
SS

« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2016, 10:12 »
+14
Any agency that cuts commissions while promising more sales and then doesn't live up to its promise.

« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2016, 10:16 »
+6
Any agancy whose way of conducting business means crashing and burning for the contributers

SpaceStockFootage

  • Space, Sci-Fi and Astronomy Related Stock Footage

« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2016, 23:00 »
+17
iStock

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2016, 23:25 »
+13
SS, but in an ideal world, all who sell cheap subs and/or pay less than 50%.

« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2016, 00:22 »
+1
SS, but in an ideal world, all who sell cheap subs and/or pay less than 50%.

Agree

Chichikov

« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2016, 01:39 »
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Every crook agencies
(Somebody will say me it was faster to write "All")

Justanotherphotographer

« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2016, 02:04 »
+10
Istock and thinkstock.
Bigstock.
Depositphotos.

Why ss when they pay a bigger percentage than istock and more for sub sales than thinkstock? Makes no sense to me.

Eta. Of course not including freepik and the like that I don't consider legitimate agencies.

« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2016, 02:26 »
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"Do you think the disappearance of one company could change the market environment?" No the market environment determines  the success or otherwise of the agencies not vice versa.  Would you feel personal satisfaction if one would disappear? Only Crestock because of their insulting rejections.

dpimborough

« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2016, 03:02 »
+9
All of them they are all carpet baggers and snake oil salesmen

But the worst? Probably Getty/iStock for their awful royalties, controlled vocabulary wretched contributor assistance and the arrogance of assuming they are in the dairy business  ;)

Except Alamy which at least offers decent contributor service and a fair split on royalties.

gyllens

« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2016, 03:27 »
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I dont care really but if I had to pick one model that I would like gone its the Distributors. They take their cut regardless of agency model. They just dump tens of thousands of files everywhere and scoup their percentages.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2016, 03:31 »
+3
Why ss when they pay a bigger percentage than istock and more for sub sales than thinkstock? Makes no sense to me.
They have held prices down to a ridiculous level for far too long.
(I accept I'm in the minority with this view.)


« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2016, 03:42 »
+10
iStock for sure.

« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2016, 04:19 »
+11
iStock, of course! 16% and $0.19 commissions? And $5-$9 for HD clips? Common!
I wish to see their customers redistributed between better paying agencies.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2016, 04:22 by Zero Talent »

Justanotherphotographer

« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2016, 04:54 »
+6
Why ss when they pay a bigger percentage than istock and more for sub sales than thinkstock? Makes no sense to me.
They have held prices down to a ridiculous level for far too long.
(I accept I'm in the minority with this view.)

Honestly I don't think anyone has done more to lower prices and keep them down than Getty/ IStock.

They left the door open to start with by squeezing contributors till the pips squeak in terms of rates then when they jumped into subs with both feet again paid out the very minimum.

I think I should have phrased it "why Shutterstock OVER IStock" as I can see where you're coming from with SS being the original subs site.  If you accept subs as now a given, then SS treats contributors much better than IS, and even given the current spate of F-ups has been much more competent at running their business.

« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2016, 08:49 »
+2
Why ss when they pay a bigger percentage than istock and more for sub sales than thinkstock? Makes no sense to me.
They have held prices down to a ridiculous level for far too long.
(I accept I'm in the minority with this view.)

Honestly I don't think anyone has done more to lower prices and keep them down than Getty/ IStock.

They left the door open to start with by squeezing contributors till the pips squeak in terms of rates then when they jumped into subs with both feet again paid out the very minimum.

I think I should have phrased it "why Shutterstock OVER IStock" as I can see where you're coming from with SS being the original subs site.  If you accept subs as now a given, then SS treats contributors much better than IS, and even given the current spate of F-ups has been much more competent at running their business.

They could be the next to close their doors if the two law suits against them are lost.  Could be a lot closer that we think.  Even if they settle, it would probably be for a lot of money and would also further damage their "brand" in the eyes of their customers.

« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2016, 09:39 »
+4
Why ss when they pay a bigger percentage than istock and more for sub sales than thinkstock? Makes no sense to me.
They have held prices down to a ridiculous level for far too long.
(I accept I'm in the minority with this view.)

I don't think we're in the minority. SS has gained control of the market by driving prices down to the floor and below.  They're the big force behind subscriptions. 

Rose Tinted Glasses

« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2016, 11:02 »
+5


I don't think we're in the minority. SS has gained control of the market by driving prices down to the floor and below.  They're the big force behind subscriptions.
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Great Greedy strategy for the shareholders and suicidal for the contributors. What an evil agency strategy in every way for the industry. It simply is not sustainable to produce work at this royalty price point for the long term.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2016, 11:04 by Rose Tinted Glasses »

« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2016, 12:40 »
+1
SS sales won't go back to the back old days and people need to accept that. It's still a great agency where the contributors can thrive. I like SS because it forces people to be at their best to really succeed. The only reason why anyone should want an agency to fail is when they intentionally harm contributors and buyers like iStock/Getty or agencies that try to be socialist like DT. Those buyers would move over to other agencies and it'll benefit everyone.

Having agency competition is good for the industry and it's good for contributors. That's why we need agencies like SS, FT, Envato and 123RF to stay afloat.

Justanotherphotographer

« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2016, 12:53 »
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DT isn't trying to be socialist. In fact it is harder to succeed there than at any of the other top sites. If anything pricing images by sales is less socialist than the others and reflects market forces more closely.

They just market themselves as a "community"


 

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