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« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2019, 05:14 »
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So what is your percentage at the firms you provide our images at? Because if i'm making 50% on selling the image by my self on alamy, will you guys get 50/40 of my image and then give me 85% of that? or you guys got a better deal?

Im actually more interested to hear if you guys have other plans with the whole block-chain concept. I mean full transparency, the copyright management and being able to see who bought what interests me


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« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2020, 07:11 »
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« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2020, 07:55 »
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If they add a Black Box style revenue share system for collaborators I would set up some shoots and join.  Beyond that I prefer to create my own meta data.  There are also two agencies on their list I do not want to upload to.  Is there an per agency opt out?

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« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2020, 08:40 »
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If they add a Black Box style revenue share system for collaborators I would set up some shoots and join.  Beyond that I prefer to create my own meta data.  There are also two agencies on their list I do not want to upload to.  Is there an per agency opt out?

Yes, it's easily possible to opt out of one or more of the agencies they have listed by ticking a box.

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« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2020, 09:09 »
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If they add a Black Box style revenue share system for collaborators I would set up some shoots and join.  Beyond that I prefer to create my own meta data.  There are also two agencies on their list I do not want to upload to.  Is there an per agency opt out?

One of the first questions I was asking myself. I went to the site and the graphic on the right was showing, Easy Submit 

https://wirestock.io?wvideo=k1ko6tahh0#howitworks

Selecting Agencies. Which I'm guessing instead of Opt Out, it works that we can decide where each upload will go. Also they show Editorial but then say No Editorial. I think that means, no Dateline Editorial but some other kind? Like unreleased, not news? Not very clear to me.

Also looking closer it has upload from computer but also Dropbox and Google Drive. Is there still a Google Drive? Oh hey, look at that, I have a 15gb Google Drive account, with some files. I wonder how I did that? I use Google Images... OK back on topic.  ;)

TOS which they call TOU  https://wirestock.io/terms_of_use

"By selecting agencies for your content in the submission process, you grant Wirestock an exclusive right to license and and distribute your content on the selected agencies and marketplaces on your behalf from our name which means you are not allowed to license the same content on the same agencies. "

I read selecting agencies to answer your question. Also answered one of mine = exclusive content.

So the next is 85% of what? I don't mind giving them 15% for distribution and managing, is this all going to be subs?

Someone else said they thought the agency route would get a higher image rank, better position, than individuals. I've seen nothing to support that, as there are many agency accounts, and all of them couldn't have "better rank", could they?  :)

Looks early on and hopeful?  You can view them on SS if you want.

Wirestock portfolio:  https://www.shutterstock.com/g/wirestock+inc

28,551 stock photos, vectors, and illustrations are available royalty-free.


« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2020, 09:38 »
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Alex did a good work on reviewing them, although i missed if also istock and pond5 submission is available (seem as options in submiting panel?) In general i am quite suspicious with whatever is pushed through youtubers: BB and wirestock cover "major" agencies without even dealing ...with agencies. On the other hand i believe they are in a good selling path encouraging commercial vs editorial submissions. As for "one gate to all" not sure if this is good for "us".

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« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2020, 13:47 »
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Alex did a good work on reviewing them, although i missed if also istock and pond5 submission is available (seem as options in submiting panel?) In general i am quite suspicious with whatever is pushed through youtubers: BB and wirestock cover "major" agencies without even dealing ...with agencies. On the other hand i believe they are in a good selling path encouraging commercial vs editorial submissions. As for "one gate to all" not sure if this is good for "us".

While this is interesting reading, I'm not a member. I may consider some files, just to see what happens to them.

Currently, we support the following agencies: "Shutterstock, Adobe Stock, iStock/Getty, Depositphotos, Alamy, Dreamstime and Pond5."

That pretty well covers the places that are on top.

Do those agencies support Wirestock, how many images do they take? 28,000 on SS isn't a huge number?

Going back to the beginning, and making up a hypothetical RPD of 50 at some site. That would become 42 or easier, every dollar someone makes is now $.85 because of the file management, uploading and keep in mind, everything must be exclusive.

How many people remember Deposit starting out upbeat, paying people simply for uploading. Promises of good percentages. Then when they had the collection they wanted and the web presence, drop, drop, drop. Oh they aren't alone, pretty much every agency has been finding ways to cut the expenses of shared revenue. Making levels disappear, changing quotas, lowering commissions, offering different licensing to customers that gets around our higher price downloads. Lower price image packs might seem like a sale, but then the agency makes more sales and we get less in real dollars of a lower number.

What's to say that in a year or two, the 15% becomes "unsustainable" and they change to 25%. fee? The collection is filled, the fish are on the hook, then it's back to leaving and pulling the plug, plus everything was exclusive.

My first activity if I ever upload anything to WS will be to make a folder for those files, so if they change rates, or fail, I have a way of finding everything exclusive and reclaiming it for my own use.

At least WS isn't a race to the bottom, cutting prices to try to get more customers. Eventually that's going to mean many more agency closings when it isn't profitable to stay open. Of course paying us peanuts and 15% is why so many can afford to stay in business. We get the leftovers and scraps, they get the meat.

Maybe someone who has joined will come around and tell us their experience?  8)

« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2020, 04:36 »
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My first activity if I ever upload anything to WS will be to make a folder for those files, so if they change rates, or fail, I have a way of finding everything exclusive and reclaiming it for my own use.


Exactly what I did yesterday, before opening an account and uploading   ;)

Now we wait n see !!   8)

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« Reply #33 on: January 10, 2020, 05:31 »
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As for me, i've mastered my editing & uploading process,  so i don't need such services anymore.
Scripts, and xpiks do the job pretty fast. Simple as that.

And it is not a big deal if you uploading to 3-4 stocks. Ss, as, is and super secret one:)
« Last Edit: January 10, 2020, 05:40 by spacedrone808 »

« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2020, 14:50 »
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And it is not a big deal if you uploading to 3-4 stocks. Ss, as, is and super secret one:)

Hey, no secrets here! Reveal that highly profitable site immediately or...  ;D


 

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