Author Topic: Would something like this help against image piracy? (Read 7842 times)

Poncke · « **on:** September 19, 2012, 01:35 »

I dont know if this has been discussed but would a campaign like this help against image piracy?


Piracy it's a crime

I dont know who initiated that campaign, but I think it was funded and created by the governments. I know that advert was aired in the Netherlands and the UK. And probably in more European countries like Germany etc.

If photographers would get together and create a similar advert about stealing images on the internet that would be aired in America, Europe, Africa and Asia, subsidised by the governments, would that help our case? Would it be feasible? Affordable?

Perry · « **Reply #1 on:** September 19, 2012, 03:37 »

Those ads on DVDs are really, really annoying. It's almost like it would be better to get a pirate version without those annoyances.

Dantheman · « **Reply #2 on:** September 19, 2012, 03:58 »

I think it would be a really good idea. The main problem seems to be that people are not even aware that tehy are violating copyrights. Of course those people who pirate all their stuff, will keep on pirating.

But some people steal images without even knowing and exactly these people might learn something from a video like this and start buying their images. For example a mom who made a flyer with an image from google and thought it might be legal etc.

heywoody · « **Reply #3 on:** September 19, 2012, 05:35 »

Quote from: Perry on September 19, 2012, 03:37

Those ads on DVDs are really, really annoying. It's almost like it would be better to get a pirate version without those annoyances.

Yeah and there is even a language selection to get the propaganda in your own language. If it's on the internet it will get nicked and, whatever we think, that ain't gonna stop.

Digital66 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 19, 2012, 08:30 »

This is an old, horrible, and annoying ad. I've seen it in DVD's and movie theatres.

click_click · « **Reply #5 on:** September 19, 2012, 11:04 »

LOL - so this is the "original" - I only knew about the parody of it from IT Crowd:


The IT Crowd - Series 2 - Episode 3: Piracy warning

It is somewhat ridiculous. First of all those trailers are extremely annoying.

People don't buy the movies because they want to support the movie industry. It's because they want to own a copy so they can watch it anytime they feel like it.

As it also is shown in the parody, the way they make it sound it is a crime like stealing someone's handbag or car which is bullocks. People use Tivos and DVRs every single day and no one screams - copyright infringement.

The problem is the unlicensed distribution of intellectual property not Tina and her girlfriend Michelle recording a Justin Bieber concert on their DVR.

I don't give a hoot if some kids download my images "illegally" to use them on their computer screen as wallpapers.

I have a problem with web sites distributing them and profiting off of it through traffic and ads.

I have a problem with companies selling products with my images on them without purchasing an EL.

I have a problem with companies promoting their products and services using my images without licensing them.

Poncke · « **Reply #6 on:** September 19, 2012, 12:08 »

Its not about that video being annoying, its about the idea of educating people about copyright.

I think loads of people do not know if they take a photo, they are violating copyright, let alone them thinking they are stealing. If you run a world wide educational add telling people that photos are IP and should be bought like Movies and Music, you might get more people to buy in.

fujiko · « **Reply #7 on:** September 19, 2012, 12:24 »

If you want to educate people about copyright, you must run the ad directly on sites visited by people that don't know about copyright or are infringing it. You need to run the ad on pirate sites.

This DVD campaign made just the opposite, trying to educate people who were already buying the content. One of the most annoying campaigns ever, being forced down the throats of the wrong people.

Poncke · « **Reply #8 on:** September 19, 2012, 12:47 »

No, the people pirating the stuff, know they are wrong. Not everyone watching TV is paying for photos. There are million of normal people just not knowing they need to pay for a photo. Education needs to start somewhere.

Perry · « **Reply #9 on:** September 19, 2012, 12:49 »

+1 to everything click_click said above.

Quote from: Poncke on September 19, 2012, 12:08

Its not about that video being annoying, its about the idea of educating people about copyright.

"Would something like this help against image piracy?" and the answer is NO, because it's annoying!

What I would like to have is to have a lesson in school about intellectual property and copyrights (preferably a few lessons, for different age kids).

pancaketom · « **Reply #10 on:** September 19, 2012, 13:23 »

I liked some comedian's response to that - something like "I went to a movie and they had a trailer all about how getting movies from the internet for free was stealing. I was like "Whoa - you can get movies from the internet for free?""

I think that if blog sites (like blogspot) etc. at least mentioned what you can and can't legally do with images from the internet that might be more useful. Some people genuinely don't know, but it is the ones that know and profit from the theft that I am more worried about. - as click click said above.

Poncke · « **Reply #11 on:** September 19, 2012, 14:17 »

Quote from: Perry on September 19, 2012, 12:49

+1 to everything click_click said above.

Quote from: Poncke on September 19, 2012, 12:08
Its not about that video being annoying, its about the idea of educating people about copyright.

"Would something like this help against image piracy?" and the answer is NO, because it's annoying!

What I would like to have is to have a lesson in school about intellectual property and copyrights (preferably a few lessons, for different age kids).

Ok, forget the annoying part of the video. It was just to illustrate the idea of campaigning and creating awareness. Doesnt matter what form it is in.

tab62 · « **Reply #12 on:** September 19, 2012, 15:30 »

Shutting down the internet would be a good start

fujiko · « **Reply #13 on:** September 19, 2012, 15:33 »

Quote from: Poncke on September 19, 2012, 12:47

No, the people pirating the stuff, know they are wrong. Not everyone watching TV is paying for photos. There are million of normal people just not knowing they need to pay for a photo. Education needs to start somewhere.

Wrong and right are subjective. I have never meet anyone that downloads content and believes he is wrong. I have meet at least one teacher that told the students that they could use Google Image Search to find content and use it without trouble. She was pretty ashamed when I pointed her out to the small notice stating that the image could have copyright (google could use a bigger copyright notice). She was trying to do the right thing and teach the students to do the same, she just didn't know and was thankful to me for pointing her mistake. Then there are many that do it willingly because they believe they have the right to do it as if content creators owe them something or because they believe content wants to be free and shared and they believe it's the right thing. Many believe that everything on internet is free and it's right to download. Some want to profit from the work of others without paying and believe it's right. Others just don't care much.

I believe that no one does anything knowing that it is wrong. People just rationalizes it in a way to make it right and it's this rationalization the one you have to defeat in an awareness campaign. I say this because it's easy to convince anyone to stop doing something he didn't know is wrong, but it's not easy to convince anyone to stop doing something he believes is right.

The school is a good place to start education.

Poncke · « **Reply #14 on:** September 19, 2012, 15:43 »

Just because you never met one, doesnt mean they dont exist. Of course loads of people know they are wrong. And of course there are people that just dont know. And thats the group that needs educating

fujiko · « **Reply #15 on:** September 19, 2012, 16:08 »

Rationalization is the key, it does magic turning wrong into right. Look around, everyone rationalizes everything.

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