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« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2008, 15:25 »
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He also sells from a street market in London ...

You can also see and purchase a selection of our work on Saturdays and Sundays at our stall in the Northcote Road market, London SW11, nearest BR Clapham Junction, nearest tube Clapham South. The stall is between Bennerley and Mallinson Road by The Lola Spanish restaurant.

Anybody live in the area? Check out what ripped-off stuff he's selling from his stall, too.

Maybe even go down there mob-handed and do him over   ;)  Just joking (or was I?)


« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2008, 15:53 »
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If he is selling other people photos as his own there must be legal action that can be taken on that front?

 

suwanneeredhead

  • O.I.D. Sufferer (Obsessive Illustration Disorder)
« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2008, 16:19 »
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If he is selling other people photos as his own there must be legal action that can be taken on that front?

Oh now that is funny!   ;D

Do you honestly believe you will receive any damages by taking legal action against someone like that? The only time its worth doing is when you are being ripped off for a very substantial sum of money... what with the legal fees and costs, and the very real impossibility of collecting your damages!

I think Vika's approach is much better... just let them know you're watching them and know what they're doing, and it's likely that they will cease and desist without all that legal stuff.

Go TinEye!

Thanks for making my day with that funny comment!

« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2008, 16:29 »
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Do you watch the news? You can get money from anyone for anything. Someone just sued Volvo because they made the pedals to small for his feet in his new car.

But I was thinking criminal charges. Don't people who sell fraudulent paintings get thrown in jail?

 

suwanneeredhead

  • O.I.D. Sufferer (Obsessive Illustration Disorder)
« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2008, 17:07 »
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Yes theoretically people can get thrown in jail for selling fraudulent paintings... (IF they are caught)... but that's on a totally different scale than what we're talking about here... forging a painting is a much higher crime given the value of the painting... someone stealing digital files and representing them as their own, when the original artist cannot prove that this file is worth a lot of money, is just not worth going after!

You can be a pain in the ass and chase this person around forever, but to me its kind of a "choose your battles" situation... if you did not lose a whole boatload of money over the deal, then its not worth pursuing unless you have a bottomless financial supply and a very healthy sense of revenge!

Reality check!

bittersweet

« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2008, 18:07 »
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As Lisa mentioned, there was an incident similar to this at istock. A photographer was using istock images on his website. He did not state that he took them, but obviously it was implied because they were photographs on a photographer's website. They were on the front page of the site, much like the example you've posted here. Because they did not expressly claim that they were their own, but only used them to design a website (perfectly allowable usage under a royalty-free license), they were NOT in violation of the TOS. An admin came right out and stated as much--that while it was arguably misleading, there was no clear violation.

In this instance, the person is using your photo on an entry page. Directly below the images, there is a text link that reads "recent photo shoots", implying that the thumbnails above are what you will see if you click that link. However, when you go to these gallery pages, they are his own work (presumably). I would not call the gallery pages those with the links, but those pages to which the links lead. (Granted I did not explore the entire web site so maybe there is another more blatant declaration).
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« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2008, 18:17 »
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On this page: http://www.photoarte.co.uk/bookimages.php?page=02

he writes:

 We can help you realise your commercial photography requirements
Here are some examples of our work

He obviously claims these photos as his own work.

« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2008, 18:37 »
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"hey,
I'm the model from one of the pictures on your site (http://www.photoarte.co.uk/site_images/art.jpg ), I haven't being paid  yet for my modelling services and I was wondering if I can send the billing to the photographer's address stated on your site.
thank you very much in advanced, hoping to hear from you soon,
regards,
Victoria "


Dear Victoria,
You are a lovely model. You should receive my check in the mail sometime in the future for modeling services, after I receive your bill.
I hope is all is well with you. Please be patient while waiting for your payment, as I am in a financial bind right now. However payment
will be forthcoming I assure you.
Sincerly yours,

Ima Liar



rinderart

« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2008, 19:54 »
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I sent the guy a nice little rinder style letter.

« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2008, 22:35 »
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A certain Person's Style letter

Dear Mr. PhotoThief,
I am appalled at your blatant lack of respect in your selection of my photographer friend Victoria's snapshots.
Have you no sense of fairness, or or even a good eye when it comes to choosing good quality photographs?
You demonstrate your lack of education, knowledge, and ability, as a photographer. 

Sir you obviously don't know who I am! I am a PROFESSIONAL photographer, who has graduated from a million
different schools, have a bazillion certifications, write for newspapers, magazines, and was a consultant to Ansel Adams.
I also teach and take people on seminarial group picnic tours throughout the region, wandering  aimlessly looking for objects
to shoot.

In your selection of stealing photos from Victoria portfolio over mine, you demonstrate inability to recognize my greatness.
Perhaps you are not as adept at this profession as I am. You need to educate yourself, and learn to recognize  the quality of my work.


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suwanneeredhead

  • O.I.D. Sufferer (Obsessive Illustration Disorder)
« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2008, 22:38 »
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OMG Miz that is over the top. You are always good for a laugh.

« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2008, 23:59 »
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He must have quite a team there. His "examples of out commercial photography work" include one of istock's most popular best four downloads (the one with the woman with laptop hands raised), rzdeb's chairs (which look like a 3D render to me). The shopping trolley in a car is a 3D render done by Mark Evans who is an istock admin...

« Reply #37 on: May 18, 2008, 01:18 »
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ok, finnish evening and british evening are over now for already more than 10 hrs, my mug is still there! I really don't want to belive that that person lied to me

« Reply #38 on: May 18, 2008, 04:08 »
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It seems like they have taken the appropriate action now.

Contakt

    This user is banned.
« Reply #39 on: May 18, 2008, 04:50 »
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ok, finnish evening and british evening are over now for already more than 10 hrs, my mug is still there! I really don't want to belive that that person lied to me


Unfortunately your photo is still sitting on the server. All this neanderthal did was delete the index.html page after you lot nuked him with emails.

Talk about solidarity with one of our own at its best.

Anywhooo, I've gone one further than that, I've got a UK journalist picking up on this story and if the little creep is passing off stuff as his own down the local market, she'll find him.

Right now this thieving little wretch is about as comfortable as a lame Turkey sat on a packet of paxo listening to Christmas carols.
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« Reply #40 on: May 18, 2008, 05:09 »
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ok, finnish evening and british evening are over now for already more than 10 hrs, my mug is still there! I really don't want to belive that that person lied to me


Unfortunately your photo is still sitting on the server. All this neanderthal did was delete the index.html page after you lot nuked him with emails.

Talk about solidarity with one of our own at its best.



Anywhooo, I've gone one further than that, I've got a UK journalist picking up on this story and if the little creep is passing off stuff as his own down the local market, she'll find him.

Right now this thieving little wretch is about as comfortable as a lame Turkey sat on a packet of paxo listening to Christmas carols.

sweet.
Now I wonder why he used exactly that image to represent his photographer's skills, the lighting isn't a brainer, the composition is simple, it's a good concept shot but even I don't show it in my portfolio. I shot it with a ceiling bouced flash.

« Reply #41 on: May 18, 2008, 06:10 »
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Unrelated, but I have just seen several of your self-portraits showcased in a UK monthly photo magazine. All legitimate, but they may confuse some of the culprits clients


« Reply #42 on: May 18, 2008, 06:15 »
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Unrelated, but I have just seen several of your self-portraits showcased in a UK monthly photo magazine. All legitimate, but they may confuse some of the culprits ‘clients’

you mean that they will go get images straight from my site? well that's the risk of having images on internet I guess.

« Reply #43 on: May 18, 2008, 06:26 »
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No, I mean if the clients of photoarte see that you are the author they may also ask questions of photoarte.

« Reply #44 on: May 18, 2008, 08:25 »
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No, I mean if the clients of photoarte see that you are the author they may also ask questions of photoarte.

i hope they do!!!!

« Reply #45 on: May 18, 2008, 13:26 »
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Proper action must have been taken because I have clicked on every one of the links in this topic and I get a 404 error.

« Reply #46 on: May 18, 2008, 14:41 »
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the site is down...

but if i was you i will be very happy,

you just find someone to pay for all the work you've done for microstock  ;)

I would be very happy to find someone stealing  my work....

he he he ....

my lawyer would be happy too....

Go get him, as i see the name is (mr)??? Mark Anderson

 
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« Reply #47 on: May 18, 2008, 14:46 »
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Anywhooo, I've gone one further than that, I've got a UK journalist picking up on this story and if the little creep is passing off stuff as his own down the local market, she'll find him.


Great! The more we can make this b****d squirm the better.

« Reply #48 on: May 18, 2008, 15:08 »
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I've just discovered, this guy has another site, too. The address is here (same telephone number as the previous one, so definitely the same guy).

http://www.photos4rent.co.uk/index.html

Check this one as well. He seems to rent out photographs here. How many of them are stolen, too.

« Reply #49 on: May 18, 2008, 15:21 »
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The image on the top left of photo4rent was taken from 123rf.com : http://www.123rf.com/photo_2461308.html

anyone knows the real owner ?



 

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