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« on: March 05, 2009, 05:40 »
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Do you remember my image of a dog and a cat making love?



This image was accepted by some agencies, and rejected from some other agencies. The lighting is poor...it was very bright day, and snow reflects the light, and dog was black....so, honestly, the technical quality of the photo is....poor. But again, I think this image has strong concept. Is there better example of love between creatures that should hate each other? By my opinion this is a good example of power of love...or passion, or what ever. Natural enemies making love..
But again, this image was rejected mostly because of low commercial value.

Please tell me your opinion. Do you think reviewers are actually disgusted by the scene, or maybe this image is so unusual and rare, so reviewers can't decide what to do and choose to reject it, or you also think this image doesn't have commercial value.
I agree the composition is not very good, but it lasted only for a second, and I couldn't really think about the angle ;D

I appreciate your opinion :)



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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2009, 06:07 »
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I am disgusted by the scene.

That said, I think some clever photoshopping could fix your blue shadows and your not so white snow.

As for commercial value, it depends on customers. I am doing catalogue shots for 10 Euros per photo. Thing is I take many photos per day. At the end of the day it makes hundreds of Euros. I currently don't make that with silly-stock. :-)

« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2009, 06:19 »
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Ok, thank you :)

« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2009, 08:34 »
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Technical quality aside, the photo is certainly interesting - but it can only be because I am interested in ethology.
As for the commercial value - where exactly do you think it can be used? I am afraid it would be banned from most magazines, brochures, leaflets etc. because of the clear sexual undertone (children under ... of age might see it and... you know - that kind of nonsense). So - I do not think the commercial value would be so great. But a few (or a lot, you never know...) people might buy it just out of curiosity... Have you ever sold it on the sites where it was accepted?

« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2009, 08:57 »
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There are some magazines full of humorous and weird photos like this one. In my country one example of that kind of magazine is magazine "Zoom". It's full of pictures like this one and every image has a funny comment.
But I guess, there aren't too many magazines like this one.
I had requests from my friends to send them this image as well :D

I just upload it, so I didn't have any downloads of this, on any other image from this batch.

« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2009, 09:10 »
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Sorry, I totally forgot about humorous magazines (because I am said not to have any sense of humour probably...) - you might be right, they would probably buy and use this photo...
But the fact that your friends like (and BTW. so do I) and want the photo does not necessarily speak about the commercial value of it as they are probably not going to use it anywhere commercially or pay for it...

« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2009, 09:11 »
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Right, they won't pay for it...

« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2009, 09:14 »
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BTW, who said you don't have sense of humor?

« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2009, 09:49 »
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haha... gotta have a sense of humor or it doesn't work (or it offends you!)

Great commercial value in the novelty cards and calendar markets.  Go for it..  don't waste it here.

cheers,  JC

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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2009, 09:54 »
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it is difficult to even tell from the photograph that the smaller animal is a cat. Therefore the picture does not even work as a funny.

« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2009, 10:15 »
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Quote "By my opinion this is a good example of power of love...or passion, or what ever. Natural enemies making love.."

Ha ha !  Im not sure about the lovepart here ???. I think the cat pretty much hates that dog for that... :D

« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2009, 10:29 »
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I think a strong conceptual image can have many technical deficiencies. That's one of the things that drives me mad about microstock. Most inspectors lack the savvy to evaluate images for their overall strength. That said I doubt your image would do that well commercially especially in prude markets like the US.

« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2009, 10:36 »
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it is difficult to even tell from the photograph that the smaller animal is a cat. Therefore the picture does not even work as a funny.

Oh, it's because thumbnail is small. When you see it full size, it's of course very obvious they are dog and a cat.

« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2009, 11:19 »
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it is difficult to even tell from the photograph that the smaller animal is a cat. Therefore the picture does not even work as a funny.

Oh, it's because thumbnail is small. When you see it full size, it's of course very obvious they are dog and a cat.

Images need to work as thumbnails or it will never be opened to a larger size. Besides the size displayed here is not much smaller than a large view on most sites.

« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2009, 11:51 »
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Oh, it's because thumbnail is small. When you see it full size, it's of course very obvious they are dog and a cat.

For a thumbnail, it's large. Buyers always buy thumbnails. In a way, this is good since it forces you to make a good and very clear general composition, details being abstracted. A commercial image needs to pop up and able to be analyzed in a split second by our vision system. This one looks like a black blob on a dirty white background. It could work with a lot of fill-in light on a darker background. Apart from that, I don't really see how a rather "vulgar" depiction of sex by stray animals could sell a product or a service. It might have some ethological value, if it wasn't a very common scene on streets.

« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2009, 12:12 »
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Whitechild, I think you should submit it directly to those humour magazines. They will probably pay you more than you might get from selling it on micro. You might even get a photo credit.

« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2009, 14:09 »
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Oh, it's because thumbnail is small. When you see it full size, it's of course very obvious they are dog and a cat.

For a thumbnail, it's large. Buyers always buy thumbnails. In a way, this is good since it forces you to make a good and very clear general composition, details being abstracted. A commercial image needs to pop up and able to be analyzed in a split second by our vision system. This one looks like a black blob on a dirty white background. It could work with a lot of fill-in light on a darker background. Apart from that, I don't really see how a rather "vulgar" depiction of sex by stray animals could sell a product or a service. It might have some ethological value, if it wasn't a very common scene on streets.

Right :D
I can't really improve lighting. Too much missing details in the shadow...
« Last Edit: March 05, 2009, 14:12 by whitechild »


 

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