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Yuri_Arcurs

  • One Crazy PhotoManic MadPerson
« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2013, 14:57 »
+1
Hi Yuri,

How are model releases handled on scoopshot?

Good luck,

Mark

Scoopshot is editorial. Only when customers wants to use the images as a commercial product a model release is required.


Yuri_Arcurs

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« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2013, 14:59 »
0
excellent Yuri !

this press release will be the nail in the coffin for the few microstockers left who still dream about the downfall of Getty, RM, and the so called "macrosaurs".

and yeah, if the top micro agencies can't keep their top sellers investors have definitely a hot potato in their hands or at least some will read it that way.

True.

« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2013, 14:59 »
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Scoopshot : well maybe i'm an old fart but the only business model i see about it is selling the startup to the next buyer in line after 1-2 yrs, maybe for 10-20 millions $ if lucky !

reason : many others tried this path already and got burned, including Getty.

but apart this there's a myriad of issues that are still downplayed, copyright and model/property releases for instance, scams and stolen images, etc etc, and obviously the price is too low to give decent photographers or even amateurs a good reason to invest energy and time, might be good for students with iphones and droids but they will quickly realize a "task" can easily take hours of hard work and earn a pittance.

i will try it out but i rest my case.



Yuri_Arcurs

  • One Crazy PhotoManic MadPerson
« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2013, 15:00 »
-5
Could u be kind enough to answer my question please Yuri as to why you still have images on DT?
Thanks

I actually don't know. I will have to reference my distribution team tomorrow. I presume most will be removed quite soon.

« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2013, 15:00 »
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You are really angry! Why? I made your day didn't I?

yes I expected that from you, running away from replying properly and yes you have made my day, still laughing!

you are so full of yourself and full of crap too ;D

« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2013, 15:01 »
+19
Yuri, you most likely won't answer this the way we want you to, but I will ask anyway:

After the years (!) of iStock giving us proof of not being able to listen to (well established, professional) contributors AND constantly (to this day) having severe problems with their day to day business operations (site up-time, staff replacements, seemingly untested implementation of new features, inability to pay contributors, the list is endless, literally), what in heaven's name did Getty promise you to simply overlook all these previously mentioned facts?

Thanks for reading and even more thanks for a potential answer to that.

« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2013, 15:01 »
+1
Yuri,

- a lot of photographers expected You to have social responsibility - being a major player in the field You have b seen seen as a "protector" and leader of contributors. Now You have "abandoned" them. Can You please comment on that

- do you think mobile photography is the only future income source for part-time photographers which get their moderate income on microstocks nowadays

- where do You stand in recent "Google case" Getty have had ?

thank You in advance
« Last Edit: July 25, 2013, 15:06 by mihhailov »

« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2013, 15:02 »
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Could u be kind enough to answer my question please Yuri as to why you still have images on DT?
Thanks

I actually don't know. I will have to reference my distribution team tomorrow. I presume most will be removed quite soon.

those su-ckers scratch hard their ass, what a joke!

Lev

« Reply #33 on: July 25, 2013, 15:02 »
+2
Yuri, from your experience and knowledge,

1. do you believe there will be any raise of .38 SS subscription royalty bar, maybe at quite high sales level, in the nearest future (let's say 12 months)?

2. do you believe prices for credit sales on major microsites will go any higher than current level in next 12 months or you believe we will see exactly the opposite?

3. now you obviously see a new horizons in raising income for YAP, comparing to horizons you've seen on micros, how big it is? the number you expect to have in 2014 and 2015 financial years now, how does it relate to the numbers for 2014 and 2015 you would expect to have if would stay on micros?

thank you!

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #34 on: July 25, 2013, 15:05 »
+2
Why did you spend all that money on peopleimages just to make it a partner of Getty/iStock? I'm sure you've negotiated a better percentage than us plebs, but still, they must be taking something.

Yuri_Arcurs

  • One Crazy PhotoManic MadPerson
« Reply #35 on: July 25, 2013, 15:05 »
-7
Yuri, I used to respect you and what you've been able to accomplish in microstock. But the way you've handled this is really disgusting.

Microstock companies gave you the opportunity to become what you are today. Maybe you've outgrown them, but it's really disrespectful to mock these companies on your way out the door, saying things like "professionals work with professionals" and calling your departure "the first substantial setback in microstock history."

You aren't microstock. We all are, and some of us real professionals in microstock wouldn't act like children on our way out the door if we ever opted to move on.

I completely agree. So why do you think I am saying what I do? Think deeper my friend. :)

Yuri_Arcurs

  • One Crazy PhotoManic MadPerson
« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2013, 15:07 »
+8
You are really angry! Why? I made your day didn't I?

yes I expected that from you, running away from replying properly and yes you have made my day, still laughing!

you are so full of yourself and full of crap too ;D

Arghh. That was low. I'm here. I listen and write back and this is what you want to say. Not worth my time.

« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2013, 15:08 »
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Godt get Jakob. Jeg har brug for at lse din artikel et par gange mere, for helt at forst den.
Men jeg tror du har ret i din kurs og dit perspektiv for fremtinden mht mobiler og hvor billederne kommer fra. Et nyt skridt op mht crowdsourcing. Det er nok rigtigt set.

Det er sjovt nok at se at janteloven sandelig ogs glder ude i verden.

« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2013, 15:09 »
+1
40% marketing hype / 60% rings true

Yuri was able to swing this deal because he built a functional site and the micros knew that he and other's like him could start a bleed on market share. Frankly, I think they feared that he could successfully start a cooperative site.

Like it or not his site is extremely functional and he built it with the customer in mind. 

"The main objective is to address the customer feedback I have collected over the years and create ingenious solutions to the problems they revealed. Problems such as how do I find a normal looking person and not overly model looking is solved by our looks selector in the model sidebar. If you come from Denmark for example, it is now possible to see what images other people from Denmark think look Danish, by using our country selector. You can drag and drop images into collections and collectively share and discus them with your colleagues in a chat room like environment by clicking the lightbox. You can save searches you do a lot, you can create alerts for when new images arrive matching things you are interested in. You can request custom retouching on images to extend them, find that extra copy space and get it back in just hours, and as the only site in the world you can get all files in a PNG (transparent background) format. Notice that from all of the above mentioned features, there is not one site in the world that has ANY of these features. Not one. Furthermore, by cutting out the middleman we can keep the same prices but provide a whole new level of service."

I am going to over look the marketing hype and spelling errors.  I would be willing to bet that more than a few shooter out there find themselves in the following position. Great for the micros and buyers but not so great for the content providers. How do you spell unsustainable again?

"I would estimate that for the last three years I tried very hard to convince myself that microstock was in fact the right place for the professional photographer. After all, my photography carrier was born here. Perhaps exactly because of that, I tried so hard to disregard a growing mismatch between microstock and myself, in product refinement, sophistication and budget. As you grow in skills, as your company grows, our distribution partners in microstock did not. Some agencies where ok, but in total, as a mass and as a workplace, the picture was not nice. Sometimes it felt like having a michelin restaurant inside a burger joint and at the same time having to match the prices. At some point the professional gets tired of selling 12 course testing menues at 0300AM at burger prices."

Yuri_Arcurs

  • One Crazy PhotoManic MadPerson
« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2013, 15:09 »
-5
Yuri, you most likely won't answer this the way we want you to, but I will ask anyway:

After the years (!) of iStock giving us proof of not being able to listen to (well established, professional) contributors AND constantly (to this day) having severe problems with their day to day business operations (site up-time, staff replacements, seemingly untested implementation of new features, inability to pay contributors, the list is endless, literally), what in heaven's name did Getty promise you to simply overlook all these previously mentioned facts?

Thanks for reading and even more thanks for a potential answer to that.

Now here is something that is interesting. I could really get in trouble here. I will kindly remind you that a certain CEO left the company about 2 years ago and most of the matters you are addressing dates back to then....

Yuri_Arcurs

  • One Crazy PhotoManic MadPerson
« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2013, 15:11 »
-5
Godt get Jakob. Jeg har brug for at lse din artikel et par gange mere, for helt at forst den.
Men jeg tror du har ret i din kurs og dit perspektiv for fremtinden mht mobiler og hvor billederne kommer fra. Et nyt skridt op mht crowdsourcing. Det er nok rigtigt set.

Det er sjovt nok at se at janteloven sandelig ogs glder ude i verden.

Hej Jesper. Ja. Sdan er det. Jeg fr s mange tsk hver gang. Sdan er det. Man bliver hrdhudet. Men ja. vr smart nu. Dem som ikke ser sammenligningen mellem mobile stock og micro tilbage i 2005, er nok desvre en "lost case". Tak for fine ord. God vind i DK!

« Reply #41 on: July 25, 2013, 15:11 »
+3
You are really angry! Why? I made your day didn't I?

yes I expected that from you, running away from replying properly and yes you have made my day, still laughing!

you are so full of yourself and full of crap too ;D

Arghh. That was low. I'm here. I listen and write back and this is what you want to say. Not worth my time.

playing the victim? oh man its hurts hearing the truth right? actually you were never part of this community, not only looking at this forum but also in terms of joining efforts in changing anything in this industry (the one that feed you and now you are spitting on), it was always about you and you and you and the way you talk here and press release show that very well


« Reply #42 on: July 25, 2013, 15:12 »
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i dont understand all this negativity and envy towards Yuri.

he's also making clear that after endless talks with the micro agencies owners there's no way at the horizon to see a raise in price or fees, so this should finally settle the question once and for all.

i've the feeling for many here it will mark the "end of a dream" but they can't say they've not been warned since the beginning, it was obvious to see a clear pattern where the top sellers moved out to greener pastures or started their own agencies and where agencies became greedier and greedier leaving nothing to their suppliers.



Donvanstaden

« Reply #43 on: July 25, 2013, 15:12 »
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Hi Yuri,

Thank you so much for taking 1-2 hours out of your precious schedule for us mere mortals. My question is why would you defecate all over the agencies that feed our children? You seem like a really smart guy, can you not figure out a way to make you millions without pulling down the companies that we rely on for our daily bread?

Thanks again for your time.




« Reply #44 on: July 25, 2013, 15:13 »
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Hi Yuri

How do you see the future of subscription sites like Shutterstock? Will they loose more quality producers?
What direction will the micro agencies go? Will they lower commissions further for short term profits? Or do you think major agencies like Shutterstock is finally going to wake up and realize that they need to pay their top photographers more, if they want them to stick around?

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #45 on: July 25, 2013, 15:13 »
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Yuri, you most likely won't answer this the way we want you to, but I will ask anyway:

After the years (!) of iStock giving us proof of not being able to listen to (well established, professional) contributors AND constantly (to this day) having severe problems with their day to day business operations (site up-time, staff replacements, seemingly untested implementation of new features, inability to pay contributors, the list is endless, literally), what in heaven's name did Getty promise you to simply overlook all these previously mentioned facts?

Thanks for reading and even more thanks for a potential answer to that.

Now here is something that is interesting. I could really get in trouble here. I will kindly remind you that a certain CEO left the company about 2 years ago and most of the matters you are addressing dates back to then....
What are you? PhotoMan(iac) or PhotoMouse?

« Reply #46 on: July 25, 2013, 15:14 »
+30
Other than echoing other people's comments that you need to get an editor to look over your work before you post it, I can only suggest that you keep a weather eye on your new business partner. Good luck beating the odds - their past performance speaks volumes.

I think you're way off base on the mobile photography business (and I have no real axe to grind one way or the other) but time will tell. If it is a big new thing, we all own the means to join in (a mobile phone) .

Your enthusiasm reminds me a bit of some of Bruce's posts after Getty acquired iStock. Just about every promise Getty made then has been broken, multiple times.

We'll certainly all be watching your progress with interest.

« Reply #47 on: July 25, 2013, 15:14 »
+6
Yuri, you most likely won't answer this the way we want you to, but I will ask anyway:

After the years (!) of iStock giving us proof of not being able to listen to (well established, professional) contributors AND constantly (to this day) having severe problems with their day to day business operations (site up-time, staff replacements, seemingly untested implementation of new features, inability to pay contributors, the list is endless, literally), what in heaven's name did Getty promise you to simply overlook all these previously mentioned facts?

Thanks for reading and even more thanks for a potential answer to that.

Now here is something that is interesting. I could really get in trouble here. I will kindly remind you that a certain CEO left the company about 2 years ago and most of the matters you are addressing dates back to then....

Since you're still part of the iStock family I wonder why you don't seem to be concerned about their IT department skills that have proven to preform miserably up to this day (PP reporting, ringing any bells?).

So for how much longer is the CEO, that left the company 2 years ago, going to be held responsible for all this?

Thanks anyway for taking the time.

« Reply #48 on: July 25, 2013, 15:14 »
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Yuri, you most likely won't answer this the way we want you to, but I will ask anyway:

After the years (!) of iStock giving us proof of not being able to listen to (well established, professional) contributors AND constantly (to this day) having severe problems with their day to day business operations (site up-time, staff replacements, seemingly untested implementation of new features, inability to pay contributors, the list is endless, literally), what in heaven's name did Getty promise you to simply overlook all these previously mentioned facts?

Thanks for reading and even more thanks for a potential answer to that.

Now here is something that is interesting. I could really get in trouble here. I will kindly remind you that a certain CEO left the company about 2 years ago and most of the matters you are addressing dates back to then....

Yuri, have you been assured from the current general manager that there will be improvements at istock? In terms of site functionality, contributor relations, etc?

« Reply #49 on: July 25, 2013, 15:14 »
+1
i've the feeling for many here it will mark the "end of a dream" but they can't say they've not been warned since the beginning

again your warnings/predictions since 1900 about this evil industry, once more you are helping us, so happy to have you around!


 

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