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« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2013, 19:05 »
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Don't feed the ego, folks.

Yuri made it pretty clear how he feels about all of us amateurs. Why are we talking about him?

How does he feel about us? Can someone remind us who missed that?


This thread (long) will let you read the history

http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/yuri-arcurs-first-public-statement/


« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2013, 19:10 »
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It's a strange project. I suppose the air force wanted the shots and arranged it all, since the expense certainly doesn't seem justified for stock purposes.  You could tell he works mostly in a studio from the time it took him to hit on panning as the solution, which I'm pretty sure a motor-sports shooter would have done automatically.

I couldn't agree moreI thought it was a little embarrassing the amount of time he wasted trying to get the shot. Obviously you have to pan with the plane as it passes by to get a shot like thatpretty ordinary result in the end as well.
Not to mention the embarrassing cost of all that expensive jet fuel.

stock-will-eat-itself

« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2013, 20:09 »
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I get the impression that it was just another vanity shoot for yet more self-promotion showing us how much gear he's got and how exciting his life is. Note the vital close-up of his personalised registration plate on his car.

And to think he could be shooting tomatoes on a white background, he took a wrong turn somewhere.

« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2013, 20:13 »
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I get the impression that it was just another vanity shoot for yet more self-promotion showing us how much gear he's got and how exciting his life is. Note the vital close-up of his personalised registration plate on his car.

And to think he could be shooting tomatoes on a white background, he took a wrong turn somewhere.

I suspect the 'tomatoes on a white background' would actually produce a far better ROI though. Where's the market for stock images of a training jet shot at dusk?

Spray and Pray

« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2013, 21:13 »
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Now if the Jet Fighter had launch a missile (AIM-9 Sidewinder) right at Yuri's SUV that might be worth some sales  ;)


« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2013, 23:12 »
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I don't know if anyone else is seeing it but when I went to view the video I got a pop-up ad along the bottom.... for OFFSET stock images.  Sweet irony  ;D

« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2013, 23:19 »
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I have never been a big fan of Yuri's photographic work (visible on stock sites). He produces rather boring, not original work because this is what apparently buyers want.  But I thought he was able to do much better, for his pleasure. In this video I saw a fortunate amateur who discovered panning and possibility of changing lens at dsrl camera.
I think the title: "Photographer who travel with 24000W strobes in the trunk of his Porsche Cayenne" fits better to his profile  ;D

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2013, 00:45 »
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What's the point in all this?
Just to show that he has a big Hasselblad and a lot of Profoto strobes?*


I find the result is absolutely uninteresting
Show off, nothing more.

Btw I wish him to get at least $ 0,25 with it

* S. Freud could have a lot to say about this

« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2013, 00:51 »
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ahh 1/800 is perfect for that thanks for educating me :-)

The 1/800 is because a Hasselblad has a leaf shutter in the lens, which opens and shuts more rapidly than a focal-plane shutter, where the two "curtains" move across the film gate together with a narrow gap between them.  But 1/800 isn't really necessary for this shot. If the plane is moving at 300kph then it will move only 0.1m in 1/800 or 0.4m in 1/200.  The plane is at least 100m away, so the motion blur is going to be insignificant, especially as it is further reduced by panning. By comparison, a tennis ball served by a top pro will travel at half that speed but photographed from the side of the net, 10m from the player, will travel through an angle 5x greater than the plane viewed from 100m. If 1/1000 will freeze the tennis ball, which it will, then 1/200 would freeze the plane.

The larger image size of the Hasselblad offsets some of the advantage of the faster shutter speed, too, as you will use a longer focal length on the 'blad, so the only advantage you are left with is that you have a bigger image if you want to plaster the side of a building with it (or you can use a wider lens and crop if you want to).

I'm sure Gostwyck is right to dismiss my idea of the air force sponsoring it - maybe Hasselblad did, or maybe it was just a very expensive "boys with toys" event. in any case, I reckon a top-end DSLR would have been more suitable for the job.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2013, 01:28 by BaldricksTrousers »

« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2013, 02:18 »
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ahh 1/800 is perfect for that thanks for educating me :-)

The 1/800 is because a Hasselblad has a leaf shutter in the lens, which opens and shuts more rapidly than a focal-plane shutter, where the two "curtains" move across the film gate together with a narrow gap between them.  But 1/800 isn't really necessary for this shot. If the plane is moving at 300kph then it will move only 0.1m in 1/800 or 0.4m in 1/200.  The plane is at least 100m away, so the motion blur is going to be insignificant, especially as it is further reduced by panning. By comparison, a tennis ball served by a top pro will travel at half that speed but photographed from the side of the net, 10m from the player, will travel through an angle 5x greater than the plane viewed from 100m. If 1/1000 will freeze the tennis ball, which it will, then 1/200 would freeze the plane.

The larger image size of the Hasselblad offsets some of the advantage of the faster shutter speed, too, as you will use a longer focal length on the 'blad, so the only advantage you are left with is that you have a bigger image if you want to plaster the side of a building with it (or you can use a wider lens and crop if you want to).

I'm sure Gostwyck is right to dismiss my idea of the air force sponsoring it - maybe Hasselblad did, or maybe it was just a very expensive "boys with toys" event. in any case, I reckon a top-end DSLR would have been more suitable for the job.

Or maybe any decent dlsr on a sunny winter day with snow on the ground and then cut out the blue sky background and plop it into whatever moody background you want and don't even mess with the strobes. Not as much fun for a video though.

« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2013, 04:29 »
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It is a very intersting video to see ... but to me it is only an advertise to PROFOTO.
Yuri is sponsored by Profoto or want to be, and the same with the Hasselblad.

Now he is making money with his brand.

« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2013, 05:31 »
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Hi
It was fun to learn,
Thank you.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2013, 05:35 by picjew »

« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2013, 06:32 »
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It's self advertisement for the dumbo type would-be sponsors / clients. Shooting it on the ground + PS would have been lot simpler and most likely lot better quality end product.

« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2013, 07:34 »
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It's a strange project. I suppose the air force wanted the shots and arranged it all, since the expense certainly doesn't seem justified for stock purposes.  You could tell he works mostly in a studio from the time it took him to hit on panning as the solution, which I'm pretty sure a motor-sports shooter would have done automatically.


I couldn't agree moreI thought it was a little embarrassing the amount of time he wasted trying to get the shot. Obviously you have to pan with the plane as it passes by to get a shot like thatpretty ordinary result in the end as well.

No, that's not the right way to do a video. Had he got it at first try, there's no plot, no suspense... boring. Trying several times at getting it at the las gasp has a positive dramatic effect.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2013, 10:44 by loop »

Shelma1

« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2013, 07:36 »
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I see a photographer and pilot taking unnecessary risks for a shot that could have been better and more easily taken with the plane grounded and then composited later. I could understand if they needed to light the plane for video, but for still photography?

Ron

« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2013, 07:55 »
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It saddens me to see all these artists rip into another artist for completely the wrong reasons. I dont care what he did with SS or IS to still be able to enjoy that video, thats a cool video and a cool shot. I am sure if you make millions of dollars with your photos you know what you are doing. Maybe he was just showing off toys, who cares, we all love to do that.

The value of that photo increased because its the real deal, it has a story, its not a photoshopped image, which has no story.

Is ripping into him going to make you feel better or sell more photos?

Petty.



Beppe Grillo

« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2013, 08:01 »
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It saddens me to see all these artists rip into another artist for completely the wrong reasons. I dont care what he did with SS or IS to still be able to enjoy that video, thats a cool video and a cool shot. I am sure if you make millions of dollars with your photos you know what you are doing. Maybe he was just showing off toys, who cares, we all love to do that.

The value of that photo increased because its the real deal, it has a story, its not a photoshopped image, which has no story.

Is ripping into him going to make you feel better or sell more photos?

Petty.

If (when :D) I will earn millions $$$ with my photos I will not spend my extra money to make useless games with expensive toys.
My ego will be better satisfied giving this extra money in charity for children in need


Ron

« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2013, 08:28 »
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Missing the point

« Reply #43 on: November 15, 2013, 08:41 »
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It saddens me to see all these artists rip into another artist for completely the wrong reasons. I dont care what he did with SS or IS to still be able to enjoy that video, thats a cool video and a cool shot. I am sure if you make millions of dollars with your photos you know what you are doing. Maybe he was just showing off toys, who cares, we all love to do that.

The value of that photo increased because its the real deal, it has a story, its not a photoshopped image, which has no story.

Is ripping into him going to make you feel better or sell more photos?

Petty.

If (when :D) I will earn millions $$$ with my photos I will not spend my extra money to make useless games with expensive toys.
My ego will be better satisfied giving this extra money in charity for children in need

Ron is correct.  I thought it was pretty cool to watch.  Would I do that if I had the resources?  Probably not.  Would Yuri? Obviously, yes.  I already do charity work today and I don't make millions but I might do something I can't really afford to do today like dive the antarctic or something along those lines.  It's all to each his own (if they are loaded).  Yuri did this video for probably more than one specific reason; it could be ego, promo, the challenge, branding, or all of the above. Who cares.  The guy obviously did something with his camera that most of us would never have the resources to attempt. However, for me, I DID lose a lot of respect for Yuri when he basically pissed on us with his poorly chosen comments when he got his special deal with Getty.  While his business went from rags to riches, his personality went from humble to hell in a hand basket, and that in and of itself has completely changed my mind about him.  But the shoot was still cool in my opinion.

« Reply #44 on: November 15, 2013, 08:43 »
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Check out this one.

I think he doesn't have so many equipments and no videos and the results...... amazing.

http://www.ismaeljorda.com/online_shop__tienda/item/calendario-2012

« Reply #45 on: November 15, 2013, 08:48 »
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Check out this one.

I think he doesn't have so many equipments and no videos and the results...... amazing.

http://www.ismaeljorda.com/online_shop__tienda/item/calendario-2012


I used to work in the aerospace industry and had access to some REALLY AMAZING fighter jet images like these.  I am still awed when I see them.  One of the things to know is that fighter pilots are hams and love to have their pictures taken.  In many cases photographers go up in a different jet or other aircraft and shoot other jets and military aircraft.  Once you get approval from the military to do such shoots, you won't have a problem finding pilots to participate. Thanks for posting that link.  Brings back a lot of memories.

Ron

« Reply #46 on: November 15, 2013, 08:53 »
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Well said Mantis

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #47 on: November 15, 2013, 09:27 »
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Check out this one.

I think he doesn't have so many equipments and no videos and the results...... amazing.

http://www.ismaeljorda.com/online_shop__tienda/item/calendario-2012


I used to work in the aerospace industry and had access to some REALLY AMAZING fighter jet images like these.  I am still awed when I see them.  One of the things to know is that fighter pilots are hams and love to have their pictures taken.  In many cases photographers go up in a different jet or other aircraft and shoot other jets and military aircraft.  Once you get approval from the military to do such shoots, you won't have a problem finding pilots to participate. Thanks for posting that link.  Brings back a lot of memories.


It has been my job times ago. So we were colleague

When I was young(er) I was the photographer of the Helicopter department of french Arospatiale.
Some shoots were done from the ground but most of the shoots were done in air, from an helicopter.
I used the Hasselblad 500 EL/M and sometime a Linhof Technika (Imagine to use this from an helicopter with 4 x 5" films :D), I felt like Beken of Cowes Shooting with the "pear" in mouth



So, yes Yuri's video can be interesting to show how many equipment he needs to get what he gets
But

« Last Edit: November 15, 2013, 09:29 by Beppe Grillo »

« Reply #48 on: November 15, 2013, 11:18 »
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It saddens me to see all these artists rip into another artist for completely the wrong reasons. I dont care what he did with SS or IS to still be able to enjoy that video, thats a cool video and a cool shot. I am sure if you make millions of dollars with your photos you know what you are doing. Maybe he was just showing off toys, who cares, we all love to do that.

The value of that photo increased because its the real deal, it has a story, its not a photoshopped image, which has no story.

Is ripping into him going to make you feel better or sell more photos?

Petty.


Jebb Corliss videos are cool, this is just some ppl hanging out on some wet gloomy meadow with strobes.

« Reply #49 on: November 15, 2013, 11:23 »
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Aircraft can slow down and still manuever some,  why did they have the aircraft going so fast ??


 

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