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« on: September 22, 2011, 06:48 »
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http://www.arcurs.com/if-you-like-traveling-photography-and-learning-from-the-best-read-this

If you like traveling, photography and learning from the best, read this!
Posted on: September 22, 2011

This year Yuri Arcurs Photography is putting together an elite international academy program in the hope of producing the most competent and gifted photography class of 2015. This private funded program runs for three years, during which participants will be given a once in a lifetime opportunity to experience travel to exotic locations, a first-class photography education from some of the industrys leading experts, and working experience through interactions with real projects, clients and top models.

We are looking to recruit 10 15 candidates, who will have to prove they are motivated, ambitious and bright. You will be given the opportunity to prove you have what it takes at our two-week long photography boot camp in January 2012. Very little photography knowledge is needed, we will equip you with what you need to know.

During the 3 year education you will have exams in the following subjects:
The technical skills required to use all Nikon, Canon and Hasselblad cameras.
Video recording and editing with SLR cameras, RED epic and others.
Basic and advanced photoshopping.
Advanced RAW processing.
Advanced digital image theory.
Shoot planning and execution planning.
Creative research, Image Critique.
Branding, Client managing, Invoicing, Legal aspects.

How to qualify:
In order to qualify for the program, you must pass a 2 week boot camp in Cape Town, South Africa. The boot camp offers all its participants an opportunity to receive first-class photography training, even those who do not get accepted into the program.
To be considered for the photography boot camp you must:
Manage your own accommodations and travel into Cape Town for the boot camp duration.
Bring your own digital SLR camera that can produce at least 16 mega pixel images.
Bring at least one 50mm or 85mm lens that can shoot no less than 2.0 in aperture.
Bring at least 16 Gb of memory for your camera (CF preferred).
Be able to stay 2 weeks in Cape Town for training and assignments from January 3rd 2012.
Be able to dedicate 3 years of your life for this education starting from January 23rd 2012 and have no problem spending up to half of the year in all parts of the world with the primary base in Cape Town, South Africa.
Have no criminal record or any other criteria that would not allow you to travel to Europe or other places.
Agree to potentially being part of a TV production about the boot camp for reality TV.

How to apply:
Contact us no later than DECEMBER 1st on [email protected] and make sure to mark the mail Photography student and include ALL of the following to be considered for the education:
Motivation letter tell us why you are interested in this education.
Your CV.
Any reference letter from previous employers.
Something about yourself.
A photograph of yourself.
A statement showing a clean criminal record.

The final class candidates will be announced on JANUARY 17th 2012. The best candidates will be offered a job at Yuri Arcurs Photography after graduation.

Click here to see the flyer!

NB: PLEASE NOTE THAT ANY ATTEMPT TO CONTACT YURI HIMSELF DIRECTLY WILL DISQUALIFY YOU FROM BEING CONSIDERED!


« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2011, 07:02 »
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That sounds like an incredible opportunity for a youngster, probably better than any academic course.

« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2011, 07:11 »
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I'm intrigued by this! I can't work out where the money is coming from for Yuri. The 'reality TV show' thing sounds like a hook to me. I can't see watching people taking photo's making prime-time viewing.

lthn

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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2011, 07:34 »
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" I can't work out where the money is coming from for Yuri."

From this, for example. It doesn't say it's free.... and there's plenty of other oppurtonities here, like getting the shots of talented attendees, which means more shooters working for you for almost free? But thats all speculation of course, he can clear this all up if he intends to.

« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2011, 08:13 »
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I can't see watching people taking photo's making prime-time viewing.

Mix in some love triangles, backstabbing, distraught models, losers being sent home with dreams crushed and a comic sleezeball or two.  Could work. 

« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2011, 08:21 »
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I can't see watching people taking photo's making prime-time viewing.

Mix in some love triangles, backstabbing, distraught models, losers being sent home with dreams crushed and a comic sleezeball or two.  Could work. 

Populated with some of the denizens of this forum it would be compulsive viewing.

« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2011, 08:22 »
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I'm intrigued by this! I can't work out where the money is coming from for Yuri.

Who do you think is going to hold the copyright on 3 years of photos from 10-15 "photographers".  Talk about flooding the market.  Unbelievable.

« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2011, 08:24 »
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Who do you think is going to hold the copyright on 3 years of photos from 10-15 "photographers".  Talk about flooding the market.  Unbelievable.

Do I take it from that you will not be applying for 'boot camp' then?

« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2011, 08:27 »
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LOL, I'm not available.  I've already got a conflict between being on "Next Food Network Star" and "Survivor: Denmark".

Seriously, if the point of this isn't just to crush everyone here, I don't know what it is.  "Sharing" at its best!

michealo

« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2011, 08:33 »
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Well it sounds like the basis for a new stock agency

Take the 65000 file in his port and what the 10 - 15 shoot in 3 years

500,000 to a million files

I'm guessing he has enough insight into the market to shoot what will sell.

I'd be worried if I were an agency.

He can simultaneously drop his prices and raise his %

ShadySue

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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2011, 08:38 »
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I can't see watching people taking photo's making prime-time viewing.

Mix in some love triangles, backstabbing, distraught models, losers being sent home with dreams crushed and a comic sleezeball or two.  Could work. 

Populated with some of the denizens of this forum it would be compulsive viewing.
LOL!

« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2011, 08:39 »
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Seriously, if the point of this isn't just to crush everyone here, I don't know what it is.  "Sharing" at its best!

I'm sure you're right on the copyright ownership thing but, if that's the plan, it doesn't strike me as a particularly efficient means of scaling up his operation. There would be huge costs in usefully employing all those people, providing models, sets, etc and 3 years is a very long time to invest too.  Also, as we all know, many stock niches have already been done to death already. What's it going to be like in 3-4 years time? All that against a backdrop of 'falling sales' and dwindling RPI as reported by the man himself.

« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2011, 08:44 »
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Very interesting program. A lot more intense than istocks "Feast" or the Lypses. The people walking out of that training will be really very experienced.

Looks like Yuri will be in the industry for a long time.

« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2011, 08:46 »
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Well it sounds like the basis for a new stock agency

Take the 65000 file in his port and what the 10 - 15 shoot in 3 years

500,000 to a million files

I'm guessing he has enough insight into the market to shoot what will sell.

I'd be worried if I were an agency.

He can simultaneously drop his prices and raise his %

That's a really good point. Of course, as a direct competitor, it would mean he'd be kicked off most of the agencies that currently host his work __ which would actually be good for the other contributors. Hmmm.

« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2011, 08:47 »
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Actually, this is brilliant.  The models turn into celebrities on the reality show and Yuri has their model-released imagery to sell forever.  Nice.

« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2011, 08:53 »
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Looks like Yuri will be in the industry for a long time.


Because we all know how well training your competition is currently going: http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/sales-dropping-istock-especially/msg219410/?topicseen#new

« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2011, 08:55 »
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3 years is a really long time.  I would be concerned that there would be any market left for new contributors after that time.  There isn't much point in learning how to be like Yuri now when there are so many people already doing it.

The reality TV bit made me do a double take.  I know there's a reality TV show about almost everything now but is learning photoshop going to make compelling viewing?  I suppose they will skip that and concentrate on the models.  There's so many TV channels now, I suppose there's going to be shows about everything.


RacePhoto

« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2011, 09:45 »
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3 years is a really long time.  I would be concerned that there would be any market left for new contributors after that time.  There isn't much point in learning how to be like Yuri now when there are so many people already doing it.

The reality TV bit made me do a double take.  I know there's a reality TV show about almost everything now but is learning photoshop going to make compelling viewing?  I suppose they will skip that and concentrate on the models.  There's so many TV channels now, I suppose there's going to be shows about everything.

And my question was, is this for real or a joke?  :D

RT


« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2011, 10:00 »
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10-15 photographers travelling around the world - I'm guessing Yuri is moving into editorial stock, for which the only real skill you need is being able to be somewhere with a camera, I'm sure they'll get some training about the basics of photography, they'll certainly get educated in giving away copyright  :P

grp_photo

« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2011, 10:26 »
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Well shooting is not the problem I could easily multiply my photographic output fifteen times if I could just concentrate on photographing. Organising, booking, researching, file-managment, keywording, retouching etc. etc. that is the problem. But I still prefer to be a one-man show it just fits my lifestyle and personality so much better.


LSD72

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« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2011, 14:08 »
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Is there going to be an Immunity Prime Lens? Will Gordon Ramsey come to berate you if you forget the clipping path? Acurs Tribe vs. Rodriguez Tribe?

I already think most people here are playing the Microstock Survivor home game.  ;D

« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2011, 14:19 »
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Is there going to be an Immunity Prime Lens? Will Gordon Ramsey come to berate you if you forget the clipping path? Acurs Tribe vs. Rodriguez Tribe?

I already think most people here are playing the Microstock Survivor home game.  ;D

eheheh Yuri is just playing at his best once more! trying to make us think and get depressed while his empire get bigger and richer, thats a great strategy, I hope more will quit as we keep on working and enjoying these kind of posts (right after the falling of IS topic from last week)

YAYYY

« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2011, 14:27 »
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Where is the fine print?

lagereek

« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2011, 14:27 »
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BRILLANT!   Im glad he is my country neighbour!  we Scandinavians are pretty clever arent we. I wish him luck, he has got more balls then all of us put together.

For those of you laughing?  dont!  in a few year you might be in for a shock.

Good luck to you mate!  

best.

nruboc

« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2011, 14:48 »
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I like photography as much as the next guy, but i enjoy it less when I feel compelled to shoot what sells to keep my earnings in tact - not to mention the time requirements invloved in incresed production to keep up with increased competition. As much as some like to think otherwise, Yuri's strategy seems like the right one to me,  in this industry to increase earnings.  Bring in a bunch of "students", teach them the trade, and take a cut of their earnings. Like someone said above, it's all in the fine print.

« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2011, 14:49 »
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So, this is like Hogwarts?


donding

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« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2011, 16:09 »
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Heh I think he would make a lot off of a reality TV show...doesn't matter if it's a hit or not....those are under contract. He'd get paid good money regardless, then if he gets the copyright to all those photos, that's a win win for him.

SNP

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« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2011, 16:21 »
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I'm thinking this can only be bad for all of us

« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2011, 16:57 »
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Hmm.. gotta admit he never sits still.
Hell, i'd consider signing away copyright for images taken there if in return i can travel around the world for free, have wild parties and learn a thing or two on the way. I'm fed up with stock anyways and what am i with my copyright if im forced to sell them not even creditted with my name, for a miserable $0.28.
Not that i will, because Very little photography knowledge is needed, we will equip you with what you need to know., but still my nikon D700 doesnt cut it because Bring your own digital SLR camera that can produce at least 16 mega pixel images.
...guess he's looking for amateurs with a very big budget.

BTW, there is/was a reality show about exactely this. A bunch of photographers were sent out every day to do different assignments, in the evenings got critiqued and followed up by the 'pro jury' and every once inna while someone was sent home because they werent good enough.
Maybe he bought the format to make a scandinavian version.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2011, 19:18 by Artemis »

« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2011, 17:44 »
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I'm thinking this can only be bad for all of us

Why so? Yuri's is a numbers game, formulaic and repetitive. He can increase his output astronomically, and it won't be much of a threat to anyone focused on creativity.

It's also anything but guaranteed this initiative will run its course. He's basically saying he wants 10-15 new interns for 3 years - a tall order. I wonder what the drop out rate will be out of this non-accredited 'school'. Not that it will matter much I guess. He most likely keeps the copyright, people can drop out when they like.

The only mystery left to Yuri is how he doesn't go mad, churning out the same over and over. I guess the money keeps him sane! :-D

SNP

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« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2011, 18:29 »
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since there are already contributors who trained under Yuri, producing strikingly similar images to his, that are now exclusive at iStock, Yuri spending three years training 10-15 more mini-me's can only mean a deluge of Yuri-styled images coming into stock collections. granted, I'm making a pretty big assumption. it's possible the aim of the program has nothing to do with populating collections...but it's enough of a possibility to worry me in an already saturated industry.

« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2011, 19:08 »
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...but it's enough of a possibility to worry me in an already saturated industry.

Think about the numbers. Even if all 15 'students' were to able to produce a massive 1000 new images per month each, for all of the supposed 36 months of the exercise, it would still only amount to about 500K in total. That's not much in the greater scheme of things over 3 years. How much would that all cost in terms of models, sets, etc? Far more realistic would be 100 new images per month per student in which case it is only 50K images over 3 years. That's no real threat at all unless they happen to compete directly with your own subject matter.

« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2011, 19:13 »
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Very little photography knowledge is needed


I can't stop looking at this!

Look at the bottom of the first page of the flyer : http://www.arcurs.com/wp-content/uploads/Become-a-Photographer.pdf

"NO PHOTOGRAPHY BACKGROUND IS REQUIRED!"

This doesn't seem serious at all.. at least for me.

SNP

  • Canadian Photographer
« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2011, 19:22 »
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...but it's enough of a possibility to worry me in an already saturated industry.

Think about the numbers. Even if all 15 'students' were to able to produce a massive 1000 new images per month each, for all of the supposed 36 months of the exercise, it would still only amount to about 500K in total. That's not much in the greater scheme of things over 3 years. How much would that all cost in terms of models, sets, etc? Far more realistic would be 100 new images per month per student in which case it is only 50K images over 3 years. That's no real threat at all unless they happen to compete directly with your own subject matter.

maybe.

I wouldn't scoff too much at the "no photography experience required" bit...just go back four or five years and look at the earliest files from some of the biggest microstock shooters. people can and do learn very quickly.

ShadySue

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« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2011, 19:34 »
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Very little photography knowledge is needed


I can't stop looking at this!

Look at the bottom of the first page of the flyer : http://www.arcurs.com/wp-content/uploads/Become-a-Photographer.pdf

"NO PHOTOGRAPHY BACKGROUND IS REQUIRED!"

This doesn't seem serious at all.. at least for me.

If it's going on to reality TV, the 'journey' is part of the story. Plus if the beginners do well, Yuri will be able to retire from shooting stock and spend his time teaching photography.

« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2011, 21:15 »
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Very little photography knowledge is needed


I can't stop looking at this!

Look at the bottom of the first page of the flyer : http://www.arcurs.com/wp-content/uploads/Become-a-Photographer.pdf

"NO PHOTOGRAPHY BACKGROUND IS REQUIRED!"

This doesn't seem serious at all.. at least for me.


But isn't that how Yuri started?  I thought he tried the micro thing to get through college.

Or do I have my rock stars mixed up?


« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2011, 21:43 »
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Interesting. I would like to know what the real plan and fine print are. I am guessing it is more about the reality show. But the people still need to get to Cape town with at minimum a T3i and 50mm f1.8 just to try out (and get a 2 week course?). If it wasn't so far away I'd be tempted to at least see what the fine print was just to get a chance to get someone to pay for travel and models etc. etc.

If the tv show does take off I wonder what it would do to microstock. Imagine having them all complain about IS every day in prime time.

could be entertaining.

« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2011, 21:44 »
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You were joking, right?

[....] I'm guessing Yuri is moving into editorial stock, for which the only real skill you need is being able to be somewhere with a camera, [....]

« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2011, 00:17 »
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Do I have to draw the pirate or the turtle to get into the school?

Sounds like a good idea though. I guess I'll have to work on my school too. I've got that thing where I draw a turkey by tracing my hand and... umm... err... I've got nothing.

Seriously though, I wish him the best. It sounds like a fun opportunity.

« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2011, 01:08 »
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I still can't see a reality TV show about stock photography being on a big channel.  Wont it be on one of the digital channels that don't get many viewers?  And it doesn't look definite, it's only potentially going to happen.  Perhaps they want to film a bit and then decide?  It might be on a channel that none of us can get, so we have to buy the DVD.

It would be of interest to most stock photographers but I'm not sure it would be watched by many of the general public.

Microbius

« Reply #41 on: September 23, 2011, 03:01 »
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It's stuff like this that makes me surprised he posted that other thread. I though he was moving away from traditional Micro income streams to stuff like this, hence flooding the market with his images on every site and building his brand by training his competitors etc. I suspect the contract signed will guarantee sale of images on YuriStock.com for x-number of years from these new photogs, maybe even exclusive uploads for images taken during training. He is building a library of first class Yuri-esque images, I suspect his agency will be very selective, appealing only to the buyers after the style he and his trainees produce and only recruiting similar style photographers.

RT


« Reply #42 on: September 23, 2011, 03:29 »
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[....] I'm guessing Yuri is moving into editorial stock, for which the only real skill you need is being able to be somewhere with a camera, [....]

You were joking, right?

No I wasn't joking - His advert mentions they'll be travelling around the world. There's a lot of money to be made from editorial stock, just read the Alamy forums there's one guy who's got 65k images and a look into his portfolio reveals he has no photographic skills whatsoever, seriously he walks down the street somehwhere with the thing on motor drive and submits the lot, and he's not alone, there's loads of folks there who have portfolios full of nothing more than snap shots, if you read their posts you'd think they were some of the worlds best photographers but they've no talent at all, yet each month they post how much they've made. So my guess is that Yuri's seen the potential to send these 'students' off on their travels, then hook them up with some models and you've got 10-15 people shooting model released editorial travel shots with Yuris compositional training (and he's very good at composition) and Seans photographic training, get them to sign away the copyright and he's onto a winner IMO - good for him.

Like I say that's my guess, oh and I wasn't trying to insult editorial photographers as a whole, quality always shines through just as in commercial stock.

I think the reality TV thing is just a spin off, Yuri is a master in the art of selling himself and I expect he's sold the idea to a TV company after he came up with the student thing, not the other way round.

Whatever your personal opinion of Yuri and his work nobody can deny the guy is certainly the worlds most successful 'self promoter' even when he doesn't deliberately self promote, and I admire him for that, I wish I had half the marketing skills he has.
« Last Edit: September 23, 2011, 03:36 by RT »

« Reply #43 on: September 23, 2011, 03:59 »
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I still can't see a reality TV show about stock photography being on a big channel.  Wont it be on one of the digital channels that don't get many viewers?  And it doesn't look definite, it's only potentially going to happen.  Perhaps they want to film a bit and then decide?  It might be on a channel that none of us can get, so we have to buy the DVD.

It would be of interest to most stock photographers but I'm not sure it would be watched by many of the general public.

Like most athletes, the big money is in having Sponsors.  Tiger made more $$ through his sponsors then in the game. Think about it, . . . .  Nikon, Canon, Adobe, etc, etc . . . . . and the people who would watch the show are the target clientele.
« Last Edit: September 23, 2011, 04:16 by etienjones »

Yuri_Arcurs

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« Reply #44 on: September 23, 2011, 04:15 »
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Firstly. Please show a good tone in this thread. I know this is a forum, but don't drag this thread down to the lowest level. You may feel this is a threat or that somebody is getting chances you never got, but again.... How many educational programs for young people offer them three years of photography education, traveling the world and to get paid while doing it...? This is unique and it deserves to be acknowledged.
Travel expenses will be paid fully - all three years. The idea is that the candidates we choose will be able to pay 50% for the education through work with real clients and on real shoots. This will off cause not be the case at first where we will have a lot of expenses on this (first year or so). In my eyes, the best practice is in doing. In my opinion, schools have a tendency to become very distant to the real world practice of the subject they are teaching. I spent five years studying psychology and found that i knew nothing of what it meant to be a good psychologist. In this program we try to break with this.

I will address some questions.
Q. Will I be Offered a job after graduation? After graduation of the boot camp or after graduation of the three years? Is the job paid?
A. There are two questions here. Yes and yes. The education program is set up in such a way that if you pass the bootcamp you get offered a student position which will be paid (very low). We can pay you because you quite fast will have to work with real clients and real projects.

Q. Is there a specific place we have to stay while were in Cape Town?
A. You can stay anywhere in Cape Town. You must just be able to show up at our headquarter every day for classes. The headquarter is located at 79 Roeland Street.

Q. Id be totally cool with traveling for half the year, but how would the six months be divided? Would it allow for us to have a part-time job for the time were not traveling?
A. At LEAST half a year. And those six months you might be in Denmark for three of them, in Australia for two, in Japan for one, etc. But you will be all over the place and must be able to do this.

Q. How many people do you expect to sign up for the boot camp?! 10 or 100? Is there a cap on how many you will let into the boot camp?
A. We expect about 500 applications and will select 100 for bootcamp. Out of those we expect 10-20 to pass for the class. This is elite. Only the best of the best, but dont let this stop you. The adventure of the bootcamp will be a thing in itself.

Q. It's a 3 years course with no dates defined? Being one semester of classes per year all in random events?
A. This is full time. About 4 weeks of vacation each year. Classes and exams are not ordered in semesters. Some take four weeks, some take a year..some require you to be in another country and do a project.

Q. Will we be shooting stock photography only?
A. Absolutely not. You will be shooting for clients and work on other projects when you are ready.

RT


« Reply #45 on: September 23, 2011, 04:36 »
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Firstly. Please show a good tone in this thread. I know this is a forum, but don't drag this thread down to the lowest level. You may feel this is a threat or that somebody is getting chances you never got, but again.... How many educational programs for young people offer them three years of photography education, traveling the world and to get paid while doing it...? This is unique and it deserves to be acknowledged.

Yuri with all due respect it's not an 'educational' programme, unless I and others have completely misunderstood it and you're not making a penny from any of this?

Plus to be honest the only unique part is that you're doing it on a grand scale, there are thousands of photographers assistants around the world that get 'educated' in the 'real world' whilst being paid a low wage, and of course the photographer makes money from their services.

I certainly don't feel threatened and I don't think you're giving anybody any chances that others couldn't have got, I admire what you're doing from a business perspective but unless you prove otherwise please don't make out it's anything different or special other than a business venture for which I wish you the best of luck.

« Reply #46 on: September 23, 2011, 04:55 »
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sounds like it should be called an internship or something like that.


Microbius

« Reply #47 on: September 23, 2011, 04:56 »
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I am also not sure where the negativity is in this thread? We have been discussing it from the perspective of being already in the industry and its implications and possible motivations. You can't really expect us to not try and dissect it given who visits this forum. I think most of the posts have actually been positive and complimentary, and even saying that it is a great opportunity for those who are chosen.

In a similar vain, the Q and As you posted don't really cover any of the questions we had as professional contributors e.g. what will happen with copyright of images shot during the course, after the course etc.

lthn

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« Reply #48 on: September 23, 2011, 05:06 »
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Firstly. Please show a good tone in this thread. I know this is a forum, but don't drag this thread down to the lowest level. You may feel this is a threat or that somebody is getting chances you never got, but again.... How many educational programs for young people offer them three years of photography education, traveling the world and to get paid while doing it...? This is unique and it deserves to be acknowledged.
Travel expenses will be paid fully - all three years. The idea is that the candidates we choose will be able to pay 50% for the education through work with real clients and on real shoots. This will off cause not be the case at first where we will have a lot of expenses on this (first year or so). In my eyes, the best practice is in doing. In my opinion, schools have a tendency to become very distant to the real world practice of the subject they are teaching. I spent five years studying psychology and found that i knew nothing of what it meant to be a good psychologist. In this program we try to break with this.

I will address some questions.
Q. Will I be Offered a job after graduation? After graduation of the boot camp or after graduation of the three years? Is the job paid?
A. There are two questions here. Yes and yes. The education program is set up in such a way that if you pass the bootcamp you get offered a student position which will be paid (very low). We can pay you because you quite fast will have to work with real clients and real projects.

Q. Is there a specific place we have to stay while were in Cape Town?
A. You can stay anywhere in Cape Town. You must just be able to show up at our headquarter every day for classes. The headquarter is located at 79 Roeland Street.

Q. Id be totally cool with traveling for half the year, but how would the six months be divided? Would it allow for us to have a part-time job for the time were not traveling?
A. At LEAST half a year. And those six months you might be in Denmark for three of them, in Australia for two, in Japan for one, etc. But you will be all over the place and must be able to do this.

Q. How many people do you expect to sign up for the boot camp?! 10 or 100? Is there a cap on how many you will let into the boot camp?
A. We expect about 500 applications and will select 100 for bootcamp. Out of those we expect 10-20 to pass for the class. This is elite. Only the best of the best, but dont let this stop you. The adventure of the bootcamp will be a thing in itself.

Q. It's a 3 years course with no dates defined? Being one semester of classes per year all in random events?
A. This is full time. About 4 weeks of vacation each year. Classes and exams are not ordered in semesters. Some take four weeks, some take a year..some require you to be in another country and do a project.

Q. Will we be shooting stock photography only?
A. Absolutely not. You will be shooting for clients and work on other projects when you are ready.

So you are reasonably charitable person, and one who thinks running a business should come with a sense of social responsibility, that besides making profit, you should be part of building to a long - term upholdable society?

« Reply #49 on: September 23, 2011, 05:30 »
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Q. How many people do you expect to sign up for the boot camp?! 10 or 100? Is there a cap on how many you will let into the boot camp?
A. We expect about 500 applications and will select 100 for bootcamp. Out of those we expect 10-20 to pass for the class. This is elite. Only the best of the best, but dont let this stop you. The adventure of the bootcamp will be a thing in itself.

OK, so no photography experience required. How do you determine "best of the best"? Do you mean "who has the most money?" This is elite. How do I qualify for being elite? Again, I have to have a lot of money? Do I have to be able to act? It all seems a bit dramatic. Just what TV needs, more pretend "reality" shows.  ::)

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Whatever your personal opinion of Yuri and his work nobody can deny the guy is certainly the worlds most successful 'self promoter' even when he doesn't deliberately self promote, and I admire him for that, I wish I had half the marketing skills he has.

I could care less about his marketing skills. I would take half his money, though.

« Reply #50 on: September 23, 2011, 05:40 »
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I thought it was a bit strange saying no photographic experience needed but you need a 16mp camera to take along. I suppose you could rent/borrow one.

rubyroo

« Reply #51 on: September 23, 2011, 05:42 »
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...or have rich parents who'll do anything for their kids.

(..but I'm not bitter...  :D)
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« Reply #52 on: September 23, 2011, 05:44 »
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I don't feel any threat because my portfolio isn't anything like the Yuri style.  I think this is great for those that want to do this style of photography but I prefer doing my own thing.

I wish Yuri and anyone that goes for this the best of luck.  I really hope the TV show is on a channel I can see in the UK or will be available online.  I watch anything to do with photography, even if it isn't what I like doing.

There's going to be a lot of jealously, everyone gets flack from others on this forum at some point.  It's best to ignore it, I don't think asking people to "show a good tone" will work with some of the regulars here :)  There's always the ignore button.

rubyroo

« Reply #53 on: September 23, 2011, 05:46 »
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I don't feel any threat because my portfolio isn't anything like the Yuri style.  

Same here.

« Reply #54 on: September 23, 2011, 06:02 »
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The only person that needs to feel threaten is Scott Kelby. Good luck Yuri great idea!

« Reply #55 on: September 23, 2011, 07:13 »
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Q. Will we be shooting stock photography only?
A. Absolutely not. You will be shooting for clients and work on other projects when you are ready.

Who holds the copyright for all the work that the "students" do?

How long is the non-compete contract, or are you willing to take on even more copycat competition?
« Last Edit: September 23, 2011, 07:17 by sjlocke »

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« Reply #56 on: September 23, 2011, 07:29 »
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There's no such thing as a free lunch


rubyroo

« Reply #57 on: September 23, 2011, 07:30 »
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Actually there is.  I used to volunteer at a charity for the homeless and long-term-unemployed where I taught work skills.  All the centre's users and staff were given free lunches.
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« Reply #58 on: September 23, 2011, 07:42 »
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Actually there is.  I used to volunteer at a homeless and long-term-unemployed charity, teaching work skills, and I was given a free lunch along with the centre's users  ;)

you taught work skills and therefore you got a lunch that's not my definition of free

rubyroo

« Reply #59 on: September 23, 2011, 07:43 »
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Ah but all the centre's users were given free lunches too.  They weren't obliged to do anything for that except turn up, and they could avail themselves to any of the services they wished for free.
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« Reply #60 on: September 23, 2011, 08:16 »
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I think negativity on this forum is a given, unfortunately. out of principle some contributors dislike anything that even smells like a factory, with good reason. regardless, it does seem like an intensive and incredible experience for burgeoning photographers. a hands-on education is so much better than one based on theory alone.

« Reply #61 on: September 23, 2011, 08:49 »
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i did a 4 year photography degree and came out not being able to apply much of anything to the real world.

A 3 year (or even 1 year) hands-on internship would have been much more valuable and smart money-wise.

fujiko

« Reply #62 on: September 23, 2011, 09:08 »
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I think it's an awesome idea.

I wish I could apply, but I can't.  :'(

ShadySue

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« Reply #63 on: September 23, 2011, 09:27 »
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Even the BootCamp would be a great experience, I'm sure; but I'm too old and tubby to spend time with the Beautiful People (and don't fancy myself as the Ann Widdecombe of Photographing With The Star); and I couldn't be in Cape Town without constantly twitching to be on safari, which would introduce camera shake. [H*ll, I can't even be in Scotland without twitching to be on safari.]
Held og lykke to all who avail themselves of this opportunity.
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« Reply #64 on: September 23, 2011, 10:13 »
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I can't see watching people taking photo's making prime-time viewing.

Mix in some love triangles, backstabbing, distraught models, losers being sent home with dreams crushed and a comic sleezeball or two.  Could work. 

the only thing missing for MSG forum as a reality TV-show must be the Love part.

grp_photo

« Reply #65 on: September 23, 2011, 10:57 »
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BTW, there is/was a reality show about exactely this. A bunch of photographers were sent out every day to do different assignments, in the evenings got critiqued and followed up by the 'pro jury' and every once inna while someone was sent home because they werent good enough.

any uploads of this show on Youtube or anywhere else would like to see it.

grp_photo

« Reply #66 on: September 23, 2011, 11:02 »
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I'm thinking this can only be bad for all of us
Unfortunately I'm pretty sure you're right, more people watching the show will be motivated to join and contribute to stocksites in the hope they can have the same lifestyle that will be promised in the show (we all now they reality is not shooting beautiful models on exotic beaches but this will be the message of the show)


ShadySue

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« Reply #67 on: September 23, 2011, 11:06 »
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I'm thinking this can only be bad for all of us
Unfortunately I'm pretty sure you're right, more people watching the show will be motivated to join and contribute to stocksites in the hope they can have the same lifestyle that will be promised in the show (we all now they reality is not shooting beautiful models on exotic beaches but this will be the message of the show)
Yeah, but if that's their only motivation, they won't last long enough to be threats.

« Reply #68 on: September 23, 2011, 12:05 »
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BTW, there is/was a reality show about exactely this. A bunch of photographers were sent out every day to do different assignments, in the evenings got critiqued and followed up by the 'pro jury' and every once inna while someone was sent home because they werent good enough.


any uploads of this show on Youtube or anywhere else would like to see it.

I've only seen one episode awhile ago when i came passed it zapping; but i'm pretty sure it was this show:
The Big Shot 2 Trailer - Reality TV Show

America's next top model for photographers ;)

« Reply #69 on: September 23, 2011, 12:16 »
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What he's doing is brilliant in terms of Public Relations. Why hire a PR firm when you can have 10 to 15 PR soldiers working under you for the next 3 years. Excellent business move!

grp_photo

« Reply #70 on: September 23, 2011, 12:48 »
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America's next top model for photographers ;)
Thanks Artemis I think the same. Photography was always a hip profession but it seems that it has become much more hip lately on the other side it has become so much easier technically wise. No doubt competition will grow in the next years and it was always a very competitive profession. Okay back to work now :-).

« Reply #71 on: September 23, 2011, 16:42 »
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...or have rich parents who'll do anything for their kids.

(..but I'm not bitter...  :D)

2nd hand camera, a couple of lenses, return plane tickets, 2 weeks food & accomodation - certainly a lot cheaper than supporting them through three years of university :) and they get the travel etc sounds like a great deal to me :D

personally the 2 week boot camp on its own would be interesting, when you consider the cost of photo workshops etc. the reality tv bit is a turn off though
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« Reply #72 on: September 24, 2011, 17:08 »
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Hi Yuri,

 All the best to you and your new venture.  Some people are asking if you will make money off this endeavor but isn't that how our system already works?  Schools make money they are a business and their teachers and staff get paid. The student hopes to achieve the ability to take that knowledge and apply it over their own career. Art Center in Pasadena will set you back six figures, is that wrong? They also have the highest placement for high end well paid photographers compared to any other school available, maybe you get what you pay for sometimes. If I was younger and just starting out I would so be all over this kind of opportunity, to learn from the best in a structured environment with real hands on application, marvelous.
 Leaf I feel made a great post as well as Mat both supportive of your efforts to increase your business model.  Once again all the best to you and your future and to the lucky 15 that get the job. I think that will be your most important part of the project, finding the true 15 that have that X factor and can apply what you show them and even take it to another level. I will be watching out for updates please keep us informed of the growth.

All the best,
Jonathan

« Reply #73 on: October 14, 2011, 04:59 »
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Hi Guys,

I work for Yuri Arcurs Cape Town. There is nowhere is South Africa that you can study photography for free, this is an amazing opportunity for many South Africans who cannot afford to study anywhere. You only need a professional camera for 2 weeks (you could hire/borrow one). Yuri is also sponsoring the use of 10 of his camera's to people who cannot afford their own. During the training we will provide you with everything you need. The mp limit has also been reduced to 10mp.

It also says "potentially being part of a TV production", we are still deciding if we want to go forth with this so we will not be making millions from a tv show that focuses on drama. Yuri is looking to train the future photographers for his company not find a new means of income.

If anyone wants to apply or has questions, they can email me on newbielink:mailto:[email protected] [nonactive]

« Reply #74 on: October 14, 2011, 05:06 »
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Yuri is also sponsoring the use of 10 of his camera's to people who cannot afford their own

a Yuri camera, jeez now I am in, cannot wait to hold the number 1 camera, they have some kind of tag? like instead of Nikon a Yuri logo?

booking my flight :)

helix7

« Reply #75 on: October 16, 2011, 09:56 »
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I always wondered what his exit strategy was. Maybe this is part of it. Build a team of people to take over his day-to-day shooting duties, travel responsibilities, etc. Then he can do a mini-retirement, take some time off while allowing the Arcurs machine to keep humming along.

« Reply #76 on: October 16, 2011, 22:39 »
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Substitue the name Simon Cowell for Yuri and you can figure how this will pan out :)


« Reply #77 on: October 17, 2011, 11:26 »
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 Hi All,

 This is not new in stock. Check out people like Ron Chapple and Jim Erickson, they have both been training photographers and having them shoot their stock for years. There are several that do this very successfully.

Best,
Jonathan

rubyroo

« Reply #78 on: October 17, 2011, 11:27 »
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Oh no, I can't see Yuri strutting around in Cowell-style high-waisted trousers.  More likely specialised "cargo pants" with an extra long monopod pocket  ;)


 

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