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Microstock Footage Forum => General - Stock Video => Topic started by: Rage on July 12, 2016, 06:42
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Hey everyone, started stock video some time back. Have been shooting 4K shots using a phone. The cam file usually is about 150MB for a 20sec 4k shot. However converting it to .mov using H264 seems to bloat this to 300+MB. Is there a way to reduce the size, since a smaller size will allow me to upload many more clips per day.
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300 MB for a 20 second 4K clip is tiny, your bit rate off a phone is probably so low that you end up with banding and macroblocking from hell.
Are you sure that you want to compress your clips any further...?
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300 MB for a 20 second 4K clip is tiny, your bit rate off a phone is probably so low that you end up with banding and macroblocking from hell.
Are you sure that you want to compress your clips any further...?
Right!
I have hard time keeping my 4K clips under 2GB ;D (although most of mine have an average of ~40s)
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300 MB for a 20 second 4K clip is tiny, your bit rate off a phone is probably so low that you end up with banding and macroblocking from hell.
Are you sure that you want to compress your clips any further...?
Right!
I have hard time keeping my 4K clips under 2GB ;D (although most of mine have an average of ~40s)
You must me shooting/editing in ProRes :)
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300 MB for a 20 second 4K clip is tiny, your bit rate off a phone is probably so low that you end up with banding and macroblocking from hell.
Are you sure that you want to compress your clips any further...?
Right!
I have hard time keeping my 4K clips under 2GB ;D (although most of mine have an average of ~40s)
You must me shooting/editing in ProRes :)
No, 4K is made @ H264, max quality.
ProRes or PhotoJPEG would give me 7-8GB for the same clip length, at max quality.
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Seems to be to little. 1 - 2GB would be normal IMHO (PhotoJPG/ProRes 422)
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300 MB for a 20 second 4K clip is tiny, your bit rate off a phone is probably so low that you end up with banding and macroblocking from hell.
Are you sure that you want to compress your clips any further...?
Right!
I have hard time keeping my 4K clips under 2GB ;D (although most of mine have an average of ~40s)
You must me shooting/editing in ProRes :)
No, 4K is made @ H264, max quality.
ProRes or PhotoJPEG would give me 7-8GB for the same clip length, at max quality.
That big will never be accepted by all stock sites... :) I wondered if the same clip in ProRes looks more attractive to potential buyer since many buy for future color correction to fit in their project.
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Wow, that's crazy. Thats almost the size of a full movie on those rental discs.
Guess i should be happy with my 300MB files then
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300 MB for a 20 second 4K clip is tiny, your bit rate off a phone is probably so low that you end up with banding and macroblocking from hell.
Are you sure that you want to compress your clips any further...?
Right!
I have hard time keeping my 4K clips under 2GB ;D (although most of mine have an average of ~40s)
You must me shooting/editing in ProRes :)
No, 4K is made @ H264, max quality.
ProRes or PhotoJPEG would give me 7-8GB for the same clip length, at max quality.
That big will never be accepted by all stock sites... :) I wondered if the same clip in ProRes looks more attractive to potential buyer since many buy for future color correction to fit in their project.
I think what Zero Talent is saying is merely that if he outputs at those settings he would get that kind of file size. He's right. I do the same and I get lots of giggles. But I only set my quality to high and not max to comply with size requirements of the agencies and I get about 1.5 giggles with Pro Res. Zero Talent might also contribute to non-micro agencies who have a much wider breadth of clip freedom, or requirements, for quality. But only Mr. Talent can answer that.
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Wow, that's crazy. Thats almost the size of a full movie on those rental discs.
Guess i should be happy with my 300MB files then
:)
As far as I know file size is subject of fine details quantity so you are shooting some minimalistic scene that would be OK.
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Wow, that's crazy. Thats almost the size of a full movie on those rental discs.
Guess i should be happy with my 300MB files then
:)
As far as I know file size is subject of fine details quantity so you are shooting some minimalistic scene that would be OK.
Nope, mostly editorial type stuff out on the streets.
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300 MB for a 20 second 4K clip is tiny, your bit rate off a phone is probably so low that you end up with banding and macroblocking from hell.
Are you sure that you want to compress your clips any further...?
Right!
I have hard time keeping my 4K clips under 2GB ;D (although most of mine have an average of ~40s)
You must me shooting/editing in ProRes :)
No, 4K is made @ H264, max quality.
ProRes or PhotoJPEG would give me 7-8GB for the same clip length, at max quality.
That big will never be accepted by all stock sites... :) I wondered if the same clip in ProRes looks more attractive to potential buyer since many buy for future color correction to fit in their project.
I think what Zero Talent is saying is merely that if he outputs at those settings he would get that kind of file size. He's right. I do the same and I get lots of giggles. But I only set my quality to high and not max to comply with size requirements of the agencies and I get about 1.5 giggles with Pro Res. Zero Talent might also contribute to non-micro agencies who have a much wider breadth of clip freedom, or requirements, for quality. But only Mr. Talent can answer that.
You are right, Mr. Mantis ;) I don't submit 7-8GB clips.
If I want to stay below 2GB without trimming the 4K clip, H264 max quality seems to be a better choice than ProRes/PhotoJPEG with a heavy quality reduction. I'm talking about 4096 x 2304 4K, not UHD or other variant.
On the other hand, if anyone needs max quality, I also create HD ProRes or PhotoJPEG @ 100%, which usually stays below 2GB, for the same clip duration (~40s)
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The sheer amount of bandwidth needed to upload these clips is amazing :D