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« on: February 01, 2017, 02:05 »
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I try to put a lot of effort into most of my footage, creating the highest quality possible because any garbage clip ive ever shot never sells. With that said, I found a fella with 39,000+ clips on pond 5 which doesnt impress me from the stuff i've seen. Do you think it's possible to make much money with such a gigantic catalog? https://www.pond5.com/artist/weathernews#1/2063


« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2017, 02:48 »
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I would say he makes a good living out of stock. Huge amount of work has gone into producing 39000 weather/environmental clips, which is a very relevant subject area I'd say.

« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2017, 05:38 »
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I think he earns good amount of money.. I saw his clips many times when I visited P5 resources page>best this month

« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2017, 06:20 »
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Actually It's one of the most interesting footage portfolios I've ever seen.

« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2017, 06:29 »
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He is very active at the P5 forums so you can go there are read all about it.

I would say 39,000 of those clips would equal 1,000 corporate style/commercial people clips. So, lots and lots of work but at 39,000 you can make a living.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2017, 08:11 by increasingdifficulty »

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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2017, 06:56 »
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I make a maximum of $334 a month from 135 files. So if he sells the same as me per clip, then he might be making $1,157,000 a year. And even if he sells ten times less than me... he's still getting $115,700 a year. Not too shabby!

« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2017, 07:40 »
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I guess its time to switch to videos :D

EDIT: Wait, in video clips isnt property also protected, I see brands of cars, plates etc...
Or he submit it as editorial?
« Last Edit: February 01, 2017, 07:43 by nadalbg »

« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2017, 08:13 »
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I make a maximum of $334 a month from 135 files. So if he sells the same as me per clip, then he might be making $1,157,000 a year. And even if he sells ten times less than me... he's still getting $115,700 a year. Not too shabby!

Read the P5 forums. He doesn't come close. Not at P5 at least. He seems to have many days without any sales at all. But in total (VB, Fotolia etc.) I'm sure he's somewhat comfortable.

Just imagine the time spent to get to 39,000 though...

« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2017, 08:13 »
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I guess its time to switch to videos :D

EDIT: Wait, in video clips isnt property also protected, I see brands of cars, plates etc...
Or he submit it as editorial?

Same rules as images of course. Yes, most are editorial. News, documentaries etc. You don't use stormy weather clips as much in commercials...

« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2017, 08:27 »
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the lesson everything learnt micro stock u can upload everything and earn...don-t be too picky...i upload everything even those file that are made for garbage of my mac...and u know i see sign of increasing download day after day....i never considered video but i-m beginning too. i have many drone footage to upload....i never considered those sellable but i-m too picky and hard with my work, considered the kind of footage sold in pond 5

« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2017, 08:57 »
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the lesson everything learnt micro stock u can upload everything and earn...don-t be too picky...i upload everything even those file that are made for garbage of my mac...and u know i see sign of increasing download day after day....i never considered video but i-m beginning too. i have many drone footage to upload....i never considered those sellable but i-m too picky and hard with my work, considered the kind of footage sold in pond 5

Will some cheap camera for 1000$ be good for microstock videos, I am not willing to invest 6000$ into the better models?

« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2017, 09:02 »
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the lesson everything learnt micro stock u can upload everything and earn...don-t be too picky...i upload everything even those file that are made for garbage of my mac...and u know i see sign of increasing download day after day....i never considered video but i-m beginning too. i have many drone footage to upload....i never considered those sellable but i-m too picky and hard with my work, considered the kind of footage sold in pond 5

Will some cheap camera for 1000$ be good for microstock videos, I am not willing to invest 6000$ into the better models?

anything will be good. i don't think right now anybody in micro sock agency cares about quality.
1000 you can buy a used gh4. adapt or buy some lens is cheap. save for a video tripod and monopod...go out of home and shoot everything, from dog pet cat to car...in one day you can do if you live in big city 10000 clip of 10 second and if correct earn money...think also everybody will do this so we reach 1 billion video in less than 5 months.

« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2017, 09:16 »
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the lesson everything learnt micro stock u can upload everything and earn...don-t be too picky...i upload everything even those file that are made for garbage of my mac...and u know i see sign of increasing download day after day....i never considered video but i-m beginning too. i have many drone footage to upload....i never considered those sellable but i-m too picky and hard with my work, considered the kind of footage sold in pond 5

Will some cheap camera for 1000$ be good for microstock videos, I am not willing to invest 6000$ into the better models?

anything will be good. i don't think right now anybody in micro sock agency cares about quality.
1000 you can buy a used gh4. adapt or buy some lens is cheap. save for a video tripod and monopod...go out of home and shoot everything, from dog pet cat to car...in one day you can do if you live in big city 10000 clip of 10 second and if correct earn money...think also everybody will do this so we reach 1 billion video in less than 5 months.

I live in city of 40 000 but I travel to Jakarta regulary, there is a lot of material there, floodings, traffic, street food sellers, misery, skyscrapers, whatever you want, its there.

« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2017, 10:38 »
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...if he sells ten times less than me... he's still getting $115,700 a year. Not too shabby!

You don't need 39,000+ videos to make $115K per year.

« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2017, 11:11 »
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He has sold 4 clips at Pond5 this last week for a total of $400 commission. He is also in the membership program where I have no idea how much you can sell for...

Anyway, let's do some quick math here - 16 regular sales per month on 39,000 clips is, well, quite low.

My guess is around $2-3,000 per month from Pond5. Then maybe around as much from the other agencies combined. Let's say $7,000 per month.

Definitely decent money but the return per clip isn't something to write home about...

There seems to be 15-20 near duplicates of many of the clips which means that the actual number of unique clips is probably closer to 2,500-4,000.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2017, 11:13 by increasingdifficulty »

« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2017, 11:16 »
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Where do you see how much he has sold ?

« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2017, 11:18 »
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Artist resources at P5. He prices everything at $199/200 so if he sells a clip it shows up in the list.

And before anyone asks, I also know that he only sold those clips once each, since I am also in that list and know how much you have to sell to be placed there in certain positions.

So, to sum up:

Is he making money? Yes.

Is he making good money compared to the size of his portfolio? No.

Skyworksrf, Ailaimages, viafilms, hotelfoxtrot etc. are the ones actually making lots of money from footage at Pond5.

I remember reading in an interview that hotelfoxtrot often makes around $20-30,000 or so from Pond5 per month. But she also spends $1,000 or so for the production of a handful of clips (NYC aerials for example, helicopter, RED camera, etc.).
« Last Edit: February 01, 2017, 11:30 by increasingdifficulty »

« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2017, 11:49 »
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Artist resources at P5. He prices everything at $199/200 so if he sells a clip it shows up in the list.

And before anyone asks, I also know that he only sold those clips once each, since I am also in that list and know how much you have to sell to be placed there in certain positions.

So, to sum up:

Is he making money? Yes.

Is he making good money compared to the size of his portfolio? No.

Skyworksrf, Ailaimages, viafilms, hotelfoxtrot etc. are the ones actually making lots of money from footage at Pond5.

I remember reading in an interview that hotelfoxtrot often makes around $20-30,000 or so from Pond5 per month. But she also spends $1,000 or so for the production of a handful of clips (NYC aerials for example, helicopter, RED camera, etc.).

look  good money...but every video clip be sure cost a lot of money...professional model scout location red camera....the first guy probably don't pay nothing for footage just a camera. so it's all about return. sure she's producing quality stuff.

« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2017, 11:51 »
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I think her videos costa lot to produce, probably she spends 50% of the money on producment but its still good, considering the job is fun, its not like to work in office.

Do you have idea if nature and travel videos sell good? I'm able to visit a lot of unique places in the tropics.

« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2017, 11:51 »
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Artist resources at P5. He prices everything at $199/200 so if he sells a clip it shows up in the list.

And before anyone asks, I also know that he only sold those clips once each, since I am also in that list and know how much you have to sell to be placed there in certain positions.

So, to sum up:

Is he making money? Yes.

Is he making good money compared to the size of his portfolio? No.

Skyworksrf, Ailaimages, viafilms, hotelfoxtrot etc. are the ones actually making lots of money from footage at Pond5.

I remember reading in an interview that hotelfoxtrot often makes around $20-30,000 or so from Pond5 per month. But she also spends $1,000 or so for the production of a handful of clips (NYC aerials for example, helicopter, RED camera, etc.).

anyway if we look at numbers 20 k with 55000 quality video clip looks like 0,5 dollar per clip at month....well not a great rpc....even for a producer of super clips....so everything returns to the same point...quantity is the real force of micro stock, without giant number of production you can have alla the quality stuff but earning will be low.

« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2017, 11:54 »
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I think her videos costa lot to produce, probably she spends 50% of the money on producment but its still good, considering the job is fun, its not like to work in office.

Do you have idea if nature and travel videos sell good? I'm able to visit a lot of unique places in the tropics.

well it needs a lot of works..sure is not office but in my opinion it's fun sometimes but a lot of stress production, personally i worked very low in the last 10 years....travel a lot enjoy my time....this woman in 5 years produced 55000 clips...probably she worked 12 hours day saturday sunday included. she's a business producer...everything is organized. i quit my day job 10 years ago to be free.

« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2017, 11:56 »
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anyway if we look at numbers 20 k with 55000 quality video clip looks like 0,5 dollar per clip at month....well not a great rpc....even for a producer of super clips....so everything returns to the same point...quantity is the real force of micro stock, without giant number of production you can have alla the quality stuff but earning will be low.

Well, I think her total is probably closer to $60-80,000 per month from all sites. Her clips are in the top on most sites. So maybe $1.5 per clip per month is a realistic figure.

Still not that great since I get around $2 per clip per month and I don't have anything in the corporate/people/aerial categories at all!

« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2017, 11:58 »
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https://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/22561917/happy-diverse-group-business-people-isolated-white.html

take a clip like this....how much u think it will cost?

at least 1500 pound.

« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2017, 12:00 »
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anyway if we look at numbers 20 k with 55000 quality video clip looks like 0,5 dollar per clip at month....well not a great rpc....even for a producer of super clips....so everything returns to the same point...quantity is the real force of micro stock, without giant number of production you can have alla the quality stuff but earning will be low.

Well, I think her total is probably closer to $60-80,000 per month from all sites. Her clips are in the top on most sites. So maybe $1.5 per clip per month is a realistic figure.

Still not that great since I get around $2 per clip per month and I don't have anything in the corporate/people/aerial categories at all!

well lot of money they seems...1000000 dollar year? personally i knew i should began video and this year i will...i have 4 drone:)) only used for photos never sold a video;((
yes i agree....th last video witht 30 professional model....how much she spend to produce this? one day of work not less than 5000 pound. this are production that look made for advertisement not micro stock...
she make 1 million but all those clips not costed less than million to  be done. only the helicopter stuff...cost 300 dollar 15 minutes...

« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2017, 12:02 »
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